Player Watch Player Watch: Pedro Porro

[DJS]

Of fucking course not. I was thinking about players such as Sanchez, Rodon, Lo Celso, Ndombele, Sessegnon, Jack Clarke, Bergwijn, Sissoko, Doherty,

Spending 60+ mill on Richarlison when we needed defenders is also inept management.

And how many sporting directors and scouts in that time is another damning indictment of the incompetence at the club - don't know what point you are trying to make with that.

Spending 60 million on Richarlison was not inept management, as we’ve been crying out for years for centre forward cover for Kane and they don’t come cheap unfortunately.

Richarlison can also play wide, so was a good deal as far as I’m concerned.

Defence should also have been addressed, but not at the cost of centre forward cover.

You imagine the scenes on here if Kane had been out for a while and we hadn’t bought in another striker during summer!

 

[DFF]

So you think all transfers are paid up front? Levyonimics or whatever you said lol. Really not sure what the point is as every transfer is paid like this by every club

I know better than most, including yourself “lol”. Accounts roll over end of June. By delaying Porros transfer, we avoided taking a bigger additional burden on this year’s accounts, and pushed it into future years. It will be amortised at 8m/year, but starting later. The amortisation is completely separate from the payment schedule, which could be anything depending on what we negotiated with Sporting. Why do we need to keep doing deals this way, when we have the financial headroom now, I don’t know. All it’s doing is pushing the burden off further down the line and materially impacting business we can do in future. People want a rebuild, but not accounting for the fact that we will be buying Porro and Kulu this summer which is when we will really start paying for them.

 

[Bing]

I know better than most, including yourself “lol”. Accounts roll over end of June. By delaying Porros transfer, we avoided taking a bigger additional burden on this year’s accounts, and pushed it into future years. It will be amortised at 8m/year, but starting later. The amortisation is completely separate from the payment schedule, which could be anything depending on what we negotiated with Sporting. Why do we need to keep doing deals this way, when we have the financial headroom now, I don’t know.

If the club has the opportunity to defer a payment it is absolutely the right thing to do. I don't think there can be any debate about that. I think we are just looking for sticks to beat him with now.

 

[jonnyp]

Spending 60 million on Richarlison was not inept management, as we’ve been crying out for years for centre forward cover for Kane and they don’t come cheap unfortunately.

Richarlison can also play wide, so was a good deal as far as I’m concerned.

Defence should also have been addressed, but not at the cost of centre forward cover.

You imagine the scenes on here if Kane had been out for a while and we hadn’t bought in another striker during summer!

Agree to disagree then.

 

[DFF]

If the club has the opportunity to defer a payment it is absolutely the right thing to do. I don't think there can be any debate about that. I think we are just looking for sticks to beat him with now.

We can’t do it forever. Not every single deal we do can be a loan to buy, and therefore will materially impact deals we can in the future. For example, do you think having to purchase Porro and Kulu this summer will not impact our financial ability in the window one bit? You have to pay the piper at some point.

 

[chrisd2k]

We can’t do it forever. Not every single deal we do can be a loan to buy, and therefore will materially impact deals we can in the future. For example, do you think having to purchase Porro and Kulu this summer will not impact our financial ability in the window one bit? You have to pay the piper at some point.

Of course you do but again payments aren't all at once regardless if it's a loan or not. Of course the payment structure is whatever was negotiated at the time.

We are probably still paying for Tanguy and Gio, wouldn't be surprised if most of our squad has outstanding payments.

So I don't understand the problem of deferring payments despite you obviously knowing more than me.

 

[cliff jones]

I hope he’s practising keeping an eye on a pacey wide man making an out to in run in training this week

Has anyone seen fkin Rashford..?

 

[DFF]

Of course you do but again payments aren't all at once regardless if it's a loan or not. Of course the payment structure is whatever was negotiated at the time.

We are probably still paying for Tanguy and Gio, wouldn't be surprised if most of our squad has outstanding payments.

So I don't understand the problem of deferring payments despite you obviously knowing more than me.

Our accounts from over a year ago show the second highest EBITDA in the league behind Man City and 226m cash balance. This season will be even more due to CL football. So the problem is we have plenty of financial headroom each season that we are not using. By eating some of the burden on the current accounts, we give ourselves more flexibility in future windows/years. But by deferring signing these players we are hampering future ability in the transfer market. The only way it doesn’t is if every deal is a loan to buy and deferred to future windows, which they clearly won’t be. Every year we don’t come close to exercising our financial capacity is a wasted opportunity. When Levy mentions having to commit to buying Porro and Kulu in the summer as an excuse for why we didn’t do enough, maybe it will click.

 

[chrisd2k]

Our accounts from over a year ago show the second highest EBITDA in the league behind Man City and 226m cash balance. This season will be even more due to CL football. So the problem is we have plenty of financial headroom each season that we are not using. By eating some of the burden on the current accounts, we give ourselves more flexibility in future windows/years. But by deferring signing these players we are hampering future ability in the transfer market. The only way it doesn’t is if every deal is a loan to buy and deferred to future windows, which they clearly won’t be. Every year we don’t come close to exercising our financial capacity is a wasted opportunity. When Levy mentions having to commit to buying Porro and Kulu in the summer as an excuse for why we didn’t do enough, maybe it will click.

No I get it but you keep saying loan to buy but that's not what I'm saying at all. Anyway life is too short so I'll go back to doing whatever it is I do

 

[ikky]

I know hindsight is a wonderful thing but we would’ve been better off keeping Doc and pocketing the £40m. There’s no way Doc would’ve been as bad as him and knowing Conte was off in the summer that money could’ve been used elsewhere and giving a new manager the chance to look at Spence.
Having said that I agree it can’t be easy for him coming into this shit show and I hope he comes good next season ( which will be the proper time to judge him ).

 

[PrettyColors]

£40m for this mug is looking like the worst transfer of the January window, even with Mudryk flopping.

Followed by £60m for Richy being the worst transfer of the summer window.

Even Davinson Sanchez for £40m feels like better value.

edit: OK I was a bit out of my gourd here. I think he is a great offensive player to be fair.

 

[Shanks]

Because we are a joke mate.

levy in to finalise porro deal that apparently went south - absolute spin to make him look good, I’m positive of it, but doesn’t address what actually needs addressing - look at what the rivals are doing (can’t even say arsenal are rivals now, they are so far ahead of us it’s a joke).

top of the league and strengthen even more - we don’t do that, we sit and try not to spend

@DanielCHillier @chrissivad atill disagree with these posts about him not being what we needed

yes, I’m still fucked off, but honestly the dosagree’s that came out for stating this stuff were laughable at the time and even more so now

still maintain he is a decent player, but not what was needed

 

[Flobadob]

That finish is why people have faith he’ll come good.

 

[FinnYid]

That finish is why people have faith he’ll come good.

Doesn't matter if he costs goals on own end every game.

 

[Hotspur88]

£40m for this mug is looking like the worst transfer of the January window, even with Mudryk flopping.

Followed by £60m for Richy being the worst transfer of the summer window.

Even Davinson Sanchez for £40m feels like better value.

Don't write him off so soon, he was class for Sporting. Our whole squad is currently playing terribly so it's stupid to judge him.

Just give the lad time! People wrote Kulu off after 2 games and he was then brilliant for a long period. Kulu will be great again, just needs some confidence.

 

[Tottenhamboy85]

When will be learn to not judge the newer players on this season.

Porro been here four months and had 3 managers playing in a team that looks lost

 

[TPdYID]

That finish is why people have faith he’ll come good.

But ‘finishing’ isn’t the principal reason why we signed him.

 

[Flobadob]

But ‘finishing’ isn’t the principal reason why we signed him.

We bought him as an attacking wingback and his great technique is a big part of that

 

[TPdYID]

We bought him as an attacking wingback and his great technique is a big part of that

What have you seen, that I haven’t?

Whats been great?

 

[Tucker]

Think he’ll come good. Way too early to make a definitive judgement on him, especially given the chaos we’ve been in.