So what`s The hold up Mr Levy??

[HotspurFC1950]

As I've said on other threads Levy is hampered due to the window closing 2 weeks after our season starts and other European Leagues starting after ours. The latter means clubs in those later starting leagues can play their own game of brinkmanship with two weeks more up their sleeve than what Levy has.

On the plus side the two or three games we play before the window closes under pressure situations unlike pre season games helps us be certain of our specific needs.

We had the same situation last year and it wasn't the start that was our ultimate problem but the ending.

I do not see any reason to worry about Lorris as a priority. Friedal did well last season and did not cost us vs Toon. That can wait.

Striker and midfielder of Modrics ilk are.

But you can't do business if the selling clubs don't want to or they want to play the waiting game to the eve of the window closing and as I said clubs on the continent have two extra weeks to play hard ball.

 

[Danny1]

I have to admit that I was frustrated yesterday watching the game and thinking that 2 or 3 new players (a CM a ST and possibly a GK) and we would away with a win or draw! Newcastle away is never easy but we lacked something in the final third and Livermore is definitely not the answer to replacong Modric!

 

[spud]

Imo I doubt very much if we have money available to give Avb so he can make this team his own. In all our recent manager changes they have all been given money to build the squad, With the exception of Jol who had players bought for him, But the point remains that money was given to improve the squad, Juande had it and so did Harry and yet here we are into the new season and once again we are poorly prepared and once again a first day defeat. I know I am being a little pre-emptive here as we still have 2 weeks before the window shuts, But who really thinks that we will get Leandro,Ade,Mouts,Lloris or even Llorente??

This is true, and - if we don't buy any other players before the window closes - many will argue that AVB will be denied the tools given to his predecessors. But it isn't that simple.

Think about where we were when Santini was appointed and Arneson started buying players seemingly every other day. What players were we buying? How good were they? If we were to start buying those players again, this and other forums really would 'melt down'. We were starting from a much lower base back then, and the pool of players who would improve us was relatively large. This has changed over the years, and even in the last four since Redknapp was appointed. A signing of a player of the level of Peter Crouch is almost unthinkable, and we would scoff at Palacios - who was, for at least half a season, our most important player. Would any Spurs fan really be pleased if we bought Stephen Fletcher?

We have moved on. There is no point in buying players for the sake of it. The calibre of player that we need to improve our squad and team is higher than it has been for decades, and this level of player is in short supply. They - the players - have the power; they can largely choose who they play for. When you add the fact that the selling clubs and agents know this, then the buying club is at a disadvantage. Particularly a buying club which has had no recent history of success, has been living in the shadow of its neighbour, and can't guarantee CL football. That disadvantage is made more acute when transfer fees and players' wages have been inflated by the nouveau riche. We are simply not as attractive to players as some other clubs; so we invest in a new training complex (and stadium) to increase our appeal, and appoint a manager with more 'pull' with players than the last one. And we try to get them to come to us.

If we don't try to buy players of the calibre of Llorente and Moutinho we will be settling for second best. I believe that the ambition of the club is higher than that. So we apparently try for these players. There are no doubt many reasons why we don't usually succeed - not least of which is the number of people (each with their own agendas) directly or indirectly involved in the process. But we have to try; because one success could make the difference to short-term success on the pitch and longer-term continued success for the club. If we sign Llorente (for example) it might send a message, and others could follow - especially if we start to win trophies.

You might be right, mrlilywhite; the fact that we don't sign Torres or Aguero could simply be that we don't have the cash. I suspect that it is more complicated than that. While financial constraints are obviously a significant part of the reason, they are certainly not the whole story.

 

[luptic]

im confident that we will sign adebayor, but yesterday comments from avb worry me. If all we need is a striker, with modric going we wont do anything like we did last season. We dont have a player that could lace modric boots in terms of what he does for us. And without that sort of player we will suffer from a lack of goals. Id rather have levy buy adebayor for next to nothing, and sign someone like moutinho.

that said after yesterday match i thought we were the better side and were unfortunate to lose that match, but worries me is that we we lacked ideas to change it through the subs we have, they were going to be able to change anything.

finally with the missing players yesterday and why vertonghen wasnt playing, maybe avb has learnt that any changes to the starting XI need to be a gradual change, so maybe he didnt want to change it too much, but over the weeks and months we will see these changes. Gallas aint going to play every game, and maybe dawson and huddlestone need to adjust to the pressing system that avb has set us up doing, it will be interesting over the next few weeks and months, but i hope LEVY and us as the fans give him the time he needs, and understand if progress isnt made, its because someone is reluctantly giving him the resoruces he needs to be a success, you cant have a bench with kane, townsend, jenas on it , and expect the team to have a successful season.

 

[jayfletc]

Is that the same Uruguayan player that might be about to sign for Southampton? If so we are now getting gazumped by Southampton on transfers? The Soldado story don't have leg`s either imo because if the money is there then it should be spent by now. Simple fact about money, When you need something and you have money then that allows you to buy it when you need it, If you don't have money and you need something then you go with-out until such time that you have the money. I think that investment is being poured into the stadium and naff all else really.

Yea thats the lad, we didnt meet his wage demands apparently. And Soldado just didnt want to leave Spain, something to do with it being his home town. Not that hard to believe really, life in Spain over life in England. I agree if the moneys there it'll be spent, which it will do when we find a player who will move for the wages we offer which is obviously the stumbling block.

 

[shelfmonkey]

Unless you have been stationed on Mars for the past couple of years, Then you would of noticed that ever since we ditched our ill fated director of football approach that our transfer activity has slowly grinded to a cumbersome and somewhat frustrating halt, It seems gone are the day`s where we were snapping up young players like Modric before the window had opened and now we wait with anxiety till the end of the transfer window to see who Mr levy has snarled for 2 bob, Fuelled on by his capture of VDV for a small and tidy sum.

It used to be spend,spend and more spend, I remember thinking "where is all this dough coming from?" Now it seems as if the well has dried up and one has to wonder if we really have a pot to piss in (do we Mr Levy?). When AVB comes out and say`s that basically the Modric money is going on a striker and seemingly nowt else it makes me feel a little crushed. I mean if we knew that we did not have money then it`s a case of oh well it is what it is, But Levy is parading us around like we have a few bob, Comments like "We don`t need to sell our star players" And Modric aint for sale for any money (unless you are Real Madrid and you want to give me £26 million plus add on`s).

Imo I doubt very much if we have money available to give Avb so he can make this team his own. In all our recent manager changes they have all been given money to build the squad, With the exception of Jol who had players bought for him, But the point remains that money was given to improve the squad, Juande had it and so did Harry and yet here we are into the new season and once again we are poorly prepared and once again a first day defeat. I know I am being a little pre-emptive here as we still have 2 weeks before the window shuts, But who really thinks that we will get Leandro,Ade,Mouts,Lloris or even Llorente?? I think we will secure the signing of Ade and that will be it and we would of given our most talented manager fuck all to work with money wise!! How very Tottenham Hotspur of us....One step fwd and a big leap back!

This was supposed to be the season that we grew up and really put our cards on the table and showed that we were moving away from Harry and his triffic 4-4-2 and what do we do give the job to someone who has a point to prove and a manager who could really take us somewhere and then we tie his hands behind his back....Come on Levy prove me wrong....Please!!

Before I agree with all that I'm going to wait until Sept 1st and see what we've got, but I will agree now about this bullshit policy of leaving everything to the last minute!!

 

[dimiSpur]

The fact is we haven't yet permanently replaced Berbatov and Keane, and it's been years now.

 

[chavkev]

I just don't think that Tottenham have the money to splurge on top players. Modric is key to everything and getting a higher price will give us more to play with. Perhaps the club already have a couple of players lined up and a figure for the two transfers (+ signing on fees) in mind? That would make getting as much money for Modric as possible crucial for our future plans.

We have a new training ground, we are starting on a new ground. Major projects like these suck money out of the budget. I would like to see things move quicker, but not at the cost of over-extending ourselves. The banks are not as forgiving as they used to be, maybe there is less room for manoeuvre right now.

 

[Dezzydez]

Ade has dragged on so long now, it must be a bit unsettling for the team. When Ba scored yesterday I just thought why didn't we go in and prise him from Toons this summer. He is exactly what we need. Has the technical a ability and likes to score and play provider.

 

[StartingPrice]

If some folk are to be believed, the hold-up with Modric is that the odious little rat apparently thinks he should get his loyalty bonus and Levy doesn't.

My feeling on this is that Levy is FECKING right. Little ! We desperately don't want to sell him, he kicks up a stink for the second season running, acting in a way to try to force us to accept a deliberately low-ball offer and lose out on millions for the second season running, he refuses to train, he refuses to go on a pre-season tour, he refuses to play in our first game (where we clearly needed him or someone else for that role), and he wants a facking loyalty bonus. Feck off! !

Carry on with the hold-up on this one Mr Levy Back to Plan B...ruin the little s career

 

[Evolution]

Michael owen on a free, adeybayor, defoe and kane to complete our strikeforce.

Would u be happy with that??

 

[am_yisrael_chai]

Ade has dragged on so long now, it must be a bit unsettling for the team. When Ba scored yesterday I just thought why didn't we go in and prise him from Toons this summer. He is exactly what we need. Has the technical a ability and likes to score and play provider.

Did you really ? I thought both Ba and Cisse were in the pockets of Gallas/Kaboul and were limited to the goal, Defoe was more impactful on the game than either of them. I'm not saying Defoe is the answer but I think as fans we suffer from grass is greener syndrome.

 

[StartingPrice]

Did you really ? I thought both Ba and Cisse were in the pockets of Gallas/Kaboul and were limited to the goal, Defoe was more impactful on the game than either of them. I'm not saying Defoe is the answer but I think as fans we suffer from grass is greener syndrome.

Sure would have been looking at claims like this differently if either or both of our first half efforts that hit the woodwork had gone in - but, the game in the second half would have panned out differently, in any case.

 

[HotspurFC1950]

Before I agree with all that I'm going to wait until Sept 1st and see what we've got, but I will agree now about this bullshit policy of leaving everything to the last minute!!

It is not policy. It is the way it is with this transfer window business. It's a game played by scores of clubs and it's not something we can do much about as we don't control it. We did Sigs and Verts early on so obviously we do it early when we can.

 

[double0]

Ba no thanks Adebayor yes please... Ade wants his money and City are the ones pushing him out in reality. Modric whats a pay off its been speculated and is the one pushing for a move...footballers they really make you laugh, the key is not to get to attached. easier said than done.

 

[NEVILLEB]

Poor old AVB telling the players we Must aim to win the league. What chance has he got when we always start the season in transfer chaos.

 

[jj87]

Not replacing Modric will represent a major step back, there is no way that it couldnt. We needed 2 centre forwards and a winger as well even without losing Luka.

As time goes on I think we are really going to regret not finishing 3rd last year.

 

[HotspurFC1950]

It's interesting that there are not Club's falling over themselves to sign Modric. Only one club last year and one this year. And that's if all this Real Madrid talk is true too.

 

[PT]

It's interesting that there are not Club's falling over themselves to sign Modric. Only one club last year and one this year. And that's if all this Real Madrid talk is true too.

My take on this is that Levy has told Modric he will only be sold if it is to a club abroad and not a direct competitor, which rules out the three usual suspects in this country.

 

[PT]

Michael owen on a free, adeybayor, defoe and kane to complete our strikeforce.

Would u be happy with that??

Owen won't go south of Villa / Stoke I guess, because of his racing stables commitments.