scouting and transfers

[nicdic]

I didn't mean Wanyama I meant Nkdou.

2: Like I said is that area in dire need of improvement, when we have limited funds and other areas to improve on?

3> Foyth is a prospect but where is the game time coming from to impress? He is competing with great defenders, Nkdou was a prospect his price wasnt that high but Poch quickly decided that he isn't good enough.

4 So Chelsea lack imagination as well which is no surprise, we arent Chelsea we need to be more a lot more intelligent then they are.

What do you think Hitchin's input has been?

Your points don't even make sense. This isn't about scouting, it's just venting that we didn't buy the players you want.

Signing Sanchez didn't stop us from buying in other areas. We needed to upgrade in defence when you consider the desire to play a back three more, and the fact that Wimmer and CCV went out. We've essentially replaced those two.

Foyth, N'Koudou, and anyone else will get game time if they impress in training. Scouting reports suggested we buy them, but in GK's situation, so far he hasn't proved he's worth the game time. Not all transfers work out. But at those prices worth a gamble.

I don't know exactly what Hitchin's input has been, and nor will most anyone else.

 

[DanielCHillier]

I didn't mean Wanyama I meant Nkdou.

2: Like I said is that area in dire need of improvement, when we have limited funds and other areas to improve on?

3> Foyth is a prospect but where is the game time coming from to impress? He is competing with great defenders, Nkdou was a prospect his price wasnt that high but Poch quickly decided that he isn't good enough.

4 So Chelsea lack imagination as well which is no surprise, we arent Chelsea we need to be more a lot more intelligent then they are.

What do you think Hitchin's input has been?

N'Koudou, it's not that difficult to spell.

 

[Mullers]

1. Every club, manager and DOF has signings that didn't work out. The players we;ve bought since Poch took over have collectively helped us have our best ever Prem seasons.

2. I believe the signing of Sanchez is thinking ahead. Within the next 2 seasons I expect Alderweireld to either leave or decline. So rather than having to scramble around for a ready-made replacement we'll be doing what we do best, developing one.

3. Many teams buy late, it's not just us. It's the way the market works.

4. Every team can argue if all their signings were successful they;d win the league. There is no guaranteed formula and the fact we're punching above suggests we're doing pretty well.

5. My understanding iswe have been building an extensive scouting network. We have signed the likes of Alli and Dier very early. It's not easy to buy every Martial before they get to level. The fact we have the youngest team in the Prem suggest we are doing all right in this area.

Of course but that doesn't mean that Poch shouldn't be criticized for his mistakes or we should ignore them.

That's all very well but it's large chunk of our transfer fund if TA doesn't leave or decline, will Sanchez be happy to wait around?
Couldn't we have bought in an attacker this season and a defender the next?

But equally there are also many clubs doing their business early.

Yes we are doing well but that doesn't mean we shouldn't strive to do better and when a club like ours wastes 60 million that has to be examined so that there is less chance of making those mistakes in the future.

I accept it isn't easy but we can do better and I think will have to do better if we want to keep qualifying for the CL and have a serious impact in the CL. As we can't keep up with the spending of richer clubs.

 

[nicdic]

Of course but that doesn't mean that Poch shouldn't be criticized for his mistakes or we should ignore them.

That's all very well but it's large chunk of our transfer fund if TA doesn't leave or decline, will Sanchez be happy to wait around?
Couldn't we have bought in an attacker this season and a defender the next?

But equally there are also many clubs doing their business early.

Yes we are doing well but that doesn't mean we shouldn't strive to do better and when a club like ours wastes 60 million that has to be examined so that there is less chance of making those mistakes in the future.

I accept it isn't easy but we can do better and I think will have to do better if we want to keep qualifying for the CL and have a serious impact in the CL. As we can't keep up with the spending of richer clubs.

How exactly should we have done better?

 

[coy-spurs1882]

Of course but that doesn't mean that Poch shouldn't be criticized for his mistakes or we should ignore them.

That's all very well but it's large chunk of our transfer fund if TA doesn't leave or decline, will Sanchez be happy to wait around?
Couldn't we have bought in an attacker this season and a defender the next?

But equally there are also many clubs doing their business early.

Yes we are doing well but that doesn't mean we shouldn't strive to do better and when a club like ours wastes 60 million that has to be examined so that there is less chance of making those mistakes in the future.

I accept it isn't easy but we can do better and I think will have to do better if we want to keep qualifying for the CL and have a serious impact in the CL. As we can't keep up with the spending of richer clubs.

Verts, Toby and Sanchez would start together so I don't think Sanchez would have to wait, and Sanchez would probably out of our reach if we go for him next season, in that case the club (levy) would be criticized for not getting young talents earlier (again)

 

[Mullers]

How exactly should we have done better?

For example Everton bought Sandro Ramírez for 5.3 million, he's 22, we could obviously afford the fee but Everton got in first.

 

[Archibald Leitch]

For example Everton bought Sandro Ramírez

So? What's he done so far to justify buying him? Scored 15 goals in the PL? He's a punt, just like VJ was. He might work out, he might not.

 

[dontcallme]

Of course but that doesn't mean that Poch shouldn't be criticized for his mistakes or we should ignore them.

That's all very well but it's large chunk of our transfer fund if TA doesn't leave or decline, will Sanchez be happy to wait around?
Couldn't we have bought in an attacker this season and a defender the next?

But equally there are also many clubs doing their business early.

Yes we are doing well but that doesn't mean we shouldn't strive to do better and when a club like ours wastes 60 million that has to be examined so that there is less chance of making those mistakes in the future.

I accept it isn't easy but we can do better and I think will have to do better if we want to keep qualifying for the CL and have a serious impact in the CL. As we can't keep up with the spending of richer clubs.

Sorry your posts are just incoherent rants.

You moan about us not spending then moan when we do.

You want us to buy intelligently and buy the likes of Martial early then criticise us making young signings.

What if Sanchez wasn't available next summer or his price had gone up? You'd be whining that we didn't get in early.

The club is thinking ahead by bringing in these guys early. If we lose players next summer then rather than looking for ready-made replacements we'll have players already here settling in for a season.

No club has 100% record in the transfer market so moaning about "wasting £60m" is nonsense. Why not concentrate on the fact we finished 2nd with the youngest squad in the league.

You never see anything remotely positive in what we do so it is hard to debate you.

 

[dontcallme]

For example Everton bought Sandro Ramírez for 5.3 million, he's 22, we could obviously afford the fee but Everton got in first.

And we got in first with Foyth. What's the difference? Should we be buying every young player?

 

[Styopa]

Signing highly rated players before they become unaffordable or out of reach is something we have done very well at over the last few years. Our first team squad has been assembled for a relative pittance and most of the players would command market values many multiples of the fees we paid for them. And more importantly for us as fans, they have made us genuinely competitive. Whist I have no idea of Steve Hitchin's individual input this window, three of the four signings point to a continuation of this very successful model - how successful they will be time will tell.

 

[Shadydan]

For example Everton bought Sandro Ramírez for 5.3 million, he's 22, we could obviously afford the fee but Everton got in first.

He's on 120k a week, they had to break their wage structure to sign him.

https://royalbluemersey.sbnation.co...laassen-pickford-keane-wages-transfers-latest

 

[Archibald Leitch]

He's on 120k a week

Fucking hell. They've gone completely barking mad.

 

[buttons]

I'm intrigued who we could have bought that is better than Llorente, who is content to sit on the bench behind Kane? Very clever signing in my book.

Sanchez is widely thought of as one of the best centre back prospects around, and he turned down the mega clubs. He isn't coming to sit on the bench.

Aurier is just about the best right back we could realistically have got. I have no doubt that if it wasn't for his legal situation he would have ended up at Manure or Chelsea.

Foyth is exactly the sort of prospect you point out we should be buying.

 

[Mullers]

Sorry your posts are just incoherent rants.

You moan about us not spending then moan when we do.

You want us to buy intelligently and buy the likes of Martial early then criticise us making young signings.

What if Sanchez wasn't available next summer or his price had gone up? You'd be whining that we didn't get in early.

The club is thinking ahead by bringing in these guys early. If we lose players next summer then rather than looking for ready-made replacements we'll have players already here settling in for a season.

No club has 100% record in the transfer market so moaning about "wasting £60m" is nonsense. Why not concentrate on the fact we finished 2nd with the youngest squad in the league.

You never see anything remotely positive in what we do so it is hard to debate you.

I've made criticisms but I haven't ranted. Isn't criticizing allowed here?
I praised the team a lot last season I was happy with the second place.
I wouldn't whine about Sanchez I never expected us to get him.

Why is it a nonsense to talk about wasting 60 million? why is the subject off limits. I talked about us finishing 2nd last season, why can't I talk about this now?

 

[Mullers]

He's on 120k a week, they had to break their wage structure to sign him.

https://royalbluemersey.sbnation.co...laassen-pickford-keane-wages-transfers-latest

I'm sure we wouldn't have had to pay so much for his wages what with the lure of us playing in the CL and our club status.

 

[Mullers]

So? What's he done so far to justify buying him? Scored 15 goals in the PL? He's a punt, just like VJ was. He might work out, he might not.

I think it's a worth while punt at 5 million, low risk, high reward.

 

[Roynie]

And we got in first with Foyth. What's the difference? Should we be buying every young player?

No ..... just the ones other clubs signed!

 

[Archibald Leitch]

Why is it a nonsense to talk about wasting 60 million? why is the subject off limits.

I don't think nonsense is necessarily the right word. Pointless would be better. In any form of recruitment, you are always taking a risk. You have to accept that some transfers won't work out. There is pretty much universal agreement that Sissoko was a weird decision. Other than that, the other players who have not made it so far could just as easily have been the next Eriksen or Dier or Alli.

The subject is not off limits. Now that is nonsense. You are openly discussing it, aren't you?

 

[Archibald Leitch]

I think it's a worth while punt at 5 million, low risk, high reward.

Low risk, guaranteed high wages. Lucky you aren't running things.

 

[Archibald Leitch]

I'm sure we wouldn't have had to pay so much for his wages what with the lure of us playing in the CL and our club status.

If we do really, really well this season we'll have Messi wanting to pay to play for the club.

Sorry, this is getting stupid now. I'm done.