Poch needs to take a long hard look at himself.

[teok]

 

[gregga]

He needs to take a long hard look at himself in the mirror..... and fap.

 

[Shadydan]

The more I see this thread the funnier it gets.

 

[Gb160]

The more I see this thread the funnier it gets.

Its a fuckung beauty, the opening few lines are particularly funny:

We can sit here and blame the players but I think that would be too easy at this point, Poch seems to have granted himself lots of excuses because of last season but we seem to be massively regressing and fast.
There are a few reasons why I believe we are, the first is his absolute persistence with Wanyama in midfield

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

The more I see this thread the funnier it gets.

Hilarious innit. Among the usual short sighted whinges and moans there are some weird, wonderful and quite frankly ridiculous theories on why we weren't blowing every team away.

When, in fact, as every other level fan realised, the real reason we had a rocky patch is because we had a number of injuries, suspensions and loss of form to many of our key players. And low in behold, now the majority of our players are fit, we've started picking up form again.

 

[HildoSpur]

It is clear he has lost the dressing room - his house must be massive. Perhaps if he ever finds it again he may find Yankspurs hiding in it.

 

[tiger666]

we seem to be massively regressing and fast.

There are a few reasons why I believe we are, the first is his absolute persistence with Wanyama in midfield, don't get me wrong, Wanyama is a tidy player, I like him, however we have basically taken away what was working last season for no apparent reason other than to force Wanyama in the side. Tactically it has made us more predictable, less offensive, it is congesting our central midfield and suffocating our attacking play, Poch needs to remove his favouritism and stop being stubborn, that was the very thing that got AVB sacked.

Well said that man!

 

[L-man]

I understand why people want to defend Pochettino, but look the players body language... They don't even yell to each other. Look Monaco's second half set piece chance when Glikik (something like that) got that clear chance... Lloris just rolling his eyes, when he should be really angry... Doesn't even open his mounth, he had good game but he's Spurs captain so I have to say I'm not impressed with his leading skills... And I noticed similar (not yelling) things weeks ago, so it's not just one game.

Pochettino has clearly lost the dressing room. We all know what is going to happen.

Oh, and yes. I fucking hate that ****. Never liked him, but now after this UCL knockout he should be sacked in the morning. I know Levy won't sack him right now, but I fucking sure he's not going to be our manager next season.

Five fucking years we waited to be in UCL. Then this happens.

Bizarre

 

[Shanks]

What I don't get.. is in our so called bad period, we didn't actually lose a league game, just drew a bunch.

I do love this place sometimes, its like the gift that keeps giving

 

[Hazardousman]

Well said that man!

Yeah, honestly you can basically ignore everything I said at this point in time, I have basically eaten a nice humble pie, it tastes good in all honesty.

I mean to be fair when I made this we had just crashed out of the CL with a whimper and we weren't looking like we could turn around our form, I guess it stemmed from a fear of last season just being a one off and now all the bigger teams are back to performing again we would drop off etc.

Well I am happy to say my fear has been squashed, we look like the real deal, I never advocated Poch being sacked however, I just wanted improvement and actually, I think despite our little bad patch we are better than last year.

Last night was the most mature performance I have seen from this side, it's like everything came together at once, will there be more downs? Sure, I am positive of that but NOW I know deep down that this team is always capable of turning it around and maybe I should have a little more faith in Poch going forward.

That doesn't mean I won't criticise him if I think he gets things wrong but it does mean that next time we have a bad spell that deep down I won't be worried it will be something that will completely derail us, I suppose the latter could be because being 32 and watching spurs my entire life I have programmed myself to believe we are always one fuck up away from it all unravelling.

But after last night my mentality changed, I don't know what it was but that performance last night made me truly believe these players are capable of winning silverware.

Let's hope we continue it against West Brom because to me that is a game we normally fail in, especially after a big result like Chelsea, I don't think we will this time though, I think we will do em.

 

[Everlasting Seconds]

Well done Pochettino, resurrecting this PL campaign. Simple as that.
Now please don't do the ineffective, outdated and boring 4231 ever again.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

Well done Pochettino, resurrecting this PL campaign. Simple as that.

What needed resurrecting was some people's faith in our manager and team. The speed with which that was dropped was pretty poor really*.............IMO we were never out of the race for a top 4 spot.

*and it'll happen again, two bad results and they'll be back. Two bad results.

 

[Xeeleeyid]

What needed resurrecting was some people's faith in our manager and team. The speed with which that was dropped was pretty poor really*.............We were never out of the race for a top 4 spot.

*and it'll happen again, two bad results and they'll be back. Two bad results.

Two bad results? The first time we lose 1-0 away to a tough opponent with a last minute dodgy goal to them, all the wankstains will be out with their analysis of how it was obvious when they saw the line-up that we were going to lose and that if Poch wasn't so tactically inflexible and had in fact followed their successful formation employed in FM 2017 we would have stuffed them 7-0 and if Levy hadn't have signed Sissoko we would probably have been 10 points clear and by the way, they always thought Eriksen was overrated and this game proved that he is

 

[Everlasting Seconds]

What needed resurrecting was some people's faith in our manager and team. The speed with which that was dropped was pretty poor really*.............IMO we were never out of the race for a top 4 spot.

*and it'll happen again, two bad results and they'll be back. Two bad results.

I agree with you, I don't think I ever stated that I thought we were out of top 4 either.
What I do think we did do, for a long period, was losing our way a bit. I genuinely think we played crap football for several months (at least two months). And I hate crap football. Even more than that, I hate crap Pochettino football.
However, credit where credit is due. Now, we look like a top 4 team again. And I love every time we brave a change in the formation. Ironically, as in tune with the thread title, maybe Pochettino did take long hard look at him self and came out on top. Kudos to him.

 

[tiger666]

Well done Pochettino, resurrecting this PL campaign. Simple as that.
Now please don't do the ineffective, outdated and boring 4231 ever again.

After the tactical masterclass yesterday, I think he can be trusted to put out whatever formation he believes will get results. You can't just simply rule out a formation. 4-2-3-1 is certainly not outdated and boring either. That just highlights your lack of tactical understanding.

 

[Everlasting Seconds]

After the tactical masterclass yesterday, I think he can be trusted to put out whatever formation he believes will get results. You can't just simply rule out a formation.

Yes I can, watch me:
4231 is not the most effective formation for our squad, and should firmly be sidetracked.

 

[tiger666]

Yes I can, watch me:
4231 is not the most effective formation for our squad, and should firmly be sidetracked.

Then you clearly know more than Poch.

 

[LexingtonSpurs]

Yes I can, watch me:
4231 is not the most effective formation for our squad, and should firmly be sidetracked.

All depends on who is available for selection.

But, as Poch has said repeatedly over the last few weeks - don't get caught up in formation, and focus on movement and shape.

 

[Everlasting Seconds]

All depends on who is available for selection.

But, as Poch has said repeatedly over the last few weeks - don't get caught up in formation, and focus on movement and shape.

I am caught up in it, because I firmly believe, and have believed for a long time, that there is a pattern between our best and worst matches, and when we have or haven't reverted to the crap-crap-crap system.

 

[MichaelPawson]

Poch's tactical flexibility this year shows me that while he may not be the finished article yet, there is indeed a ceiling that is higher than where he's at now. I always thought that managers should be viewed similarly to players in terms of their career arc. They start off raw but learn very quickly, then transition into their prime, then fall off a bit as they run out of energy or as their soccer knowledge becomes retrograde. Poch obviously had experience managing before he joined Spurs, but in an overall sense, he's still pretty young, and he's very enthusiastic about his craft. We should expect more mistakes from him in the future, or even for general problems to surface that he will need to address to become a more complete practitioner of his craft; however, assuming we can do better than him currently is as silly as thinking we should get rid of Dele because someone else might come along.

Besides, even though we are in a title race now (sort of) and were last year as well, this is still a team that is built for the future. If we get a trophy this season? Excellent. The team is absolutely capable of it, too. But if not? Then Poch and the team get to evolve a little bit more, and they can have another crack at it as wiser and tougher competitors. Between ages, attitudes, and contract situations, this team is one for both the present and the future. Why shouldn't the manager fit this description as well?