Qatar 2022

[Danners9]

What's the deal with posting images?

Anyway, this: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BpDU0ZVCQAEj0Ko.jpg

 

[AussieSpurMan]

Bin Hammam is a stain on world football. Always has been and always will be.
As for it should go to the US as an Aussie i have to disagree.
Our FA after the vote realised (as this was the first time we had ever bid) that people lie! We were supposedly promised quite a few more votes than just the one from good old Franz we received. I guess we learnt something there.
But rest assured, we are ready now if needed. The Sydney Olympics are still considered the best organised ever.
We can put on a show!

 

[cwy21]

Australia can have it only if they promise to move their time zone 8 hours in either direction.

 

[beats1]

Interesting stuff! Iberia+Qatar = love
So 7 out of 7 Iberia voters also voted for Qatar.

The thing is that Spain had publicly backed the Qatar bid for exchange of their vote. The spanish have quiet a few links with Qatar. Like for example Pep Guardiola was a player there, Barcelona are sponsored by them, Rosell was said to pay off the Brazilian FA president

 

[ExpatFan]

The thing is that Spain had publicly backed the Qatar bid for exchange of their vote. The spanish have quiet a few links with Qatar. Like for example Pep Guardiola was a player there, Barcelona are sponsored by them, Rosell was said to pay off the Brazilian FA president

Sounds a bit like Cyprus and Greece at the Eurovision Song Contest!

 

[Yorkville Spur]

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:11019010
Check out this film on the Qatar World Cup. I don't care if they move it to the Maldives or if they cancel it altogether. If they don't move it I will do whatever I can (and I'm nobody so it won't be much) to get the US Soccer Federation to boycott it. Anyone participating in that Cup will be dancing on graves. Thank god for the comparatively very less evil world of club football. Give me Spurs over international football any day of the week.

 

[ExpatFan]

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:11019010
Check out this film on the Qatar World Cup. I don't care if they move it to the Maldives or if they cancel it altogether. If they don't move it I will do whatever I can (and I'm nobody so it won't be much) to get the US Soccer Federation to boycott it. Anyone participating in that Cup will be dancing on graves. Thank god for the comparatively very less evil world of club football. Give me Spurs over international football any day of the week.

Seen it all myself - first hand. But that doesn't detract from the powerful effect of this film.
As someone has said before in this thread, there should be a widespread boycott of the potential official sponsors. Money (including pay-offs, bungs and bribery) is all that Blatter and his cronies care about.

 

[Yorkville Spur]

Seen it all myself - first hand. But that doesn't detract from the powerful effect of this film.
As someone has said before in this thread, there should be a widespread boycott of the potential official sponsors. Money (including pay-offs, bungs and bribery) is all that Blatter and his cronies care about.

Do you find it as depressing as I do that the world seems more upset by the bribes than the virtual slavery and THOUSANDS of deaths?

 

[yawa]

The "investigation" is quite frankly a farce and I don't expect anything to come from it.

The investigation is due to finish on the 9th June and so clearly not enough time to investigate something this size. So qatar 2022 it is.

 

[beats1]

spanish claiming that platini allegation recently about getting qatar getting the world cup has the wrong date as it happened 3 months earlier and it wasn't about Qatar. However it was about how Platini and Bin Hammam would overthrow Sepp Blatter.

Sepp Blatter is alot of things, like naive, weak and etc. but he doesnt appear to be anywhere near as corrupt as Platini or worse than him

 

[LSUY]

The "investigation" is quite frankly a farce and I don't expect anything to come from it.

The investigation is due to finish on the 9th June and so clearly not enough time to investigate something this size. So qatar 2022 it is.

The investigation was always going to report very little wrongdoing simply because it's FIFA doing the investigation. There needs to be a body beyond the reach of FIFA, UEFA, etc., that can carry out independent investigations into corruption and whose rulings are enforced by the Court of Arbitration for Sport.

 

[tototoner]

Need a big federation like Germany or England to publicly say they will boycott a World Cup in Qatar

That will focus minds and sponsors

 

[ExpatFan]

spanish claiming that platini allegation recently about getting qatar getting the world cup has the wrong date as it happened 3 months earlier and it wasn't about Qatar. However it was about how Platini and Bin Hammam would overthrow Sepp Blatter.

Sepp Blatter is alot of things, like naive, weak and etc. but he doesnt appear to be anywhere near as corrupt as Platini or worse than him

I won't give you a "disagree" mark but I do so very much. Blatter is the worst of the worst but he's not known as "Mr Teflon" for nothing.

 

[tototoner]

spanish claiming that platini allegation recently about getting qatar getting the world cup has the wrong date as it happened 3 months earlier and it wasn't about Qatar. However it was about how Platini and Bin Hammam would overthrow Sepp Blatter.

Sepp Blatter is alot of things, like naive, weak and etc. but he doesnt appear to be anywhere near as corrupt as Platini or worse than him

Al Capone was less corrupt than Blatter

 

[RuskyM]

Not only does the main stadium they're going to use for the first game and the final not exist, THE CITY IT'S GOING TO BE IN DOESN'T EXIST EITHER.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lusail

Fuck it, let's host World Cups in more hypothetical places. #Mordor2026 #Narnia2030 #Vulcan2034

 

[RuskyM]

This is genuinely reading like dystopian fiction. Jesus christ. I'm typing this out as a way to understand it, because this can't be real.

• Qatar is both the smallest and least populated country to ever host a World Cup. It will also be the most expensive by a landslide.
• The World Cup will take place in twelve stadiums. Of these, only one actually exists right now (that one is going to be extended), and one of the main cities is entirely hypothetical at this point (and will cost £28bn). Only one of these was confirmed to be built if they didn't get the World Cup.
• The eleven stadiums that need to be built will cost overall £30bn, a fair bit of this will go to air conditioning to actually make the players sustain the heat & humidity (this means they will cost £2.7bn per stadium - in contrast, the Emirates Stadium cost £390m). £48bn will be spent on training facilities and accommodation. £31bn will be spent on transport. This is insane.
• On the 9th December 2010 (a week after Qatar won the bid), Blatter said if they needed to they could let countries surrounding them host a bit of the World Cup. Because why not.
• When discussing the heat that typically reaches 50 °C (122 °F), one doctor said "acclimatising to the Qatar heat is impossible". It is simply not safe from a health point of view. Qatar's solution: air conditioning EVERYTHING.

This is just the financial implications. Let's go to the frightening: human rights.

• The Qatar government frowns upon homosexuality, alcohol, and has poor attitudes towards women. Blatter does not seem phased by this.
• These megacities are being built by immigrants filed in from Nepal. Amnesty International reported that workers are having to sign false statements that they had received their wages in order to regain their passports. This is slavery.
• Workers may not change jobs or even leave the country without their sponsor's permission.
• Workers are dying at a rate of one-per-day. For a fucking football tournament.
• Workers say they were promised high wages, but once they came into the country the contracts were destroyed with their passports.
• WORKERS ARE DYING AT A RATE OF ONE-PER-DAY.

This World Cup is not going to happen. For moral, safety and most importantly to FIFA, financial reasons. Give it to any other country, please.

 

[LSUY]

This World Cup is not going to happen. For moral, safety and most importantly to FIFA, financial reasons. Give it to any other country, please.

There is little morality in modern football. As far as FIFA are concerned Qatar's money is more important than human rights, playing conditions, etc. The sponsors aren't going to boycott the tournament (I think FIFA's already negotiated with the Qatar government to relax alcohol laws during the World Cup in order to keep Budweiser happy) simply because the fans aren't going to boycott it. Millions will go to Qatar and billions will watch on TV. The Qatar World Cup shouldn't happen but it will.

 

[Tucker]

Need a big federation like Germany or England to publicly say they will boycott a World Cup in Qatar

That will focus minds and sponsors

FIFA wouldn't give a damn, it would need to be five or six big nations to even make a dent. Federations like Brazil, France, Italy, Spain, England and Germany. Maybe if they all boycotted it would have an effect. And it would only then have an effect because of the bad PR the sponsors would get.

 

[nidge]

People need to start boycotting sponsors as that's what will really hurt FIFA.

 

[Lufti]

The investigation was always going to report very little wrongdoing simply because it's FIFA doing the investigation. There needs to be a body beyond the reach of FIFA, UEFA, etc., that can carry out independent investigations into corruption and whose rulings are enforced by the Court of Arbitration for Sport.

I'm not sure you know. One on hand, FIFA wont want to publicly admit to wrongdoing, but, I think they're all aware (certainly now if they weren't before) that the world cup just wont work there and this whole thing could give them a chance to get out of it and fix the problem