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Retire Ledley's number?

beats1

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Maldini, Baresi, Giggs, Del Piero, yes


King, no.

All those players played in great teams and with great players, had they played in shit teams, would they no longer be worthy of their status

Totti for example is revered in Italy the only reason King isn't is because of his knee harming his England chances
 

HodisGawd

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Grow up people, have some perspective. The answer is no. Great player, club legend, indeed my maybe even my personal favourite player. But still no. And, to be controversial, was he so loyal to us? Or were we more loyal to him? I mean, he is on 70k a week.
 

bigturnip

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I don't understand this new fad of retiring numbers, it's some stupid American tradition, in a couple of centuries time we'll be like American Football and the lowest available shirt number will be 313.
 

guiltyparty

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Think it would be fairly disrespectful to the many other great players we've had who we've not retired numbers for

Just because it's an unorthodox number, doesn't mean we should set such a massive precedent for a very good player who won very little and who we stuck by through many injuries.
 

Allen

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Yes, retire it for me. A mark of respect, an honourable notion. Particularly because no one else has worn the 26. Ledley was the first in the new system (correct me if I'm wrong).
 

OmarsComing

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All those players played in great teams and with great players, had they played in shit teams, would they no longer be worthy of their status

Totti for example is revered in Italy the only reason King isn't is because of his knee harming his England chances

Totti captained the team he supported as a boy to the championship, 6 runners up and 5 fa cup finals. He also was a runners up at euro 2000 and won the world cup

Comparing Totti to King is very biased IMO next you'll be comparing Hoddle to Zidane.
 

PT

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The shirt number could become iconic - like a no 10 or a no 7. Only a top drawer central defender coming in would be offered it - like the Beckham no 23 at RM.
 

BringBack_leGin

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Totti captained the team he supported as a boy to the championship, 6 runners up and 5 fa cup finals. He also was a runners up at euro 2000 and won the world cup

Comparing Totti to King is very biased IMO next you'll be comparing Hoddle to Zidane.

No comparison between Hoddle and Zidane. One is the most underrated footballer of all time, would've had 3 times as many international caps if he played for a nation who understood football, and is recognised by his peers of the time as being an equal to Platini and having everything Maradons had apart from pace. The other is a great player who always had the best players on the planet around him. Could Zidane have carried our 80s side the way Hoddle did? Doubtful. Would Hoddle have outshone every member of the galactico Madrid side barring maybe Real Ronaldo? Probably.
 

rez9000

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Can I just point out the irrelevant here?

Whether Ledley would have stayed with Spurs if he didn't have his injury record is irrelevant to the discussion.

Unless we're suggesting that we judge people on what they might have done, rather than what they have done?

If so, then perhaps we should all start loving Sol Campbell again. Because, hey, he might have stayed at Spurs and been a legend.

What Ledley has done is to give everything he was able to Spurs. That is what is relevant and considering whether his shirt number should be retired is because of that. What he has done, not what he might have done.
 

ShelfSide18

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I retired my old Kappa Spurs shirt not long ago, but mainly because I got too fat for it.
 

OmarsComing

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No comparison between Hoddle and Zidane. One is the most underrated footballer of all time, would've had 3 times as many international caps if he played for a nation who understood football, and is recognised by his peers of the time as being an equal to Platini and having everything Maradons had apart from pace. The other is a great player who always had the best players on the planet around him. Could Zidane have carried our 80s side the way Hoddle did? Doubtful. Would Hoddle have outshone every member of the galactico Madrid side barring maybe Real Ronaldo? Probably.

dont believe what your Father tells you!

Zidane>Hoddle every day of the week.
 

Spurs-USA

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If he wore #5 instead of #26 I'd say no, but whoTF wears #26 anyway? Might as well retire it - nice tribute.
 

Ionman34

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dont believe what your Father tells you!

Zidane>Hoddle every day of the week.
Can't agree with this in any way, shape or form.

I watched them both and Hoddle was superior in every way, vision, passing ability, influence and scoring ability. Neither could tackle so that is a moot point.
Hoddle was overshadowed by one player in the World, arguably the best of all time and that was Maradona.
 

delpiero

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Generally I wouldn't agree with retiring any shirt number unless we had win a major and then a retirement but the number itself does come into it.

Can't imagine anyone wanting to take the kings number, mark of respect for a loyal cpt and someone who literally put his body on the line for our club.

I personally think the man has been one of the best players I've ever seen in the lily white and due to his loyalty to the club deserves a special recognition.

The WHL tour even specifies his shirt on the walk through, not many players have that.
 

OmarsComing

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Can't agree with this in any way, shape or form.

I watched them both and Hoddle was superior in every way, vision, passing ability, influence and scoring ability. Neither could tackle so that is a moot point.
Hoddle was overshadowed by one player in the World, arguably the best of all time and that was Maradona.

Only on a spurs forum would you ever read that Hoddle was better than Zidane.
 

adiepf

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We're it sentiment you'd have a point. As it's opinion you don't.

Tu-fuckin-che my dear fello :)

But remember Omars opinion/sentiment/food preferences are the only ones that count on here u silly boy...

Oh & spurs_bear ;)
 
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