Match Ratings Ratings vs Wolves

[parj]

Lamela and Lloris were the only players I thought did well. Foyth and Winks almost in that bracket.

Just feel like we don't seem have the ability nor desire to control the game at the moment. We seem to be eager to hit the self-distruct every game.

 

[BringBack_leGin]

The game was strange, and mostly enjoyable. We played well in parts but the lack of a ‘solid’ CM showed and poor old Foyth is the main victim of this. Wolves are a decent side and the tactic of hitting them at pace worked, but the inconsistency of our performance even with the match threatened to undo a very clinical, professional job,

Hugo was man of the match, without him we definitely don’t get three points. Made all the routine saves look routine, dealt with some difficult saves without any fuss and was the best off his line he’s been in ages.

Trippier put in a wonderful cross for the goal and was otherwise shocking. Every Wolves attack came down his side pretty much, he sold Foyth down the river for penalty number one, and for penalty number two he didn’t deem Winks’ pass as being worthy of breaking a sweat to reach, so wolves broke down his side and Foyth was left chasing. How bad does he have to play before he’s dropped?

Foyth, until the first penalty, which I don’t blame him at all for, was very good. Composed, read the game well, passed the bell nicely and stood up well to all forms of attack. Penalty number one killed his confidence, penalty number two was very naive defending.

Alderweireld spent the whole game mopping up behind, making interceptions, winning headers, he played well. Drawback is that he should’ve been keeping things organised when the pressure was on and he didn’t. That’s the big difference between him and Vertonghen.

Davies was okay, solid enough and made some crunching tackles while his passing was purposeful and incisive.

Winks had a mixed bag, some sloppy play including the stray pass that led to the second penalty but also quick use of the ball, driving runs and took responsibility for the ball. Loved him taking a booking to stop an attack.

Sissoko was okat going forward, drove at Wolves often, but defensively he seemed to get passed by when the pressure was on. Not his best.

Dembele took another step towards the light in his dwindling career.

Lucas played well, scored a great header, showed some lovely skill at pace and played the pass of the match.

Lamela scored a wonderful goal at the end of a move he orchestrated, never let up in the press and showed skill and tenacity to make Kane’s goal.

Kane looked sharp. I don’t mind that he kept shooting, they were almost all good shots and I’m delighted to see him regularly in scoring positions again. Could have had three onsnither day.

Son came on, made Lamela goal with a very clever pass, took decent care of the ball and always looked threatening.

Eriksen came on and looked totally disinterested. So sullen he made Berbatov look like Krusty the Clown.

Sanchez was lost in a sea of madness.

 

[cliff jones]

Lloris 8- excellent

Toby -6 poor to average
Foyth -4 poor second half, exacerbated by the world cup superstar next to him constantly out of position

Davies 6 - typically solidly average
Trippier 2 - typically shite, didn't help foyth, left massive gaps, woddles back into position at least Davies somewhat holds a defensive shape...sigh tired of him

Sissoko -6 not as good as recent, didn't offer enough defensive cover

Winks -6 ok in possession but bad without, got beaten repeatedly and pulled all over the place leaving massive gaps. Good little study to show what Dier provides despite the critique he gets for his work on the ball. The compete opposite of Winks

Son -7 thought he looked good
Moura -7 as above, good goal
Lamela -9 take a lot more than £30 million to by him these days

Kane. -6 poor first half, improved in second but still not great apart from goal
Erisken -3 a fine ozil impression
Sanchez -5 shakey as fuck

good analysis there. But Sissoko contributed far more than Winks.

 

[whitesocks]

Gave it to Lamela but he like everyone else just ran out of energy in the second half.

We have too many injuries at the moment - some totally predictable.
Hopefully MP/Levy has someone lined up for January.

 

[dannythomas]

Very Good : Lloris, Lamela, Winks

Good : Sissoko, Lucas ,

Average : Alderweireld, Davies, Son, Sanchez, Kane

Below Average : Foyth,

Very poor : Trippier, Eriksen

 

[theShiznit]

LLoris made that top save, never seen him get near a penalty. 7
Davies, solid enough defensively and some good passes between the lines, left really isolated 2-1 at times by Son. 6
Trippier. Believing the hype, shouting at others, when he's to blame, misjudging flights of balls, letting things bounce when he shouldn't, letting men run off him for 1 on 1's, nutmegging attackers when last man, another error strewn performance. 3
Toby, Not ideal at LCB, just looks uncomfortable, although having to cover across at LB when Son couldn't be bothered to do his defensive duty didn't help. 6
Foyth. Keen to impress, started well, with a smashing ball into Lamela taking two men out of the game. makes the odd rash call after errors in distribution but i hope he can learn from the game. Confidence seemed a bit knocked at the end but the defence were playing 'shit yourself' by then. 5.5
Winks, substitution of Dembele left him covering a lot of ground on his own, decent enough in possession but got a bit ragged at the end (didn't everyone) 6.5
Sissoko. More of a typical Sissoko Spurs performance, making bad decisions in possession and passing behind or in front of players or too soft/hard. 5
Lamela. A bit hit and miss today, receiving the ball in certain ares where he doesn't have a picture in his head he seems to freeze and just lose the ball, but other times when he knows what he wants to do or can isolate a man is where he shines. Did well to take Son's pass to Tripper on his chest and use his mythical right foot to score. Also harried to start the move for the second goal. 7.

Dembele. NET
Son. Not great for me, too many occasions where he found himself in a good position to counter and just did nothing, and passed a short ball sideways killing the move. Pretty sure the pass for Lamela's goal was also mean't for Trippier, if not it was terribly weighted. Also left Davies isolated 2 on 1 a lot. 5.5
Moura, seemed more reserved today, wasn't his usual blood and thunder display, not a bad thing as he sometimes tries to do everything too fast and his quality suffers for it. a few nice dribbles and the good header for the goal (Gary Neville didn't think he could head the ball and he's a paid pundit ) 6.5

Kane, Still looks like he's running in treacle, his footwork is so slow ATM.never fast but at this level a little drop makes a massive difference, still worked for the team ad had a few nice efforts, and scored but not the same player at present. 6

Eriksen, did he come on? /10

Sanchez, took too long to getup to speed in the game, and contributed to the state of panic in the defence, settled towards the end though NET

Poch, the formation was screwed leaving so much space in the middle and on the wings. Winks needed help in there as did Davies. Looked lived at times (mainly after Trippier's nutmeg)

 

[Boots22]

MOM Hugo, given him pelters in recent weeks but we don’t win that without him today. Lamela a close 2nd, he’s been the player I thought we were signing from Rome this season

 

[werty]

Lloris 8 -Saved us on many occasions.

Trippier 5 - One great cross + one moment of madness.
Foyth 5 - Was good until the first penalty decision. Yes, Trippier is more to blame. But he was still rash and lost his compsure afterwards.
Alderweireld 6 - Okay
Davies 5 - Poor on the ball and didn't defend very well either.

In fairness to the back four, they were set up to lose today. There was some bad stuff from them individually, but the shape of the team didn't help them at all and lead to some bad decision making. It was 5v4 most of the time because of the people in front of them. As soon as we went to a back five we were much better off, though Davies got a bit of roasting by Traore.

Winks 6 - Okay. A couple of sloppy passes, but he and Sissoko were asked to do too much defensively.
Sissoko 6 - Full of endeavour, but as usual lacking quality. He and Winks got closer to their wingbacks than the three in front of them.

No matter what shape we play this season we've asked out central midfield to do an awful lot. We often do, but it's gone up another notch this season.

Son 5 - Woeful effort defensively, which can also be said about the other three below, but he didn't offer much going forward either. The assist to Lamela was an easy pass that he nearly messed up.
Lamela 7 - Took the goal well added an assist. Messed up a few other good situations and doesn't track back as usual.
Lucas 6 - Better movement today - he actually ran in behind a couple of times! - and a nice pass for Kane late on. Poor defensively.

Kane 5 - Greedy. At least he's getting more shots away, I guess! Didn't hold onto the ball well either. Worked hard but not smart.

Poch 5 - Don't usually rate the manager but he needs to take his share of the blame today for the poor defensive showing. We have the same problems any time we come up against a 3421, which I've talked about in detail before. He let our "wide" players get away with murder today (and for most of the season) and took way to long to identify why they were killing us, even though they've been playing the same way all season. He even had Foyth as a DM for a few minutes when Sanchez came on - I don't know if that was miscommunication or what - before finally deciding to go with a back five. When we did we were fairly comfortable.

 

[Mrs VDV]

Hugo 7 - Will he ever save a penalty?

Trippier 4 - Great assist, terrible defending
Foyth 5 - Did well up until the two penalties
Toby 6 - Needs to be the leader at the back
Davies 5 - He's pretty average, I miss Danny

Winks 7 - Did well when he wasn't left completely exposed
Sissoko 7 - For his lack of ability he puts some players to shame with his effort

Son 6 - Some good, some not so
Lamela 8 - Great goal, good assist for Kane
Lucas 7 - Similar to Alli imo, provides pivotal moments

Kane 6 - Great finish for the goal, still looks not quite 100%

Dembele N/A
Eriksen - He didn't bother so I won't
Sanchez 5 - Increased the heart rate

 

[ralvy]

@Bulletspur, why isn't the linesman on the list? We don't win today without him.

 

[theShiznit]

@Bulletspur, why isn't the linesman on the list? We don't win today without him.

You realise that if that goal is given, nothing that happened after it was disallowed happens...

Somwehere in the multiverse it happened and we may have won 7-2. we'll never know.

 

[isaac94]

Lloris 8 -Saved us on many occasions.

Trippier 5 - One great cross + one moment of madness.
Foyth 5 - Was good until the first penalty decision. Yes, Trippier is more to blame. But he was still rash and lost his compsure afterwards.
Alderweireld 6 - Okay
Davies 5 - Poor on the ball and didn't defend very well either.

In fairness to the back four, they were set up to lose today. There was some bad stuff from them individually, but the shape of the team didn't help them at all and lead to some bad decision making. It was 5v4 most of the time because of the people in front of them. As soon as we went to a back five we were much better off, though Davies got a bit of roasting by Traore.

Winks 6 - Okay. A couple of sloppy passes, but he and Sissoko were asked to do too much defensively.
Sissoko 6 - Full of endeavour, but as usual lacking quality. He and Winks got closer to their wingbacks than the three in front of them.

No matter what shape we play this season we've asked out central midfield to do an awful lot. We often do, but it's gone up another notch this season.

Son 5 - Woeful effort defensively, which can also be said about the other three below, but he didn't offer much going forward either. The assist to Lamela was an easy pass that he nearly messed up.
Lamela 7 - Took the goal well added an assist. Messed up a few other good situations and doesn't track back as usual.
Lucas 6 - Better movement today - he actually ran in behind a couple of times! - and a nice pass for Kane late on. Poor defensively.

Kane 5 - Greedy. At least he's getting more shots away, I guess! Didn't hold onto the ball well either. Worked hard but not smart.

Poch 5 - Don't usually rate the manager but he needs to take his share of the blame today for the poor defensive showing. We have the same problems any time we come up against a 3421, which I've talked about in detail before. He let our "wide" players get away with murder today (and for most of the season) and took way to long to identify why they were killing us, even though they've been playing the same way all season. He even had Foyth as a DM for a few minutes when Sanchez came on - I don't know if that was miscommunication or what - before finally deciding to go with a back five. When we did we were fairly comfortable.

I personally think Lamela tracks back very well, that tackle on Doherty on the edge of the box was great. He can't be expected to always be back when he is also our main contributor for the high press

 

[werty]

I personally think Lamela tracks back very well, that tackle on Doherty on the edge of the box was great. He can't be expected to always be back when he is also our main contributor for the high press

One instance doesn't make up for many other times where he's in no man's land. Him wandering around the field to press is a big problem as well. He's fine when he's in the middle. But it's when he's out on the right it's a problem.

 

[mpickard2087]

I don't think that was a game where we played well at any point. Amazingly though we found ourselves 3-0 up, but when you play that unconvincingly throughout and then start to poorly manage the game you're never going to get away with it for the full 90 mins. It was very much a fortunate win by the skin of our teeth and the eventual scoreline was a better reflection of that.

I thought our possession play and constructing attacks was from the start not good enough. A lot of the time we had absolutely no presence/options through the centre. Sissoko/Winks dropping deep and wide into safe positions, Lamela and Kane playing against the backline, and the ball just getting shuffled wide and then eventually turned over. Wasn't a great spectacle. Without it, our narrow defence met Wolves tendency to switch the ball to the flanks, they often were able to work the ball high up the pitch due to our ropey press, and we had to absorb a fair amount of pressure.

But out of the blue we found ourselves 2-0 up and had our best spell of the game as Wolves felt that sucker punch. Firstly Lamela bursts through (not sure if Son actually meant the pass to him, but it was a decent passage of play building up to it) and trusts his weaker foot, and hammers home. Then another decent move sees the ball worked to Trippier, lovely cross, Moura arrives on the scene and a composed header. We had other chances towards the end of the half, as we went into the break things looked ok, but personally I wasn't at ease with what I'd seen and thought we needed to knuckle down, find another gear, and finish the game off.

However, the second half started as I feared. Straightaway we're giving Wolves the initiative and Hugo was forced to make several saves. No defensive organisation, no sorting out how to defend the flanks, getting completely overrun in midfield. We were riding our luck...... And then, again out of very little, 3-0 comes along, route one, flick on, ball is kept alive, a scramble, and Kane converts.

That should have been that. Get the ball down, show some ability to move it across the pitch and string long phases together, kill the game. Yet again though, it just seems beyond us.

Yes both goals were penalties, from mistakes from one individual, but we were asking for it really. We just kept inviting Wolves forward and couldn't stem the flow. We lost any attacking impetus, our organisation and defensive structure was porous. we never closed down the flanks, were wide open, in midfield, had lazy players not putting in a shift. It's going to get punished eventually. I thought Poch had a mixed bag on the touchline, why take off Moura and Son and lose all our counter attack threat? He should have hooked Kane and been done with it, the contribution he was putting in post getting his goal. Sanchez on with Foyth going in as an anchorman was the correct call to try and bolster the midfield, but needed to be made a little earlier for me.

We eventually limped over the line, thank fuck. But that was painful watch tonight.


Lloris - Made some good saves. Never really feel confident about him keeping out a penalty tbh, harsh maybe but true.

Trippier - Good cross for the second goal, an anomaly overall though. Constantly out of position yet again, and the play for the first Wolves goal was ridiculous.

Foyth - Brutal experience for him. Solid game up until he gets exposed and put under a bit of pressure, and two split second judgements he gets wrong later it's two penalties conceded and two goals against. A shame, but you need to go through these things and learn from it. A good prospect and we should back him.

Alderweireld - Some good moments and mostly solid but he's not exactly a big presence at the back right now, is he?

Davies - Not his worst game, but literally any time his opposite man runs at him he is all at sea. I'm tired of watching it (I was two years ago tbh.....).

Winks - I thought it was a really poor game from him to be honest. No drive or ambition to his play, kept picking up the ball in ultra safe areas, and his defensive work was really bad tonight. Was also guilty of a loose pass for the second goal.

Dembele - n/a.

Sissoko - A couple of bursts forward, but not any great use of the ball really. Like Winks only took the ball in ultra safe areas, and wasn't good enough defensively.

Lamela - Took his goal well, bit of a scrambled assist to Kane as well. Didn't think it was a great game from him though, a bit wasteful at other times and didn't aid ball retention in times when we were under the cosh. What he did off the ball was pretty ineffective too.

Moura - Involved for both goals and took his header well, just waiting to see a bit more from him though a lot of the time. Didn't track back so well. I'd have kept him on to counter however.

Kane - Yes he scored, and got a few shots away, but I don't think that was good at all really. His movement and pace is worse than my 85 year old grandma on her zimmerframe, as a target man bar his flick on in the build up to his goal he was woeful, and his pressing/work rate wasn't great either and what he did do was ineffective. If some fans are happy with this version of him because he's keeping up his scoring rate, fine, but I think it's a crying shame that we're seeing this subdued, run into the ground, not firing on all cylinders depleted version of him.

Subs:

Son - Did ok in patches but didn't work hard enough. I'd still have kept him on to counter attack in the latter stages.

Eriksen - Disgraceful effort really.

Sanchez - I thought it was the correct sub, a bit late though, but he didn't settle really.

 

[ralvy]

You realise that if that goal is given, nothing that happened after it was disallowed happens...

Somwehere in the mulltiverse it happened and we may have won 7-2. we'll never know.

I agree. However, you saw how the game played out: we barely were able to hold onto a 3 goals lead with less than 25 minutes on the clock, so I think it would have been very unlikely for us to be able to hold onto a one goal lead with about an hour of game left.

 

[JimmyG2]

Cherries...........Lamela, Lloris
Icing.................Winks, Sissoko (first half), Foyth (first half) Toby mostly, Moura
Cake................ Son, Kane,
Crumbs...........Trippier, Davies, Eriksen, Sanchez.

Game of two halves innit.
Linesman a Spurs fan clearly.

Much too late KO on a Saturday night for such a young team.
Needed to be in bed by half time. Foyth having nightmares.

 

[Roy's Racers]

Before you have a dig at Lamela using Eriksen as an example, at least Lamela usually makes an effort to and usually retrieve the ball much more than Eriksen who also gives the ball away.

Thats the point. Erikesen gives the ball away less, particularly when transitioning from defence to attack. Hence, less running back to retrieve the ball. There was 3-4 times Wolves nicked the ball from Lamela by the halfway line.

 

[Mr Pink]

Lamela easily MOTM.

Also thought Sissoko had another decent game.

 

[THX2208]

Érik Lamela ?

 

[Lighty64]

Trippier - Now I am not going to join the hate brigade, but I said a while ago and I will say it again, he is a right midfielder, not a full back. I would play KWP and Trippier in the same side. Excellent cross for Mouras goal, some weak defending and was targeted heavily by Wolves today.

trouble is next week Palace will target him with Zaha, because Aurier or KWP will most probably face PSV.