Match Threads Spurs Vs Olympique de Marseille

[Gassin's finest]

I don't think there was much of an issue with the stewarding mate, in the grand scheme beyond a few plastic bottles being thrown it was contained pretty well, from the vids I've seen. As has been said there were a few idiots on our side that were clearly trying to escalate things, but they will be easily identified and banned I would imagine. Can't see us facing too much of an issue as a club especially if we publicly punish those to blame from our side.

The level above was raining litter down on the away fans during the fracas. I saw plenty of our "fans" chucking stuff. But that was after the Marseille fans had thrown the flare into the crowd.

But I agree it wasn't an issue with stewarding. The away fans lost their minds after the second goal. One of their stewards actually attacked one of ours from what I saw, which caused a commotion, but the riot police were there in seconds. It all left an unpleasant taste in the mouth, but if the club get asked any questions then it should just be about how a flare got into the ground.

Could see plenty of stuff being thrown the other way as well. And what was the lardy Spurs lad thinking climbing over the railing, do these fuckwits not understand they are literally watched from every possible angle on CCTV?

I think I remember seeing him. The one where one of our stewards immediately rounded on him and fucked him off back over the railing?

 

[Aphex]

It's one thing us sitting deep, conserving energy and springing quick breaks, though it may not be great football to watch most of the time.

But it's the terrible passing, touches and the rest of it which has been in evidence this season which is more of an issue. When some of us say poor performance, it's not neccesarily the style of play, it's just so many of our players not being able to control a football and keep possession.

Personally my view of it is that the squad generally are in quite poor form. Kane is off form. Son is terrible. I don't think Romero is playing particularly well at the moment. Kane and Son recycle possession far too much at the moment and it's making us suffer.

The bonus is we clearly don't give up many chances at all, we look a really solid outfit and that gives us a great basis to build from. We are still winning games and getting results, so hopefully when it all clicks we should be good. But last night it was really poor on the ball. It's been like that far too much this season.

 

[JCRD]

It's one thing us sitting deep, conserving energy and springing quick breaks, though it may not be great football to watch most of the time.

But it's the terrible passing, touches and the rest of it which has been in evidence this season which is more of an issue. When some of us say poor performance, it's not neccesarily the style of play, it's just so many of our players not being able to control a football and keep possession.

Personally my view of it is that the squad generally are in quite poor form. Kane is off form. Son is terrible. I don't think Romero is playing particularly well at the moment. Kane and Son recycle possession far too much at the moment and it's making us suffer.

The bonus is we clearly don't give up many chances at all, we look a really solid outfit and that gives us a great basis to build from. We are still winning games and getting results, so hopefully when it all clicks we should be good. But last night it was really poor on the ball. It's been like that far too much this season.

It is interesting the different perspectives there are on our football. Some say we havent played badly and they cite the fact the opposition hasnt created. Some look at it from the perspective of how many chances we are creating. Im definitely the latter, my yard stick is whether we are going out to win the game and not going out not to lose the game.

 

[Gassin's finest]

I don't think we were that bad at all tbh. Yes we rushed things in possession, especially with the one touch flicks etc. But we clearly let them have the ball, because we were so structured, disciplined and communicative out of possession. You could see each player get into a set position, with clear communication on who to cover, when to press, what their job was. We worked, to a man, as a team for each other, and it was impressive. I recall only two moments in the first half where we were nearly caught out, due to an unforced error... but we recovered each time because everyone felt that responsibility to do so.

So no, it's not front foot, possession football. But its damn good team work, and the ethic is palpable. Which is not the same as Jose's ultra low block, where everyone was just afraid of making a mistake, and the motivation was sucked out of everything.

The attack side is going to click eventually. We saw it starting to in the final 15 mins. And we're going to batter somebody soon.

I'm not discouraged.

 

[Lumiere]

Why does Kane have to look like a school kid meeting his favourite rapper??

Nice to see Brad Friedel make an apperance as well

 

[cusop]

Tough game, but OM really did not create much, and we also had to navigate around a difficult referee, I know if we have a run of negative results, the "we are not playing the tottenham way" brigade will be baying for blood. Its a false pressure as Conte has not yet been able to deliver on the plan yet, which may take several years.

 

[jurgen11]

Tough game, but OM really did not create much, and we also had to navigate around a difficult referee, I know if we have a run of negative results, the "we are not playing the tottenham way" brigade will be baying for blood. Its a false pressure as Conte has not yet been able to deliver on the plan yet, which may take several years.

the Tottenham way was not winning games like that

 

[Stuart Leathercock]

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Like a really shite boy band

 

[Russ1201]

We've had warning from UEFA before about or stewarding not being good enough. I doubt they will be too happy about last night.

Didn't realise that, a fine could be coming and a game behind closed doors fs stupid minority ruining it for the real fans.

 

[C0YS]

You could tell from the post match interviews that Conte was keen to drill into our players that Marseille were a very good team worthy of respect.

I think the first thing that came out of Conte, Kane and Perisic's mouth was a comment praising Marseille. I get the impression Conte really wanted to make sure we didn't go into this game complacent simply because they are the pot 4 team in the group.

Maybe we paid them a bit too much respect if anything, but given how we've done in Europe in recent years I don't think we can be too picky about how we get our wins.

Their not really a pot 4 team though, they are good enough to be pot 3 or even 2.

Its a repeating topic we sit to deep, there are huge gaps between the midfield and the forward line and as a result we can't build up meaningful possession of the football. Its ok playing on the break and inviting sides on but we need to keep the ball better and press with a bit more intensity and that doesn't mean pushing on and trying to win the ball back early every time we aren't that side but when Conte first arrived you could see that he was effectively setting traps with triggers to push that at the moment is negated because we drop of so deep

They were an alright side nothing more , but we played with no intensity it was to easy for them, the long haired failed ex Arsenal player we made him look capable as there is no pressure on the ball he was probably the best player on the pitch in the first half. The sending off won us the game I thought our midfield players were poor last night but they are being asked to do one hell of a job in every game and I think that rotation in that area might be key in the coming weeks - I would certainly have got Skipp on the pitch at some point last night

Gendouzi is capablable more than capable. He is a regular international and is one of Marseilles best players. The fact that Arsenal let go of him as a 20 year old still developing doesn't make him not an excellent player now.

 

[Timberwolf]

Their not really a pot 4 team though, they are good enough to be pot 3 or even 2.

Gendouzi is capablable mora than capable. He is a regular international and is one of Marseilles best players. The fact that Arsenal let go of him as a 20 year old still developing doesn't make him not an excellent player now.

Yeah that's the point I was essentially making. He didn't want our players to get complacent because it was a 'pot 4' team because in reality they're a very capable side.

 

[C0YS]

It's one thing us sitting deep, conserving energy and springing quick breaks, though it may not be great football to watch most of the time.

But it's the terrible passing, touches and the rest of it which has been in evidence this season which is more of an issue. When some of us say poor performance, it's not neccesarily the style of play, it's just so many of our players not being able to control a football and keep possession.

Personally my view of it is that the squad generally are in quite poor form. Kane is off form. Son is terrible. I don't think Romero is playing particularly well at the moment. Kane and Son recycle possession far too much at the moment and it's making us suffer.

The bonus is we clearly don't give up many chances at all, we look a really solid outfit and that gives us a great basis to build from. We are still winning games and getting results, so hopefully when it all clicks we should be good. But last night it was really poor on the ball. It's been like that far too much this season.

We are trying to move the ball quickly into space. That's how Conte teams play. At the moment players aren't finding each other. It's not quite working, but when it works it is perfectly fine to watch.

For what it's worth I don't get how Kane is off form. He's scored 5 goals in 7, what exactly are people expecting?

 

[aliyid]

Tough game, but OM really did not create much, and we also had to navigate around a difficult referee, I know if we have a run of negative results, the "we are not playing the tottenham way" brigade will be baying for blood. Its a false pressure as Conte has not yet been able to deliver on the plan yet, which may take several years.

First time I've seen that mentioned but yes yes yes... my god he was so bad and fell for every tiny little thing the Marseille players we're falling over for.

We even had to check his nationality at one point to see what league he came from (Slovenian league). Couldn't believe he reffed the Europa league final last year

 

[worcestersauce]

Yeah that's the point I was essentially making. He didn't want our players to get complacent because it was a 'pot 4' team because in reality they're a very capable side.

Seems daft to think Marseille are pot 4 and Frankfurt are pot 1.

 

[Aphex]

We are trying to move the ball quickly into space. That's how Conte teams play. At the moment players aren't finding each other. It's not quite working, but when it works it is perfectly fine to watch.

For what it's worth I don't get how Kane is off form. He's scored 5 goals in 7, what exactly are people expecting?

I don't think Kane is in good form. You have to look passed just his goals. Honestly you've watched Kane this season and think he's playing well? Not for me.

He had a few chances yesterday and fluffed them. His goal against Forest was scuffed. Missed a penalty. Scored a tap in against Fulham. Wow. By his own standards he's not playing well. I think both him and Son are out of form but Son is by far the worst, he's been horrendous.

 

[Bluto Blutarsky]

but Son is by far the worst, he's been horrendous.

I think that is a fair observation - but, its also worth pointing out, that Son's play effectively won the game for us last night. His run, and pace, caused the red card, without which, I am not sure we win.

So, yes, he has struggled all year, but he still has skills and attributes that can help us win.

 

[Serpico]

I don't think we were getting on top just reacting from a poor first half, we still hadn't worked their keeper when he was sent off

Yes you’re right - We were starting to build pressure -let’s not forget son was highly likely to score but was taken out we were getting on top. For me at no point did I ever feel we were going to lose.

 

[Aphex]

I think that is a fair observation - but, its also worth pointing out, that Son's play effectively won the game for us last night. His run, and pace, caused the red card, without which, I am not sure we win.

So, yes, he has struggled all year, but he still has skills and attributes that can help us win.

Honestly for me I can’t say that him running fast in a straight line for that sending off is enough for a place in the team at the moment.

He was terrible last night not withstanding the run, he just gives up possession and every time he got the ball he lost it. Richie and Kulu deserve a start over him, no doubt about it. Richie also has pace.

I think Son needs some time out. We can’t go into City essentially playing with ten men.

 

[ralphs bald spot]

Their not really a pot 4 team though, they are good enough to be pot 3 or even 2.

Gendouzi is capablable more than capable. He is a regular international and is one of Marseilles best players. The fact that Arsenal let go of him as a 20 year old still developing doesn't make him not an excellent player now.

I think the more pertinent point is that if you give any half way decent midfield player as much time on the ball as he had then they will look decent

 

[C0YS]

I think the more pertinent point is that if you give any half way decent midfield player as much time on the ball as he had then they will look decent

I mean he didn't really do much for someone who was playing as the most forward midfielder mind. I think he had a game that showed his abilities but not a particularly effective one.