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Match Threads Spurs vs Man Utd - Match Thread - Day 31

Match Prediction

  • A Spurs Win

    Votes: 40 18.7%
  • A spurs Defeat

    Votes: 142 66.4%
  • Score Draw (coming from behind)

    Votes: 10 4.7%
  • Score Draw (after leading)

    Votes: 22 10.3%
  • Goalless Draw

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    214

curlacious

Don’t look at me. I’m irrelevant.
Aug 29, 2017
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Jose was gamble pure and simple, technically one of the most decorated managers of recent times ... generates the media and commercial profile / interest of the club more globally, ability to attract potentially better / bigger name players.... It was a gamble 50/50 he was either gonna be great and bring back his own glory days or he was gonna fudge up hard and destroy things like he was at UTD ... however we all new he would negatively screw club internally etc ... but we thought hed probally win a cup and maintain us top 4 and CL before axing him .. best option on paper to help stablise the club but no long term i.e. max 3 years before he is offski
yes Levy was lured by his profile and his ability to build the club‘s brand globally and generate more revenue. Regardless of results we’ve benefited from that off the pitch.
 

greaves

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Dec 6, 2006
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I don't see how they pick themselves up after this.
West Ham, Liverpool and Chelsea win. We lose. And direct competition for Europa spot up next.

Down in flames is the only way I see it.

Still, it's just football.

(Flamin football)
 

Lifelong

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Aug 22, 2013
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Let’s face it hiring mourinho who’d won something at every club he’d been at...no brainer...and we have said this on so many times....hello Dr Tottenham.....you really couldn’t make it up...1billion pound stadium.....go into lockdown no revenue.....hello I’m calling again....unbelievable...or is it...
 

rossdapep

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Aug 25, 2011
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We should have got Allegri.

We'd have the pragmatism but he'd have kept players on side and he'd definitely have made more inspirational/strategic subs.

He'd have used Bale effectively and wouldn't have sapped the life out of some players.

We'd have got top 4 with him, I'm certain.
 

Saoirse

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Aug 20, 2013
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We should have got Allegri.

We'd have the pragmatism but he'd have kept players on side and he'd definitely have made more inspirational/strategic subs.

He'd have used Bale effectively and wouldn't have sapped the life out of some players.

We'd have got top 4 with him, I'm certain.
I'm not sure I've ever seen a side secure 4th with a rotating cast of inept defenders. We simply do not have the quality at CB which is one of the most crucial positions on the pitch.
 

Barrd10

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Aug 25, 2013
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You can blame Levy, that's perfectly legitimate! But just to be clear then, you think Levy should have spent less money on a manager for the football side of the club, not more? Because that's the bit I thought was a huge contradiction.
No I think the should have brought in the right manager. He didn’t he brought in Jose. It wasn’t cheap and it was a poor decision. So he finally committed to spending a lot of money and got it wrong. That’s why he should be held accountable. He has been poorly prudent and then terribly wasteful - at a time when you should be prudent.
 

Barrd10

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Aug 25, 2013
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I'm not sure I've ever seen a side secure 4th with a rotating cast of inept defenders. We simply do not have the quality at CB which is one of the most crucial positions on the pitch.
City did for loads of times. Then they bought the best and then went on to win loads.
 

Saoirse

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Aug 20, 2013
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No I think the should have brought in the right manager. He didn’t he brought in Jose. It wasn’t cheap and it was a poor decision. So he finally committed to spending a lot of money and got it wrong. That’s why he should be held accountable. He has been poorly prudent and then terribly wasteful - at a time when you should be prudent.
Levy didn't spend enough money, and then should have been prudent and wasted less money. Got it, thanks!
 

rossdapep

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Aug 25, 2011
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I'm not sure I've ever seen a side secure 4th with a rotating cast of inept defenders. We simply do not have the quality at CB which is one of the most crucial positions on the pitch.
Allegri would have got them more focused and better organised. He wouldn't have hammered them after mistakes nor dropped them and destroyed their confidnece. He would have given them a system that negates their weaknesses.

You think Maguire and Lindelof are much better than what we have?

Aurier and Reguillon are two very capable full backs.

Our defence isn't great but Jose is making it look a fuck ton worse than it is by taking away their confidnece and not allowing them to build up any partnerships.
 

ardiles

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Nov 24, 2006
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Why we our best players want to stay.

Why not? There are still a lot of top players in the squad. We just need to cull the underperforming players as well as Jose, and get in a few better players in certain positions.

It’s not as if we’re a club struggling to survive relegation.
 

JUSTINSIGNAL

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Jul 10, 2008
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It’s weird. I didn’t even think we were that bad - certainly much better than last weekend. Our defence were just always gonna give up chances. It’s just the way it is right now. I really don’t think it would be different no matter who’s in charge.
 

Barrd10

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Aug 25, 2013
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Levy didn't spend enough money, and then should have been prudent and wasted less money. Got it, thanks!
Levi has literally spent billions but on the things he thinks are important and the team wasn’t one of them. Now he has spent money on the team he has got it very wrong.
 

Shadydan

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Jul 7, 2012
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We should have got Allegri.

We'd have the pragmatism but he'd have kept players on side and he'd definitely have made more inspirational/strategic subs.

He'd have used Bale effectively and wouldn't have sapped the life out of some players.

We'd have got top 4 with him, I'm certain.

Meh, shoulda, woulda, coulda
 

Saoirse

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Aug 20, 2013
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Allegri would have got them more focused and better organised. He wouldn't have hammered them after mistakes nor dropped them and destroyed their confidnece. He would have given them a system that negates their weaknesses.

You think Maguire and Lindelof are much better than what we have?

Aurier and Reguillon are two very capable full backs.

Our defence isn't great but Jose is making it look a fuck ton worse than it is by taking away their confidnece and not allowing them to build up any partnerships.
Maguire and Lindelof are streets ahead unfortunately. Toby's too far gone to start every game and form a stable partnership, Dier is okay and at a Lindelof-ish level but would have to have been partnered with either Sanchez (sadly not great) or a very young, inexperienced player.
 
Aug 9, 2008
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No I think the should have brought in the right manager. He didn’t he brought in Jose. It wasn’t cheap and it was a poor decision. So he finally committed to spending a lot of money and got it wrong. That’s why he should be held accountable. He has been poorly prudent and then terribly wasteful - at a time when you should be prudent.

It was a calculated risk, not entirely a poor decision but a risk with positives and negatives, hoping for the former
 

UbeAstard

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May 31, 2005
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No I think the should have brought in the right manager. He didn’t he brought in Jose. It wasn’t cheap and it was a poor decision. So he finally committed to spending a lot of money and got it wrong. That’s why he should be held accountable. He has been poorly prudent and then terribly wasteful - at a time when you should be prudent.

Who is your right manager then? There were a lot of arguements that this one was right.
 

stormfly

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Dec 6, 2006
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Do people genuinely think if Poch stayed or a different manager was in charge that this squad would be doing better?
I'm assuming yes, based on the Jose hate but intrigued. Genuine question.

Not a chance, this slide had been coming for a while. Had to watch some proper dross in the last year of Poch and it was sad to see. We would have possession stats of 80% but nothing would happen. Let’s not forget the bloody diamond experiment either! TBF Poch knew there had to be a rebuild but I think Levy has only just realised he was right about 3 months ago.
 

Barrd10

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Aug 25, 2013
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It was a calculated risk, not entirely a poor decision but a risk with positives and negatives, hoping for the former
But it was a poor decision. Also one that wouldn’t go down with a lot of Spurs fans. Its like he couldn’t care how the paying fans would feel. How do you feel the last couple for seasons have gone? Are you happy?
 
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