Ex-Player Watch Player Watch: Mousa Dembele

[Hazelton]

If we sell Dembele and replace him with Andre Gomes, I will lose my shit.

 

[thelak]

Incredible reading comments about him moving on by some fans after one bad game - a couple of months ago no doubt the same guys were fapping over him when he was dominating in the league and CL - we have some fickle / awful fans

Dembele is quality - had an off day vs Utd but offers a huge amount still

 

[thelak]

Got to disagree with you on this, I think he was poor throughout. Obviously there was the error for the first goal, but even after that I remember him losing out to Pogba a few times, and one time when he tripped over the ball on the edge of their box and gave away a counter.

Also - where was he when Herrera scored? I don't know who was meant to be tracking him, so it may not be Dembele's fault, but he was left completely unmarked while Davies focused on Lingard.

As you say you have absolutely no idea who was meant to be marking Herrera but then have a go at Dembele....probably should have re read the post and deleted it if you don’t know who was on marking duties!

 

[Sophos151]

As you say you have absolutely no idea who was meant to be marking Herrera but then have a go at Dembele....probably should have re read the post and deleted it if you don’t know who was on marking duties!

Well Herrera was playing as United's right-central midfielder, so I think our left-central midfielder (Dembele) should have been marking him. I said I don't know who was meant to be tracking him as I could be wrong, but included that bit about Dembele because I think Herrera was his man.

 

[LeParisien]

As you say you have absolutely no idea who was meant to be marking Herrera but then have a go at Dembele....probably should have re read the post and deleted it if you don’t know who was on marking duties!

I know that if tracking back on the counter, you don’t lose a man like that. In effect his role in defending was to jog back far too slowly.

 

[Wheeler Dealer]

We should never pro actively look to sell Dembele. If he decides after the World Cup he doesn't wish to extend contract, then that is fine, but if he wants to stay, we should do everything in our powers to make this happen

 

[nicdic]

We should never pro actively look to sell Dembele. If he decides after the World Cup he doesn't wish to extend contract, then that is fine, but if he wants to stay, we should do everything in our powers to make this happen

I think the issue is that he doesn't want to stay. At least in the sense that he doesn't think he's fit enough or strong enough to play regularly enough now.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

We should never pro actively look to sell Dembele. If he decides after the World Cup he doesn't wish to extend contract, then that is fine, but if he wants to stay, we should do everything in our powers to make this happen

He contributes nothing. Fuck all. No goals, no assists, nothing. Yes, on his day he's a fantastic player and it's easy on the eye watching him do his little turn thing (that Parker used to get lampooned for) or ghosting past a player, but those days aren't very frequent. He used to shift the ball quickly, not so much any more, he literally sucks a hole into the team and if we want to improve the actual starting eleven then his place would be better taken by someone whose figures in the goals and assists column isn't a big fat zilch.

If we want to reach this mythical next level people bang on about then some good players are going to have to go. It's a shame but for me, he's one of them, if he scored a few goals and added assists to his game he'd be an amazing player, but 12 goals and 12 assists in 232 EPL games is fucking poor whichever way you slice it.

And this is from me, who hates knocking our players

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

Wow. That'll put the cat amongst the pigeons

 

[Wheeler Dealer]

He contributes nothing. Fuck all. No goals, no assists, nothing. Yes, on his day he's a fantastic player and it's easy on the eye watching him do his little turn thing (that Parker used to get lampooned for) or ghosting past a player, but those days aren't very frequent. He used to shift the ball quickly, not so much any more, he literally sucks a hole into the team and if we want to improve the actual starting eleven then his place would be better taken by someone whose figures in the goals and assists column isn't a big fat zilch.

If we want to reach this mythical next level people bang on about then good players are going to have to go. It's a shame but for me, he's one of them, if he scored a few goals and added assists to his game he'd be an amazing player, but 12 goals and 12 assists in 232 EPL games is fucking poor whichever way you slice it.

And this is from me, who hates knocking our players

You could also label Kante in this bracket, and I would guess if he came here, you're be the first to comment on what a great addition that will be..

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

You could also label Kante in this bracket, and I would guess if he came here, you're be the first to comment on what a great addition that will be..

Then you’d be guessing wrong then wouldn’t you.

 

[spursfan77]

He contributes nothing. Fuck all. No goals, no assists, nothing. Yes, on his day he's a fantastic player and it's easy on the eye watching him do his little turn thing (that Parker used to get lampooned for) or ghosting past a player, but those days aren't very frequent. He used to shift the ball quickly, not so much any more, he literally sucks a hole into the team and if we want to improve the actual starting eleven then his place would be better taken by someone whose figures in the goals and assists column isn't a big fat zilch.

If we want to reach this mythical next level people bang on about then good players are going to have to go. It's a shame but for me, he's one of them, if he scored a few goals and added assists to his game he'd be an amazing player, but 12 goals and 12 assists in 232 EPL games is fucking poor whichever way you slice it.

And this is from me, who hates knocking our players

You missed out, when he’s fit (or 100% fit).

 

[Shadydan]

He contributes nothing. Fuck all. No goals, no assists, nothing. Yes, on his day he's a fantastic player and it's easy on the eye watching him do his little turn thing (that Parker used to get lampooned for) or ghosting past a player, but those days aren't very frequent. He used to shift the ball quickly, not so much any more, he literally sucks a hole into the team and if we want to improve the actual starting eleven then his place would be better taken by someone whose figures in the goals and assists column isn't a big fat zilch.

If we want to reach this mythical next level people bang on about then good players are going to have to go. It's a shame but for me, he's one of them, if he scored a few goals and added assists to his game he'd be an amazing player, but 12 goals and 12 assists in 232 EPL games is fucking poor whichever way you slice it.

And this is from me, who hates knocking our players

It's almost as if BC hacked your account and wrote this.

 

[CornerPinDreamer]

It's almost as if BC hacked your account and wrote this.

has anyone seen A&C and BC in the same place at the same time?

 

[Cravenspurs]

You could also label Kante in this bracket, and I would guess if he came here, you're be the first to comment on what a great addition that will be..

1) Kante is far superior defensively. Can’t even question that.

2) Kante is a better passer. Much quicker with the ball. More direct.

3) Kante has just as much burst from a dead stop, just not as much of a salsa dancer.

4) both use their physical makeup to keep the ball under pressure.

If we replaced Dembele with Kante I would be over the moon. Not exactly the type of player I am looking for, but god you can’t pass up the idea of a world class DM.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

You could also label Kante in this bracket, and I would guess if he came here, you're be the first to comment on what a great addition that will be..

Except Kanté is more of a busy ****, whose remit is more defensive, more about about snuffing out danger and winning the ball back. In our team that’s more the remit of Wanyama or Dier. Which emphasises the point, because even Kante makes more key passes and assists (per minute) than Dembele.

The problem isn’t just that Dembele doesn’t support the attack, rarely gets into the box, never scores or assists, it’s that he rarely assists the assist either. And in a team where the other CM in a 2cm system is Dier, it’s just not enough.

 

[mpickard2087]

Incredible reading comments about him moving on by some fans after one bad game - a couple of months ago no doubt the same guys were fapping over him when he was dominating in the league and CL - we have some fickle / awful fans

Dembele is quality - had an off day vs Utd but offers a huge amount still

It's not one bad game though is it? The first half of the season he had a slow start, some injuries, and was average at best. He had a very good fortnight a couple of months ago, and since then has contributed pretty much nothing.

Last weekend was a new low for him, given how immobile he was and that we had the likes of Eriksen having to do his running and drop back in to do his defensive work more and more as the game went on, but on the whole this season he hasn't really done much work to shout about.

 

[Hazelton]

We've been linked with Sergej Milinković-Savić and I still think he is the best realistic long-term replacement for Mousa. Otherwise, I think someone like Rafinha is worth a go. I still think Dembele has a lot to offer though and I am a big fan of his, he's probably my favourite Spurs player to watch and I was extremely surprised and disappointed by his performance against United. Regardless of whether we sign a replacement or simply add backup, we do need another option in his position though.

 

[Tottenham_God]

We've been linked with Sergej Milinković-Savić and I still think he is the best realistic long-term replacement for Mousa. Otherwise, I think someone like Rafinha is worth a go. I still think Dembele has a lot to offer though and I am a big fan of his, he's probably my favourite Spurs player to watch and I was extremely surprised and disappointed by his performance against United. Regardless of whether we sign a replacement or simply add backup, we do need another option in his position though.

He looks incredible.

On fm..

 

[King of the Lane]

Would love him but he would cost 80mill+ I reckon so cant see it myself