Roberto Soldado

[Redfap]

I'm so torn about this. I like Bobby and I do believe with some more creative players behind him attempting some through balls he could cut it in the EPL. However, we do have Ade and he is at the age where this is our last chance to recoup some money on him.

Hmmmmm decisions....

I think I want him to stay!

 

[DaSpurs]

Something we have to take into consideration is Bob's wife is pregnant, and after that miscarriage last year he may very much want to take her back to Spain so she can be as comfortable as possible in this pregnancy.

 

[SpurSince57]

JJ was Incredibly noncommittal though

JJ usually is, unless he's got something pretty concrete. It suggests that if a striker's going to go, Soldado will be first for the bum's rush, which isn't a great surprise.

 

[spurs9]

Something we have to take into consideration is Bob's wife is pregnant, and after that miscarriage last year he may very much want to take her back to Spain so she can be as comfortable as possible in this pregnancy.

I see where you are coming from, but the stress of moving countries again could be exactly what they don't need unless they are going back to Valencia.

 

[DaSpurs]

I see where you are coming from, but the stress of moving countries again could be exactly what they don't need unless they are going back to Valencia.

You're right, but I would imagine the stress of that move would be less than the stress of spending another year in London away from most of their friends and family, and her continuing to stress about Bob making it work on the pitch. Also, I'm sure Soldado has the resources to arrange such that she would hardly have to do a thing related to the move, and that she could just stay with family until he gets it sorted. I think even if it weren't Valencia, it'd still be more comfortable than the change from Valencia to London. That reduction in sunlight can have some major psychoactive effects on people used to spending their entire lives with it.

 

[SpurSince57]

Something we have to take into consideration is Bob's wife is pregnant, and after that miscarriage last year he may very much want to take her back to Spain so she can be as comfortable as possible in this pregnancy.

Being totally brutal about it, is this really relevant? He's hardly the first Spurs player to have undergone a traumatic experience in the past few seasons, is he?

 

[DaSpurs]

Being totally brutal about it, is this really relevant? He's hardly the first Spurs player to have undergone a traumatic experience in the past few seasons, is he?

Extremely. Stress is a very well-documented cause of premature miscarriage, and as far I understand they don't have any children (meaning they could badly want one, especially considering they turned around and had another one so quickly after the last miscarriage; many couples often struggle with that trauma and struggle to get back to it). I'm not saying this is necessarily even a primary factor, but it's certainly relevant. Also, I think she was pretty far into the pregnancy when it didn't work out? Always makes it far worse.

 

[SpurSince57]

Extremely. Stress is a very well-documented cause of premature miscarriage, and as far I understand they don't have any children. I'm not saying this is necessarily even a primary factor, but it's certainly relevant.

I wasn't saying it doesn't have an effect (having had a girlfriend lose a baby way back in 1971 and two sisters suffer miscarriages I feel I'm reasonably well qualified to comment); I was questioning whether it had a greater effect than Palacios' having his brother kidnapped and murdered by terrorists/bandits, or Ade's team bus being ambushed. Defoe had one sibling murdered and another die in a ridiculous, needless accident.

The idea that Soldado's wife's miscarriage was a major factor in his failure to deliver the goods is pretty insulting to him as a professional.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

I'd be a bit disappointed if Soldado's outed after one season. We all know he's better than last season. We have an uber fulcrum in Adebayor, the kid Kane who's not bad outside the box and not to bad in it (but not great), Soldado gives us a pure 9 box man, which we'd struggle to find one of the same standard.

We have a nice trio there right now.

 

[DaSpurs]

I wasn't saying it doesn't have an effect (having had a girlfriend lose a baby way back in 1971 I feel I'm reasonably well qualified to comment), but more than Palacios' having his brother kidnapped and murdered? by More than Ade's team bus being ambushed by terrorists/bandits? More than Defoe's having one sibling murdered and another dying in a ridiculous, needless accident?

Oh that's not quite what I'm implying here (but first, my condolences for your loss and I'm sorry to hear that). I'm simply suggesting that he may view their situation in London as stressful on her, and as such he may want to take her back to Spain where she can be more comfortable in this pregnancy. Essentially it's the conditions she's living in there and after a change that may make her life more stressful, not necessarily already having had a miscarriage (although that certainly doesn't help).

Like I said in my response to 9, the effects of having lived one's whole life in a sunny land and then moving to Great Britain can be very psychologically damaging, and we also have no idea what their social support is like in London. Also, for all we know, she may already have a preexisting pscyhological condition and as such is more predisposed to exacerbation from all of the above.

That's a pretty significant factor in a young couple's life (as I'm sure you know), even if he is a millionaire with the resources to try and counteract some of it. It's important to keep that in mind in wondering as to why he may be the striker looking to be moved on from our current options.

 

[Annabel]

I hope we keep Soldado if he's happy to stay. He's got two young kids either starting or just started school & a third on the way so he needs to be settled.

 

[gibbospurs]

Hardly traumatic moving home when your a multi millionaire. It's not like he has to hire a 7.5 ton van a do multiple trips.

 

[DaSpurs]

Hardly traumatic moving home when your a multi millionaire. It's not like he has to hire a 7.5 ton van a do multiple trips.

Well tbf, a move is always going to be stressful on a mother. Again I do think it'd be less than remaining in London with less of a social support, but it is stressful even if she doesn't have to pack a single box.

 

[y1dk1d]

Love RS. Seems like a nice guy and although it shouldn't have any relevance I do feel sorry for him and his Mrs. I also want him to prove all of my friends wrong aha. Really wanted it to work but being realistic, it's unlikely we'll see anything that different next season

 

[dagraham]

I hope this is true. Not because I don't like him or think he's a good player, but because I'm in the minority who feel he's just not cut out to be a number 9 in this league, especially if we continue with one up front.

 

[ebzrascal]

I wasn't saying it doesn't have an effect (having had a girlfriend lose a baby way back in 1971 and two sisters suffer miscarriages I feel I'm reasonably well qualified to comment); I was questioning whether it had a greater effect than Palacios' having his brother kidnapped and murdered by terrorists/bandits, or Ade's team bus being ambushed. Defoe had one sibling murdered and another die in a ridiculous, needless accident.

The idea that Soldado's wife's miscarriage was a major factor in his failure to deliver the goods is pretty insulting to him as a professional.

In many ways traumatic circumstances can make you focus even more in your profession as it helps you escape life's problems for a brief moment. However everyone is different I guess..

 

[90s Kid]

Am I alone in thinking that one of the major contributing factors to Soldado's poor form last season was the frustratingly stagnant style of play we adopted, or were forced to adopt? Yes he missed chances that he should and would probably have scored in Valencia, but the way we were playing under AVB was so slow and ponderous that the opposition defence had as much time as they needed to get their shape right and stifle any attacking threat we might have posed. The fact that we pushed defences so deep was also something that hampered his play - with no space behind the defence into which he could dart. So by the time Tim 'Tactical Genius' Sherwood came in and supposedly shook things up and tried to change the style to a more enterprising fast tempo attacking style, Soldado had already lost confidence and slowly struggled to break his way into Tim's contention.

I hope and pray that Pochettino will have us playing in a much more fluid dynamic way, that will drag defenders around and create the space that Sol thrives on. And also that Eriksen can find him with some dirty through balls.

 

[worcestersauce]

Simple decision to be made is, can we bring in someone to do a better job? if yes then cheerio, if no then he stays, no room for sentiment in this. So can we get someone better?

 

[spurs9]

Hardly traumatic moving home when your a multi millionaire. It's not like he has to hire a 7.5 ton van a do multiple trips.

It's the leaving friends and going into a new environment with new work mates, not knowing anyone (or many people) in the area, etc that is stressful not the actual logistics of the move.

 

[spurs9]

I hope this is true. Not because I don't like him or think he's a good player, but because I'm in the minority who feel he's just not cut out to be a number 9 in this league, especially if we continue with one up front.

Lambert said Poch taught him how to be a lone striker, maybe he can do the same with Soldado.