Qatar 2022

[LSUY]

Seems Sir Dave Richards has spoken out of turn as a Premier League spokesman has come out and said the Premier League's opposition to a winter world cup remains unchanged.

Can't see the Premier League's stance changing unless they come under a lot of pressure or get something in return (e.g. support for overseas matches as UEFA & FIFA were the main opponents). A lot of the club's won't be happy with the loss of income that would result with having to suspend everything during December and January. Also it's going to cause chaos with the fixtures. Last December we had six league matches and a European match and in January four league matches and two FA Cup ties. Add the fact that you've got the League Cup quarter-finals and both legs of the semi-finals over the same period and I struggle to see how the 2021-22 season will work. You can't start the season much earlier as the gap between seasons isn't that large to begin with (CL and EL qualifying starts in July) and if you extend the season beyond May it's going to have a knock on effect on the following season.

Personally I hope they don't switch the World Cup to winter as I'd much rather spend my Christmas/New Year holiday watching Tottenham than the usual dull crap served up by England. For me, aside from the odd game, the last couple of World Cups haven't been that interesting. Also, if Qatar change it then what's the point of the bid proposals? Bidding nations might as well make up any old shit as they can change everything once they win the right to host.

 

[tototoner]

It has to change to the winter if it stays in Qatar for 2022. Impossible to play in the heat in Qatar in July.

The Premier League like all the other leagues in Europe will eventually accept this also.

As for England I didn't realise they had qualified already

 

[dk-yid]

Qatar 2022 is going to be a huge failure - whether winter or summer.

 

[tototoner]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22551872

Fifa president Sepp Blatter believes it is "not rational" to play the 2022 World Cup in the summer heat of Qatar, where temperatures can hit 50C.

Air-conditioned stadia have been planned, but the Swiss has expressed concerns about the implications for people outside the venues.

"The World Cup is more than just stadiums, it's an array of social and cultural activities,'' he said.
"What do we do? It's not rational and reasonable to play in June-July."

Blatter has given varying views on the issue. In January 2011 he said he expected a winter event, but back-tracked on that a month later.

In March, Fifa general secretary Jerome Valcke argued that the Qatar World Cup could be moved if medical reports highlighted related health risks.

"Whether it's the right choice, that's up to the executive committee," Blatter told French newspaper L'Equipe.
"The problem is knowing whether it can be played in June-July in Qatar."

The idea to move the competition away from its traditional time has previously been backed by Uefa leader Michel Platini and world footballers' union FIFPro.

It has been proposed that any decision to move to a northern hemisphere winter date should be made by 2015 in order to give national leagues and competitions around the world sufficient time to reorganise their calendars.

Qatar defeated bids from South Korea, Japan, Australia and the United States to win a ballot of Fifa's 22 executive members for the right to host the 2022 World Cup.

At the same ceremony in December 2010, Russia beat England and joints bids from Spain-Portugal and Netherlands-Belgium to host the 2018 event.

England's bid to host the tournament only attracted two votes.

Speaking about the 2022 vote, Blatter said voters were influenced by the pressure to take the World Cup to the Middle East for the first time.

He said: "There were interventions at different levels so that it would go to an Arab country. Geopolitics did its work."

He continued: "Before the awarding of a World Cup or Olympic Games, there is a meeting with the politicians. We had it here in Zurich.
"They influence the voters. England didn't get the 2018 World Cup and, ever since, there has been a cold war with Fifa.''

 

[dn013]

The very fact that people voted for Qatar 2022 is a travesty.

 

[riggi]

Im stopping in Qatar on my way to Kenya. Just thought id say.


Waits for kazzah's sarcy informative response....

 

[yawa]

Im stopping in Qatar on my way to Kenya. Just thought id say.


Waits for kazzah's sarcy informative response....

I've been to Doha a couple of times with work and its nice. Certainly less up its own arse than Dubai is. But there's no flicking way I'd want to sit outside and watch a football match during the summer.

 

[riggi]

I've been to Doha a couple of times with work and its nice. Certainly less up its own arse than Dubai is. But there's no flicking way I'd want to sit outside and watch a football match during the summer.

na im not allowd outside of the airport . Ye Dubai does not appeal to me at all.

 

[SugarRay]

Qatar isn't the only Arab nation in the world.

It's probably one of the least deserving nations in the world to hose the football World Cup.

What's wrong with Egypt or Turkey? Two football mad nations with the necessary pedigree. Can't just let any old shite host it. Their team isn't good enough and a load of naturalised Brazilians come 2022 will just make it even more of a joke.

England will stand a better chance if its moved to winter though.

 

[Danners9]

Qatar isn't the only Arab nation in the world.

It's probably one of the least deserving nations in the world to hose the football World Cup.

What's wrong with Egypt or Turkey? Two football mad nations with the necessary pedigree. Can't just let any old shite host it. Their team isn't good enough and a load of naturalised Brazilians come 2022 will just make it even more of a joke.

England will stand a better chance if its moved to winter though.

because Egypt is a shambles and Turkey has the stadia but maybe they didn't fancy applying, these countries have to nominate themselves. Qatar has infinite money to build the projects, after all.

Still, the premise of applying requires a summer World Cup. Awarding it to Qatar then saying it isn't safe to hold it in the summer is ridiculous. What a circus this whole thing is, being summer naturally counts some countries out.. it has to. I live in Oman most of the year and it is similar heat in summer, I barely go outside let alone run around!!

If anyone ever has the clout to bring down FIFA and reform it properly then this decision will be the case study.

 

[ExpatFan]

The very fact that people voted for Qatar 2022 is a travesty.

They were bribed to vote that way. Everyone in Qatar knows that. In fact, they knew the result 3 weeks in advance - FACT.

 

[tototoner]

I think everyone knows Qatar bought the hosting rights

Blatter again has come out and said he wants to move it to the winter, I wonder what would happen if UEFA teams boycotted the 2022 WC over this , would be interesting to see what FIFA do then

http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/23351824

 

[InOffMeLeftShin]

His reasons for wanting to move it and the explanation just scream out that its been bought and no prior study into the viability of the host country has been done. Embarrassing.

 

[riggi]

41 degrees it was when i stepped of the plane....at 18:30

 

[Danners9]

41 degrees it was when i stepped of the plane....at 18:30

a friend posted a pic last night of the temp in his car, 50c.

Changing the World Cup to winter for this one is ridiculous. Part of the criteria is that it takes place in Summer.

Just give it to Qatar because they paid, then figure out the logistics later. Ignoring all the obvious points initially. Makes a mockery of the 'vote' system. Maybe the bidding should just be scrapped altogether, let FIFA hand it to whichever country they feel like and then give countries the option of taking part or not. It would send a clear message if a few of the top nations threatened to withdraw.

 

[Lilbaz]

It's difficult, the middle east should get a world cup. But it shouldn't be limited to a small city.

If it was spread about between Dubai, Qatar, Abu Dhabi etc... then more money could have been spent on training grounds, stadia and activities for the tourists. They could have even made all the stadiums indoors.

As it is, it seems a bit of a mess. But the qataris have enough money to throw at it. There will be plenty of arab fans that will fill all the stadiums, and other sports like the Bahrain grand prix seem to do all right.

Should it be moved to winter? No.

 

[UncleBuck]

Blatter, speaking from the wretched hive of scum and villany that is known as Mos Eisley said:
I find your lack of faith disturbing, a world cup in Qatar will happen in the winter. The size of my brown envelope means that it will, regardless of whether it throws European football into chaos.
Now, you just all watch yourselves, I'm a wanted man don't you know, I have the death sentence on 12 systems."

 

[LSUY]

the middle east should get a world cup.

Why? Aside from Saudi Arabia and Iran which other Middle Eastern countries qualify for the World Cup? When was the last time a Middle Eastern country won a match at a World Cup? I think it might have been over a decade ago.

By giving Qatar the World Cup FIFA have allowed a country that is frankly not good enough to qualify for the tournament a chance to participate. It's going to be a joke to see a team that can't beat the likes of Uzbekistan compete in the world's biggest football tournament. At least Tahiti earnt their place in the Confed Cup.

Personally I would love it if the Premier League turned around to UEFA and FIFA and told them that they aren't suspending the league for a winter World Cup. I would much rather spend my Christmas and New Year's watching Spurs than a footballing tournament that's on the decline.

 

[Lilbaz]

Why? Aside from Saudi Arabia and Iran which other Middle Eastern countries qualify for the World Cup? When was the last time a Middle Eastern country won a match at a World Cup? I think it might have been over a decade ago.

By giving Qatar the World Cup FIFA have allowed a country that is frankly not good enough to qualify for the tournament a chance to participate. It's going to be a joke to see a team that can't beat the likes of Uzbekistan compete in the world's biggest football tournament. At least Tahiti earnt their place in the Confed Cup.

Personally I would love it if the Premier League turned around to UEFA and FIFA and told them that they aren't suspending the league for a winter World Cup. I would much rather spend my Christmas and New Year's watching Spurs than a footballing tournament that's on the decline.

Because it is the World Cup. We should be looking at growing the sport across the globe.

 

[SugarRay]

I'm all for taking the World Cup to new regions but if those regions are too hot then it is a non-starter.

The host nation has to have a football pedigree and should be good enough to qualify without the need of hosting. Maybe make a rule where any potential host must have qualified at least three times for a World Cup or something?

Qatar hosting is ludicrous when you take a look at it. It's like Mexico City hosting the Winter Olympics