Player Watch Player Watch: Pedro Porro

[THFCSPURS19]

 

[Pekoni]

He’s got at least three more tweets to put out saying the same thing slightly differently before this does or doesn’t get done.

If Turkish Airlines is sponsoring his "here we go" tweets I wonder what company sponsors his "here we go soon" tweets.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Remember when we had Gunter, Corluka, Walker & naughton. We are about to do the same thing. Peculiar. Nobody wants to leave the club, it’s such a problem. We make it too comfortable for these players.

See the Juve Amazon AON docco, trust me if we want someone out then Paraitici won’t make it comfortable for them ? ? ??

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

That's more about Emerson's lack of roundedness as a player than anything IMO, his attacking abilities are far below the required standard. Emerson needs to play RB to mitigate his flaws, but even then you'll still be let down when he does join attacks.

Now Porro might be the same in terms of defensive ability currently but that is a lot more coachable. Trippier is playing RB in a 4 in the best defense in the league.

From the little I've seen of both I'd have more concerns over Udogie than Porro.

Agree with this mate.

?

We shall see how it goes, but if we can get it done Porro is an exciting player with far better attacking end product than Emerson so would bode well for rest of the season

 

[Cel]

Just like the reverse with Emerson RB & RWB are actually very different positions to play and have very different requirements. That’s not to say that no RB’s are able to play RWB and vice versa but if conte is going and we are getting a back 4 manager this summer then it’s a legitimate concern if we are spending £40+ mil on a specialist RWB, will/can he be effective as an attacking RB or is he only good as a RWB.

I do think a modern day FB attacks more than in the past though, so the skillset probably transfers easier RWB>FB - most sides that play 4 ATB, like Liverpool, allow the FBs to bomb on and a Fabinho-type drops in to make a 3 anyway. Poch did similar with Dier to free up Walker/Rose. It's not like in a 442 where they are there for defensive shape, in a 4-2-3-1, or 4-3-3, they are the width anyway.

 

[cider spurs]

Trent Alexander Arnold is far from the best in defence. Not too shabby going forward tho'.

Plays in Klopp's often utilised 433.

Just sayin'.

 

[The Scarecrow]

According to transfermarket his average position is RM. Do we have anyone on here who watches him regularly? How good is he at RB? With Conte unlikely to stay just trying to understand why we are still signing a player who appears perfect for RWB but odds are the next manager we appoint won't play with wingbacks

If you look at Emerson, it says the same. It's just Transfermarkt's definition of a 3-4-3, where the wing backs are defined as midfielders.

 

[vegassd]

Do you not think we’ve delayed triggering the release clause in order for Sporting to bring in their replacement? It’s very plausible we’ve worked to assist Sporting here.

I personally don't think we would have delayed triggering the clause just to assist them. What would be the benefit to that?

I would think it more likely we go in with these different deal structures early because that would give SL plenty of time to find a replacement... so it's a bit of a bargaining chip. This could certainly ring true if we were looking to cut the sell-on fee for Edwards or send a player in exchange for example.

What it seems like SL have done is to take notice of our interest and line up their replacement in preparation. It's still not ideal for them because that replacement will need to bed in etc. But it has meant they could stand firm on their price because they would be ready in case we did trigger the clause.

I know that a lot of people will just assume this is us haggling over a couple of million quid - and I'm sure that is a part of the delay - but if we are able to free up a squad place by sending a player back for example, I could see the merit in that. But if we were just trying to assist SL I don't think there would have been so many meetings taking place.

 

[the yid]

Trent Alexander Arnold is far from the best in defence. Not too shabby going forward tho'.

Plays in Klopp's often utilised 433.

Just sayin'.

Kyle Walker and Danny Rose we more Wing backs than full backs Poch just had a CM dropping in between the CBs when they bombed forward

 

[spursfan77]

We assume he’s coming in as a wingback but I wonder if he’ll also be used in the wing forward position hence why we are happy to loan out Gil?

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

I do think a modern day FB attacks more than in the past though, so the skillset probably transfers easier RWB>FB - most sides that play 4 ATB, like Liverpool, allow the FBs to bomb on and a Fabinho-type drops in to make a 3 anyway. Poch did similar with Dier to free up Walker/Rose. It's not like in a 442 where they are there for defensive shape, in a 4-2-3-1, or 4-3-3, they are the width anyway.

Agree that’s is true, it’s more just a question of how good are they defensively and how do they get used to a new position in a back 4, as you say if it’s a 4-2-3-1 with a CDM dropping in and FB’s pushing on then the positioning is similar but it’s still not exactly the same and teams will always need to drop back into a compact shape and when doing so it’s very different in a back 4 as the space you cover to defend is bigger and your CB mate isn’t as close to you as your RCB one is.

The modern game has changed but I find it interesting as I’ve played to a paid professional level at LWB but I’d have been an appalling LB ?

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

We assume he’s coming in as a wingback but I wonder if he’ll also be used in the wing forward position hence why we are happy to loan out Gil?

Doubt it ?‍ but you never know mate

 

[Cel]

Agree that’s is true, it’s more just a question of how good are they defensively and how do they get used to a new position in a back 4, as you say if it’s a 4-2-3-1 with a CDM dropping in and FB’s pushing on then the positioning is similar but it’s still not exactly the same and teams will always need to drop back into a compact shape and when doing so it’s very different in a back 4 as the space you cover to defend is bigger and your CB mate isn’t as close to you as your RCB one is.

The modern game has changed but I find it interesting as I’ve played to a paid professional level at LWB but I’d have been an appalling LB ?

Haha! Fair to say a lot of if's have to fall into place before it becomes an issue anyway, starting with actually signing

I guess some of it is down to the player too, right, so some will be more adaptable than others and comfortable with taking on different instructions etc, I guess it's not a one size fits all kind of issue?

 

[dirtyh]

can we just get this to 100 pages ffs?

 

[FrankSpencer]

Here’s the goal hanger..

 

[mil1lion]

If we signed him on Jan 1st we'd be top of the league by now FFS

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Haha! Fair to say a lot of if's have to fall into place before it becomes an issue anyway, starting with actually signing

I guess some of it is down to the player too, right, so some will be more adaptable than others and comfortable with taking on different instructions etc, I guess it's not a one size fits all kind of issue?

? mate ??

And as you say I suppose we need to sign him first and then we can worry about it ?? or hopefully not haha

He looks mustard for Sporting so would love to see the effect he has for us at RWB in this system

 

[TheWook]

If Turkish Airlines is sponsoring his "here we go" tweets I wonder what company sponsors his "here we go soon" tweets.

Fry's

 

[WeGotLedley]

Just like the reverse with Emerson RB & RWB are actually very different positions to play and have very different requirements. That’s not to say that no RB’s are able to play RWB and vice versa but if conte is going and we are getting a back 4 manager this summer then it’s a legitimate concern if we are spending £40+ mil on a specialist RWB, will/can he be effective as an attacking RB or is he only good as a RWB.

Feels like difference is now more are you playing RB with low block, so, with the ball, it's really more RWB (TAA, walker at spurs, trippier at toon, etc) or more where RB if anything cuts in field, bit like Woolwich are doing with saka/martinelli providing the width. For me, the former is becoming way more common. So means your RB needs pace, stamina to get up and down, and decent crossing / ability to interplay and create overloads.

In Fulham match felt kulu stayed wide and Emerson cut in a lot more (and looked way better, just in time for us to sell him ?)

But long short, i think porro, romero, New CB, Udogie, with bentancur/sarr, skipp/PEH, new AM/devine and son/kane/kulu would work well and gives a good base to build from. But I also Thought ndombele would take us to next level, so what do I know?!

 

[Lukasz]

So looks like we’ve sacrificed Zaniolo to gather funds for this guy…. He’d better be really good.