Sandro - Barca forward

[Trix]

The problem with dealing with both Barca and Real is that they insist on buy back clauses, which Levy(rightly so) will not entertain.

 

[bceej]

The problem with dealing with both Barca and Real is that they insist on buy back clauses, which Levy(rightly so) will not entertain.

Supposedly Adama Traore didn't have one in his move to Villa.

 

[Shep]

Supposedly Adama Traore didn't have one in his move to Villa.

He does. That said it looks highly unlikely it will be activated!

 

[$hoguN]

The problem with dealing with both Barca and Real is that they insist on buy back clauses, which Levy(rightly so) will not entertain.

The notion of a buyback clause is ridiculous. If a player does well they take them back at a cut price, if they fail they just take the rest of the money and laugh. Can't believe anyone would agreed to them

 

[glospur]

The notion of a buyback clause is ridiculous. If a player does well they take them back at a cut price, if they fail they just take the rest of the money and laugh. Can't believe anyone would agreed to them

If the buy back clause was for a significantly higher fee than the one initially paid then it would make sense. A club would effectively be taking a player on loan and if he developed to a high enough level where the selling club wanted him back the club that bought him for themselves would get their money back and also be rewarded further financially for the players improvement. If he doesn't reach that level then it's just like a normal transfer.

That's how I always thought a buy back clause would work in that it would be a lot higher than the initial payment, not a cut price.

 

[spursfan77]

They'll want a buy back option too. Can you see Daniel going for that?

No, me neither.

 

[Trix]

Supposedly Adama Traore didn't have one in his move to Villa.

Pretty sure there is one mate, its standard procedure now for them. They usually last at least 3 years aswell.

 

[Trix]

If the buy back clause was for a significantly higher fee than the one initially paid then it would make sense. A club would effectively be taking a player on loan and if he developed to a high enough level where the selling club wanted him back the club that bought him for themselves would get their money back and also be rewarded further financially for the players improvement. If he doesn't reach that level then it's just like a normal transfer.

That's how I always thought a buy back clause would work in that it would be a lot higher than the initial payment, not a cut price.

Not with Real and Barca.

 

[jari17]

According to sport we have made a formal 4 year contract offer, apparently its now his decision.

Doubt he will come though, he seems hesitant and if there is a buy back its a big no imo

 

[THFCSPURS19]

barcastuff ‏@barcastuff 22m22 minutes ago
Tottenham have made Sandro (20) a formal four-year offer. Player didn't yet decide. Tottenham want deal before end of the year. [sport]

 

[THFCSPURS19]

Shit translation, but here's the article:

http://www.sport.es/es/noticias/barca/del-tottenham-clausula-recompra-por-sandro-4776469

'No' Tottenham repurchase clause for Sandro
The agreement between Barcelona and Tottenham is complicated, as the Spurs do not want to risk losing if the canary Sandro gives a good performance

The Tottenham has launched its final offensive for the signing of Sandro , once it has verified that the club is willing to discard the player in the January. The London club has already spoken to the player himself to throw a firm offer for the next four and a half seasons and is waiting for the player to give the final OK to a deal that could get complicated. And the English club is unwilling to include any repurchase clause for Barca in the transfer to pay an amount considered important enough to stay one hundred percent of the player's rights.

Club Mauricio Pochettino takes time following Sandro . They know him from passing through the subsidiary and have been evaluating their performance with the first team.Several scouts have spied London club footballer direct way in recent months and have come to the conclusion that the striker can always exploit to be granted a special role.Reports are saying that the player has played somewhat restrained in the first team ofBarca , but can be an important player in the Premiership. Like his competitiveness, technique and mobility in the offensive positions. Moreover, because of his youth, they consider it an important long-term operation.

The Tottenham is marked as a priority for the winter hiring a striker striker. The 'nine' clear head is English Harry Kane , but the commitment of those of Pochettino as a squire, French N'Jie Clinton , coming from Lyon , has not gone well. The club invested ten million euros for the player, but has not given the expected performance. The Tottenham is having a great season and its chairman, Daniel Levy , has given permission to bring a major front for the second round where they have real chance of qualifying for the Champions League.

Already there were contacts with Sandro this summer, but the talks have intensified in recent days and the player already has the offer on the table. The Tottenham believes it could keep the footballer paying 12 million euros of its clause, but wants to negotiate a discount with the club , but in no case accept the famous repurchase clause that itself has been included in the transfer of Gerard Deulofeu and Adama . Will have to see if the operation comes to fruition and it seems that everything depends on the desire of the player to leave the Catalan entity to have more minutes in a major team in Europe. TheTottenham wants to close all before the end of the year, but there is still plenty of material to be cut.

 

[Joshua]

Obviously a buy-back clause is annoying but it's only gonna get activated if he turns out to be truly outstanding. I'm pretty sure Deulofeu still has one active in his contract, and he's been fantastic this season but are Barca that bothered about bringing him back? I'd be all for this kid even with a buy-back, as he'd have to become something approaching world-class for Barca even to consider using it.

 

[THFCSPURS19]

Thread on him from a Barca forum going back to 2011.

http://www.barcaforum.com/showthread.php/8260-19-Sandro-Ramírez

 

[Ghost Hardware]

As far as back up strikers go, I would be happy with Sandro. Can't imagine he would cost a lot and i think he is suited to the PL. he is far from the finished article but there is no doubt he has potential and is certainly primarily a striker although can play LW if needed.

 

[allpaths]

Thread on him from a Barca forum going back to 2011.

http://www.barcaforum.com/showthread.php/8260-19-Sandro-Ramírez

my god i read the last 15 pages of the thread and it was basically the same 5-8 posters ripping on him and munir, i mean i dont watch many barca games, so I dont know how good he's been, but their absolutely ruthless. The only time they didnt shit all over him was when he scored a hat-trick in the copa. anyways i know sc can be hard on our youth at times but nothing quite like that.
Anyways I only remember him from the next gen series were I thought he was very dangerous, wouldn't mind him for the right price.

 

[THFCSPURS19]

my god i read the last 15 pages of the thread and it was basically the same 5-8 posters ripping on him and munir, i mean i dont watch many barca games, so I dont know how good he's been, but their absolutely ruthless. The only time they didnt shit all over him was when he scored a hat-trick in the copa. anyways i know sc can be hard on our youth at times but nothing quite like that.
Anyways I only remember him from the next gen series were I thought he was very dangerous, wouldn't mind him for the right price.

Yeah I was reluctant to post it because Barca fans live on a different planet. They are also used to watching Messi, Neymar and Suarez so it's difficult to give their opinions much value.

 

[Ghost Hardware]

Yeah I was reluctant to post it because Barca fans live on a different planet. They are also used to watching Messi, Neymar and Suarez so it's difficult to give their opinions much value.

My second team is Barca and has been since I was 13 when my father was working in Barcelona and took me to a few games and I can't agree more with this comment. RM fans are worse as they feel they are in entitled to every player unde the sun but Barca fans on the whole have no sense of reality when it comes to judging players.

 

[bceej]

Pretty sure there is one mate, its standard procedure now for them. They usually last at least 3 years aswell.

Bleak, but here's hoping.

 

[TEESSIDE1]

my god i read the last 15 pages of the thread and it was basically the same 5-8 posters ripping on him and munir, i mean i dont watch many barca games, so I dont know how good he's been, but their absolutely ruthless. The only time they didnt shit all over him was when he scored a hat-trick in the copa. anyways i know sc can be hard on our youth at times but nothing quite like that.
Anyways I only remember him from the next gen series were I thought he was very dangerous, wouldn't mind him for the right price.

Other than Roberto and Rafinha in central midfield the other Barca youngsters have failed to deliver this season. Munir and Sandro have both been guilty of missing sitters.

Sandro's talented, a bit like Morata in his early days at Real but we need someone we can rely on if Kane is missing for whatever reason or to come on and compliment him/potentially win us games. At the stage he's currently at Sandro's more of a 3rd choice and not what we need, especially with us having a real chance of a top 4 finish.

 

[Trix]

Obviously a buy-back clause is annoying but it's only gonna get activated if he turns out to be truly outstanding. I'm pretty sure Deulofeu still has one active in his contract, and he's been fantastic this season but are Barca that bothered about bringing him back? I'd be all for this kid even with a buy-back, as he'd have to become something approaching world-class for Barca even to consider using it.

Or they realise they can sell him for more at a later date. Let's be honest the buybacks both Barca and Madrid use are completely one sided, and hold zero benefit to the buying club.