Rawk, someone with sense..............

[carlito]

Clear symptoms of a man in his 20s with no perspective on the history of English football. He probably thinks City hold some sort of legend status rather than historically being mid-table mediocrity as well.

If any two teams are on a par in terms of glamour and history, it's Liverpool & us. Many similarities in terms of achievements and style. But they're shit now, and we're not.

To be fair mate cant you see the irony , everyone on here is carrying on about liverpool fans being deluded , now im not calling you deluded by any means but to compare our history to them is somewhat off the mark . I am incredibly proud of spurs past and present come to that , but i think there trophy cabinet is slightly larger than ours

 

[KaribYid]

The thing is though. I don't think Spurs is the right environment for him. I actually think he's made a big mistake with the club he's joining and I'm really unsure about AVB and his ability to get the best out of new signings

 

[Paolo10]

If i'm being honest, I believe their trophy cabinet over the years is better off than ours.

...and don't they love talking about it.

5 times...so fuck. What have they achieved recently?

Delusional and living in the past.

 

[Dan Yeats]

If i'm being honest, I believe their trophy cabinet over the years is better off than ours.

To be fair mate cant you see the irony , everyone on here is carrying on about liverpool fans being deluded , now im not calling you deluded by any means but to compare our history to them is somewhat off the mark . I am incredibly proud of spurs past and present come to that , but i think there trophy cabinet is slightly larger than ours

It certainly is (and I wondered if that might be pointed out when I wrote it). But we have a few significant achievements and 'firsts' that go some way to balancing that out, and although our's may not have been as long lived, the 'glory periods' of both clubs are equally illustrious in many ways.

 

[Sp3akerboxxx]

...and don't they love talking about it.

5 times...so fuck. What have they achieved recently?

Delusional and living in the past.

Oh I certainly agree with you that they live in the past. I don't see how a club's history has any place in a conversation about modern football. Somehow they managed to start talking about their history in a thread about Holtby moving to spurs

 

[carlito]

It certainly is (and I wondered if that might be pointed out when I wrote it). But we have a few significant achievements and 'firsts' that go some way to balancing that out, and although our's may not have been as long lived, the 'glory periods' of both clubs are equally illustrious in many ways.

in fact who am i kidding , what have they ever won , delusional *****

 

[ilikeost]

One of them posted this.

Borini
Allen
Assaidi
Sturridge
Yesil
============
Vertonghen
Sigurdsson
Dembele
Dempsey
Hugo Lloris
Adebayor
Holtby

All I can think after seeing that is: Well fucking done, Levy.

 

[KILLA_SIN]

Why all the Liverpool hate? Don't get it. They are a massive club always have been always will be. Yes they have had problems in recent years but they will be back at some point.

Anfield is still the best and most special ground in the country IMO give me an Anfield over Eastlands, Emirates, Stamford bridge etc every single time.

Yes we have had the better of it over the last 3/4 seasons but guys show some class. You have to respect LFC as a club. Always enjoyed a beer and a chat with Liverpool fans before and after the game at WHL never seen much animosity, so really don't get all the hate on here??!

Would much prefer LFC to be in the top4 than any of the other clubs up there with us. Especially the club that is everything I hate.... Chelsea! Now the hate I have for them is something else!

I have to agree with you Liverpool are a massive club I would not underestimate them and returning to being a top side, however equally I would not underestimate how far they have fallen from grace. I personally would not wish ill will to anyone but I am enjoying their fall due to my own experiences with their fans. I went to school, university and have a fair few Pool fans in my family and they have since day dot wound me up with their own feeling of self entitlement and divine right not just to consider themselves a Champions League side but title contenders. They have not one a league title for twenty years and they may have come second 2-3 times since the Premier Leagues conception but all if not most of the ones I have met have always genuinely believed they are still every season going in to the new season as title challengers. s. The fact that a lot of the people I know are just Liverpool supporters from their glory days winds me up even further because Liverpool FC have never endeared anyone with the style of football. They have bored the shit out of fans and opponents.

But I think slowly under Hodgson and Dalglish in the last 2-3 years the gloss of their own self worth as a ‘Massive Club’ has begun to wear off and they are themselves beginning to realise they are way off even in their own estimates as a top side.

I would even go as far as to say they are not even any longer in the top two tiers of English football. You Have Manchester United/City, Chelsea in tier 1. Arsenal, Everton, and ourselves in tier 2 fighting for Champions League and then Liverpool, Newcastle etc.

The fact that this summer they have lost out on Sig, Dempsey [who are by no means guaranteed starters at us but would probably be for them] and now a real talent like Holtby in one season is probably why there is resentment towards us because they had never seen us a threat to them in the past and they were pally with Spurs fans but now that are losing transfer targets and good transfer targets at that I think they have began to realise that we are definitely beyond them for now.

 

[Shadydan]

Football fans of different teams are not unique from eachother, some are deluded/delusional, some are realistic, some are pessimistic, some are moronic, some are cocky/arrogant whatever...the point I'm trying to make is that as supporters we are all the same people who happen to share the same passion which is watching 22 men kick a ball around a field for 90 mins, so show me a distinction which separates how one set of fans think from the next fans because I cannot see one. We are all the same people who happen to keenly follow different tribes who wear different colours.

Yes it's very easy to come to a conclusion about a certain set of fans because you will always go by personal experiences, a lot of fans (including myself) are guilty of doing this especially as you're more likely to come into direct contact with them. i.e your friends, possibly family, blogs, forums, sites etc...will more often than not wind you up with their comments and actions and it's very easy to make a biased judgement and tar them all with the same brush.

My point is about perception, about a set of fans more than anything because in my experience I've dealt with certain sets of fans and so it'll be easy to make conclusions about them. For example I've heard for years that Liverpool fans are arrogant and this opinion seems to come from a lot of people mainly because there's a lot of Liverpool fans about up and down the country but if Burton Albion and Liverpool swapped places and had reverse fortunes then would we see the same type of arrogance from their supporters and would we expect Burton supporters to be humble, I doubt it.

So what separates us from them? I will garantee you that if we have a successful period where we win a load of silverware, the moment it starts going tits up we'll start referring to past glories, it's a common defence mechanism technique used by all football fans today especially when this club are doing f-all at the moment.

 

[neogenisis]

I have two very good Liverpool supporting mates on Facebook, we give each other grief in a jovial way i don't have much trouble with it, but as of yesterday its turned into arguments..mainly over Mr Holtby.
It started as a simple *We got Holtby COYS!!* status update than got an immediate
*Pool didn't want him mate, only reason you got him* followed by
*He obviously doesn't want to win anything then haha*

Now if you are like me the red mist is descending, the rage is building and im ready to go fo fekking war.
No matter what i said, i will admit i was seething but tried to keep it as factual as i could and tried to keep any opinon out..but it always ends up in

*Fekk off, go look in your trophy cabinet*

Now i readily admit that Liverpool have an epic history AS DO WE, but even in there decline they are still a big club...but i dont live on Spurs glories of the past, i revel in them and love we have them but they don't ever form the point of a frontal assault as history is just that..history...at this point i used my only opinion and that was

*Liverpool are not the club they used to be, they are just mid table with a smattering of good players.*

And was told Liverpool are in a false position and will finish above Spurs, i left it as this and retired to my tin helmet state as i was exhausted.
I will go to town in any argument to defend my beloved club, but of all the fans i have these *debates* with Liverpool fans just cant see what is in front of them.

 

[Bulletspur]

Clear symptoms of a man in his 20s with no perspective on the history of English football. He probably thinks City hold some sort of legend status rather than historically being mid-table mediocrity as well.

If any two teams are on a par in terms of glamour and history, it's Liverpool & us. Many similarities in terms of achievements and style. But they're shit now, and we're not.

I have to disagree with you here. Liverpool would wipe the floor with us if we were to compare achievements.

 

[double0]

I'm just baffled as to why our fans would 'hate' Liverpool fans for being deluded. Maybe worth our laughter but not our hatred. I reserve my immense dislike for City and my hatred for Chelsea.

PS - agree with earlier poster; I think Liverpool might come back into the equation in the second half of the season. They have mixed abysmal results (Villa) with some strong wins of late and Sturridge is likely to be a decent addition. Exactly what they need.

ManC I really don't mind their true support is phenomenal was impressed by the passion of blue moon in the lower division they would still pack out the old Maine Road also our epic battle with city with that Ricky V goal we shaired a moment in English football history. Chelseas history is of aggression and foolishness

 

[scat1620]

If any two teams are on a par in terms of glamour and history, it's Liverpool & us. Many similarities in terms of achievements and style.

Much as we are clearly a level above Liverpool now and have been for the past few seasons, the above quote is worryingly far off the mark. They've won 18 League Titles and 5 European Cups, compared to our 2 League Titles and 0 European Cups.

We are a glamorous club with a proud and glorious history, but if you're looking at prestige and honours in the English game then Liverpool are 2nd only to Man Utd.

I still wouldn't swap positions with them now, but no one can deny that their club history is even more star-studded than ours. It's just factually incorrect.

 

[Gedson100]

I used to have a soft spot for Liverpool due to having a few fans as mates and it being the opposite of Man Utd, who I can't stand.
I suspect this is quite a default position for some people my age who grew up watching Barnes, Dalglish etc.

In recent years, i've gone right off them.

Last year they were terrible, the dirtiest side we played all year and under Dalglish they barely put a foot right with the racist storm and general attitude. Combined with the certain smugness & entitlement that pervades a portion of their fanbase, it's an irritiating blend. Plus they were average under Hodgson so the hounded him out. Average under Dalglish and he's still the messiah? Just hypocrisy based on history as per usual. Brendan Rodgers has hardly endeared himself with his 'We won the passing' rubbish either. And the eternal wanky Gerrard love-in will always get on my tits too, sure he has qualities but the man has always been overrated just because he's so typically English in his style...

 

[Wheeler Dealer]

I hope the Gerrard loving continues, as he is a shadow of his best days and the longer he stays in the team, then they will always come up short due to him having no or little influence....

 

[the watson]

Liverpool fans would have you believe that they are pride of England and that every English football fan outside of United/Everton absolutely adore and admire the club that they happen to support (coincidence). Liverpool fans spout on about how Anfield creates this 'magical' and 'special' atmosphere and how when 'You'll never walk alorn' rings around the stadium the whole of England wells up with pride and envy. Scousers have a mad patriotism for anything do with Liverpool and if you dare question why you should give a fuck about LFC they feel like you're insulting their whole city/family/heritage.

I've heard the phrase 'Well you can never write off Liverpool' so many times and nobody has ever asked 'why not?', as if its blasphemy!

 

[Pete Spur]

It certainly is (and I wondered if that might be pointed out when I wrote it). But we have a few significant achievements and 'firsts' that go some way to balancing that out, and although our's may not have been as long lived, the 'glory periods' of both clubs are equally illustrious in many ways.

except they won alot more than us in their glory years

the thing is we look to be potentially at the beginning of more glory years if ****s like abramobitch and the oil twats will fuck off and die somewhere else, were as they're currently in the shit

things can change fast in football though

 

[StartingPrice]

This is a great post

Well, yeah, it would be a great post if he wasn't explaining why he wasn't bothered about not getting Holtby who was on a free transfer, by referencing frequently how they have been spending too much money buying mediocre players. Hello, he's a FREE.

1) There is no proof that he is a mediocrity (the only attempted proof he could offer was that United, Citeh and Chelsea hadn't been in for him).
2) He's on a F R E E

 

[Graysonti]

Sigs, Dempsey - cough, cough

Finished above them last three seasons.

There in Liverpooool

 

[RickyVilla]

ManC I really don't mind their true support is phenomenal was impressed by the passion of blue moon in the lower division they would still pack out the old Maine Road also our epic battle with city with that Ricky V goal we shaired a moment in English football history. Chelseas history is of aggression and foolishness

Is he just hating them because of the money now or is it because he got chased through Moss Side many years ago. I would hazard a guess at the first one, for me it is the last one!!