Match Threads Spurs Vs Sporting CP

[Kingellesar]

Are UEFA removing our 3 points for beating OM at home when Richie got a brace as some sort of punishment for Contes red card? Think you will find we already have 8 points.

If Marseille win, and its level points between us, Sporting and Frankfurt then it goes down to head to head points between the 3, Marseille results don’t come into play.

 

[Guernman]

I still think that VAR should only be used by request by the on-field ref and linesmen. If they feel that they haven't seen an incident properly or it's so close that they want a second look, then they can ask for it.

This would ensure that the on-field officials are still completely in control, but it also means the fans know exactly what is happening. Yesterday the linesman would have immediately raised his flag if he wanted a review, and then at least we all know what is happening and that the goal is in question before the celebrations

 

[chrissivad]

Yeah the first goal we got, never should have gone to VAR, you could see in real time the keeper fluffed it. He gave up jumping so just crumbled to the ground in the hope he would get an arm on him but Bentancur jumps clean.

Shouldn't have taken as long as it did, but all goals get checked by VAR

 

[Kingellesar]

Shouldn't have taken as long as it did, but all goals get checked by VAR

Yeah I get that but it shouldn’t . That decision should have taken 10 seconds and told to the referee, quick signal and away we go.

Its just a joke how var is used, at some point we will end up with around 90 minutes of decision making by VAR. It will turn into NFL. They will start cutting to commercial breaks then coming back to go to the referee to see what his on the field decision is.

Ruling on the field stands, offside defence number 12. 5 yard penalty, still goalkick.

 

[slartibartfast]

I still think that VAR should only be used by request by the on-field ref and linesmen. If they feel that they haven't seen an incident properly or it's so close that they want a second look, then they can ask for it.

This would ensure that the on-field officials are still completely in control, but it also means the fans know exactly what is happening. Yesterday the linesman would have immediately raised his flag if he wanted a review, and then at least we all know what is happening and that the goal is in question before the celebrations

It was onfield officials being in full control that led to VAR being introduced.
Technology was required to minimise mistakes and interpretation, to make it fair.
Unfortunately some twat came up with the shit we have now and also threw in 'clear and obvious error' which is open to interpretation so we have blatant incidents not being looked at one game but is the next!!!
Absolutely brain dead imo.
As for this offside fiasco, I understand they want to get it right but it shouldnt be by such fine margins and taking so long.
All I ever wanted was for the ref to go look at the monitor for a big game changing decision. Thats it.
This does not undermine the Ref. Its still his decision!
If we do have to stick with VAR can we not just have 2 people and the Ref go look at it from different angles when, and ONLY WHEN, VAR see a possible infringement, get 20secs tops, and go with the majority? Would anyone have an issue with that?
Sure sometimes it may still be wrong but not very often. And these incidents being ignored would not be missed either.
And if the Ref goes to look at the monitor for big decisions, such as a pen, there'd no longer be pressure from VAR to give it. Every penalty awarded should be looked at on the monitor by the Ref imo, then he can make his own mind up without interference.

 

[TURKISH69]

It was onfield officials being in full control that led to VAR being introduced.
Technology was required to minimise mistakes and interpretation, to make it fair.
Unfortunately some twat came up with the shit we have now and also threw in 'clear and obvious error' which is open to interpretation so we have blatant incidents not being looked at one game but is the next!!!
Absolutely brain dead imo.
As for this offside fiasco, I understand they want to get it right but it shouldnt be by such fine margins and taking so long.
All I ever wanted was for the ref to go look at the monitor for a big game changing decision. Thats it.
This does not undermine the Ref. Its still his decision!
If we do have to stick with VAR can we not just have 2 people and the Ref go look at it from different angles when, and ONLY WHEN, VAR see a possible infringement, get 20secs tops, and go with the majority? Would anyone have an issue with that?
Sure sometimes it may still be wrong but not very often. And these incidents being ignored would not be missed either.
And if the Ref goes to look at the monitor for big decisions, such as a pen, there'd no longer be pressure from VAR to give it. Every penalty awarded should be looked at on the monitor by the Ref imo, then he can make his own mind up without interference.

Are you all aware that those officials last night were our champions league final officials. All dutch the ref last night was the VAR official in champions league final, and the VAR official last night was the ref in the champions league final!! Dodgy handball against Sissoko also after we smashed Ajax vendetta hey just what ive been told!! Dodgy as fuck if correct especially seeing that twat at the end of the game!! Corrupt as fuck its worse than politics....

 

[maltahotspur]

Not having Conte on the bench against Marseille is going to be difficult for us.

 

[Serpico]

It's not interpretation though is it, it's a law that is very clear.

It's a shit law, but a law none the less.

Anyway, that's going to be my last post on the subject because you can't fight the hive.

Don’t need to reply...
I just wanted to add. If it was an obvious offside, why did it take almost 5 minutes to make the decision. There must have been some thought, deliberation behind the decision. This I see as interpretation, weighing up what is being seen and what the machine had monitored. There must have been some doubt because it took so long. I would add there must have been contradiction in the visual facts. They got it wrong. I personally believe a wrong decision.

 

[fortworthspur]

fuck those refs.

 

[fortworthspur]

In this case there was a definitive view that showed Kane was in an off-side position - per VAR. As I noted above, the play was complicated and needed VAR to verify that Royal was onside - he was - and then had to decided two things with Kane - first, was the defender behind Kane, and, was Kane behind the ball? Both checks had to be complete to determine if Kane was in an onside position - because if either were true, goal stands.

Then, there still needed to be a judgment call made on the ball played off the defender - i.e. was that an intentional movement from the defender. Of all the checks - this one probably should have gone to the match official, with VAR determining that Kane was off-side, unless the match official determined the defender played the ball.

and how do they know the precise moment the ball touches Royal head and then draw the lines?

 

[TwoSaintsComeMarching]

I keep hearing offside is black and white. Its either offside or not. That's bullshit. What if the ball and the attacker are exactly level? Down to the mm. How do they call that?

Its bullshit.

 

[Spurs 1961]

Not having Conte on the bench against Marseille is going to be difficult for us.

Why? He does nothing to change things with subs. Still his antics and running up and down give you something amusing to watch instead of the turgid 'football'