Spurs to bid again for Berahino

[spursintheblood]

Why does everyone keep mentioning price like its there money? I don't care what a player costs as long as they are quality and we get them! We may spend 20 mill on Berahino and another 20 mill on a midfielder. Or we may spend 15 mill on Berahino and buy no one else. It's about the quality you have in your squad, not how much you buy them for

The problem is that even though we are talking about the money that the club operates with and can dissociate it from ticket costs etc (our money), if the club was to spend too much on fees and salaries then we risk doing a Leeds/Rangers/Portsmouth. Take your pick. One indisputable thing that has been consistently very good from Levy has been the financial stewardship of our club. Allowing us to get to the point where we have one of the best training grounds in the world and are just about to spend 3/4 of a billion pounds sterling on a new development project for Tottenham, where we will get the best, most modern stadium in the world.

It is not as if we have not spent in the market big over the last few seasons, sometime wisely or not. We have a brilliant young manager who already deserves a really big contract renewal if you ask me, with a huge release clause. The team is purring like a well oiled high performance engine and we are revving up to a consistent level of performance.

It may not be "our" money, but I would rather Spurs spent well. To do other risks the club.

 

[philbanger]

Why does everyone keep mentioning price like its there money? I don't care what a player costs as long as they are quality and we get them! We may spend 20 mill on Berahino and another 20 mill on a midfielder. Or we may spend 15 mill on Berahino and buy no one else. It's about the quality you have in your squad, not how much you buy them for

Leeds fans said the same thing around 1999

 

[bigspurs]

Leeds fans said the same thing around 1999

Yeah, but our owner Joe Lewis is the third or fourth richest chairman in the league. So who gives a shit if it's £10m, £20m or £30m, he can afford it!

Anyway, we failed to build quality-wise when we first qualified for the Champs League, so surely Lewis can see that strengthening now is vital in order for the club to reach its potential. Otherwise it's all been a massive waste of his effort over the last ten years.

 

[millsey]

Leeds fans said the same thing around 1999

Fuck me

 

[millsey]

Yeah, but our owner Joe Lewis is the third or fourth richest chairman in the league. So who gives a shit if it's £10m, £20m or £30m, he can afford it!

Anyway, we failed to build quality-wise when we first qualified for the Champs League, so surely Lewis can see that strengthening now is vital in order for the club to reach its potential. Otherwise it's all been a massive waste of his effort over the last ten years.

Exactly. Levy out, show some ambition, then you get this crap. We get 100 million next year if we finish last in the table. People have become accountants in recent years

 

[Locotoro]

Serious attitude in what way, you must know personally.
He doesn't want to play for WBA anymore that's his problem,
Pulis or WBA cant do anything more for his development.

If he's being paid a King's ransom to perform to the best of his ability and then not putting in a shift that would indicate he is unprofessional.

As Poch's Spurs is all about work rate, discipline and professionalism I would deem him unsuitable. If Pulis can't get him to work hard why would anyone think him suitable

 

[Bilko]

I just don't agree with the idea his attitude is suspect.
There are reasons for the downward spiral and they are not all of his making. Okay things became complicated, and he threw his toys, but
he is a young guy with a lot of ambition and was desperate to play for Spurs.
If Pochettino is still in for him he will believe in his own judgement of the young mans temperament.

 

[ginola007]

I just don't agree with the idea his attitude is suspect.
There are reasons for the downward spiral and they are not all of his making. Okay things became complicated, and he threw his toys, but
he is a young guy with a lot of ambition and was desperate to play for Spurs.
If Pochettino is still in for him he will believe in his own judgement of the young mans temperament.

Exactly. Modric and Bale wanted out, and they didn't do badly at RM.

 

[slartibartfast]

I just don't agree with the idea his attitude is suspect.
There are reasons for the downward spiral and they are not all of his making. Okay things became complicated, and he threw his toys, but
he is a young guy with a lot of ambition and was desperate to play for Spurs.
If Pochettino is still in for him he will believe in his own judgement of the young mans temperament.

I'm stating the obvious here but he was not desperate to play for Spurs.
He was desperate for his big money move and we were the biggest offer on the table.
And should he come to us and another big offer comes in he may well throw his toys out the pram again.
He may not. He's young and his agent is a full on bellend who offers no guidance just bad advice.
Not for me Clive.

 

[Bilko]

I'm stating the obvious here but he was not desperate to play for Spurs.
He was desperate for his big money move and we were the biggest offer on the table.
And should he come to us and another big offer comes in he may well throw his toys out the pram again.
He may not. He's young and his agent is a full on bellend who offers no guidance just bad advice.
Not for me Clive.

Like I wrote- Pochettino will be the judge.
You also mentioned other influences affecting his character-exactly.
I believe he will be a good signing for the right money

 

[kaz Hirai]

Pick him up in the summer when he's free, teach that idiot wb chairmen to down great money even if it was installments

 

[IGSpur]

Why does everyone keep mentioning price like its there money? I don't care what a player costs as long as they are quality and we get them! We may spend 20 mill on Berahino and another 20 mill on a midfielder. Or we may spend 15 mill on Berahino and buy no one else. It's about the quality you have in your squad, not how much you buy them for

Other than the reasons mentioned the size of the price can affect the how much pressure the player is under and therefore performances. Large price more pressure to make an impact maybe negative performances low price low expectancy so less pressure. Price also affects fans perceptions sadly. If someone is bought for large money, people want and expect to see something showing that value. If fans turn or media start questioning that again will affect performances.

If a players does badly and we bought for a low price and low wages they will be easier to shift allowing us to rectify our mistake. If they are a large price we will hold onto to get as much as we paid as possible meaning we will struggle to sell before we buy. Similar with wages.

Lastly, with the way we operate, it's very strict. If us spending a lot of money in one position affects another then I'd rather balance it out if I think a cheaper player could perform equally as good.

 

[Shadydan]

Pick him up in the summer when he's free, teach that idiot wb chairmen to down great money even if it was installments

He won't be free until summer 2017

 

[ebzrascal]

If there's any truth in it, i'd take Negredo over him any day of the week. As @jenko said, i think Berahino could become trouble not unlike Ade.

The Same Negrado that forced a move back to Spain because he was homesick give me a break!! Berahino wants to play for us and he was very disappointed... Pulis plays wanted the money and told him he could go and the WBA chairman being difficult. HE probably knows his main chance of playing in the Euros is to come to Spurs and play with Kane. Even Pulis has said he is has got on with training etc but the summer speculation has taken the edge off him.. maybe he is just human but I don`t think he is another Adebayor.

 

[ebzrascal]

Other than the reasons mentioned the size of the price can affect the how much pressure the player is under and therefore performances. Large price more pressure to make an impact maybe negative performances low price low expectancy so less pressure. Price also affects fans perceptions sadly. If someone is bought for large money, people want and expect to see something showing that value. If fans turn or media start questioning that again will affect performances.

If a players does badly and we bought for a low price and low wages they will be easier to shift allowing us to rectify our mistake. If they are a large price we will hold onto to get as much as we paid as possible meaning we will struggle to sell before we buy. Similar with wages.

Lastly, with the way we operate, it's very strict. If us spending a lot of money in one position affects another then I'd rather balance it out if I think a cheaper player could perform equally as good.

Stop worring about the money we will not go bankrupt!!

We need quality especially in forward positions and actually I would like more than one striker if possible as I think we should have three strikers to cover injuries, loss of form and for competition etc..

 

[Gaz_Gammon]

The Same Negrado that forced a move back to Spain because he was homesick give me a break!! Berahino wants to play for us and he was very disappointed... Pulis plays wanted the money and told him he could go and the WBA chairman being difficult. HE probably knows his main chance of playing in the Euros is to come to Spurs and play with Kane. Even Pulis has said he is has got on with training etc but the summer speculation has taken the edge off him.. maybe he is just human but I don`t think he is another Adebayor.

If you read my post, i said IF THERE IS ANY TRUTH IN IT

Perhaps you need read posts correctly before trying to be cute. Berahino can't even get into the WBA side, and will never be fit enough to hit the ground running come January even if we did buy him. Unsettling influence as far as i am concerned, very similar to Ade.

 

[ebzrascal]

Look you obviously believe the negative things said about him otherwise why bring it up for the millionth time!! We both don't know the guy unless you tell me otherwise.. I am sure the club has spoken to our young players who have played with him over a number of years in some cases for England. They must have given good reports on his character or I just don't think we would be pursuing him..

 

[yankspurs]

Exactly. Levy out, show some ambition, then you get this crap. We get 100 million next year if we finish last in the table. People have become accountants in recent years

We have a £750m stadium to finance. We still have a long term debt of approx. £30m that will only rise due to the stadium. Add in all the current operating costs and the stand that is being built at the training ground for fans to watch the youth games. Please, if you're going to comment on price and what the club should pay, then have an understanding of the clubs finances and current and future liabilities. The rise of tv money allows us to pay off the stadium quicker which will enable us to use the added revenue in the transfer market sooner rather than later. Arsenal took about 10 years after the Emirates was built to spend alot of money as they were paying off the stadium. It shouldnt take us nearly as long because we now have a vastly increased revenue stream due to the huge jump in tv money that will be a huge help in paying off the stadium.

Is paying £30m for a player going to risk the clubs future? No. But you dont want to overpay for a player and be held to ransom thats about double what a player is actually worth as it could have a detrimental effect to future buys as clubs will see we are willing to spend whatever it takes to get a player. We should only be spending £30m on a player of real quality who will walk into the first XI. Berahino is not that type of player and would be brought as a backup to Kane. You dont get any type of value in spending £30m for a player to sit behind Kane.

 

[Gaz_Gammon]

Look you obviously believe the negative things said about him otherwise why bring it up for the millionth time!! We both don't know the guy unless you tell me otherwise.. I am sure the club has spoken to our young players who have played with him over a number of years in some cases for England. They must have given good reports on his character or I just don't think we would be pursuing him..

I don't know Ade but anyone with half an ounce of sense can could see just why Wenger jumped at the chance when Citeh offered serious dosh for him. Berahino is a good player, nothing more nothing less and has had one decent season not unlike Vardy. Over the last forty years i have seen plenty of Carlos Kick-A-Balls come and go at WHL and i just don't think he'd be a good fit in this side. You do and i respect your opinion but it does not mean that i agree with it.

 

[ebzrascal]

I don't know Ade but anyone with half an ounce of sense can could see just why Wenger jumped at the chance when Citeh offered serious dosh for him. Berahino is a good player, nothing more nothing less and has had one decent season not unlike Vardy. Over the last forty years i have seen plenty of Carlos Kick-A-Balls come and go at WHL and i just don't think he'd be a good fit in this side. You do and i respect your opinion but it does not mean that i agree with it.

I just say we need a Striker of that type ie with pace to run in behind. I think Berahino would do a good job for us and I like that he is desperate to play for us. But I see your point there is an element of risk