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allpaths

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The squad as I see it for next year:
GK: Lloris,Vorm, Lopez
CB: Toby, Jan, Dier, Davies, CCV
RWB/RB: Walker, KWP
LWB/LB: Rose, Davies, Sessegnon
DM: Wanyama, Dier,Dembele
CM: Dembele, Winks, Tielemans, Eriksen
AM: Eriksen, Lamela,Tielemans
SS/WF: Dele,Son, Zaha, Lamela
CF: Kane,Janssen, Zaha, Son

*I'd really hope that Onomah would be given time out on loan at a decent level to mature and develop and eventually take over for Dembele. Davies to be Rose's backup until Sessegnon is able may take a year or two. Janssen would be on a short lease and if he doesn't shape up ship him out in January.Slowly integrate Edwards, no need to rush him. KWP to replace Trippier, he's a more like for like with Walker and it's really important for our fullbacks to be able to get up and down the pitch.
This is a side that can compete in Europe and challenge at the top domestically for years to come, and I'm not ashamed of it.
 

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I understand we might not have the playing time to attract Tielemans, but I still think we have room for that distinct Eriksen backup in our squad to protect those spells A) were at the beginning of the season when it takes time for Eriksen to get started, B) and those stretches of games were we run Eriksen ragged. Lamela is a wonderful creative force, but he doesn't posses the same skill set as Eriksen and it showed during our string of draws at the beginning of the season that we need another creative option.
Also while the 3421 is an incredible effective formation,I think it's really important to also be able to use the 4141 system, especially in Europe and against the likes of City and Liverpool. It's the formation that puts the most pressure on oppositions defenses and imo was the big difference between our two performances against City. Tielemans and Eriksen was made to play in that formation. It maybe really ambitious but I'd love for us to head in this direction.

I don't think Eriksen takes a while to get up to speed, IMO it's the system that was the problem at the start (though it was more like October/November). Even after the draw with City in late January, we switched back to 4-2-3-1/4-1-4-1 for 3 games and didn't score in open play in 3 games (we scored 1 penalty) and 2 of those games were vs Sunderland and Middlesbrough. We then scored 9 goals in next 3 PL games after we switched back to 3-4-2-1.

It was actually the 4-1-4-1/4-2-3-1 that we played when we lost to Liverpool and the only game in Europe we played 3-4-2-1, was the game that Alli got sent off and even with 10 men, it was probably the game we played best in at Wembley, despite the draw.

I agree that we need to switch between different systems for different games though but 3-4-2-1 has suited Alli, Kane and Eriksen more (they have been much more productive) and we need to bear that in mind, so we don't have too many AMs, suffering from lack of game time.
 

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The Daily Mail had an article yesterday that said Palace are going to offer Zaha 100,000 pounds a week. Are we prepared to break our transfer record and make him one of our highest paid players? I think that's what it's going to take to get him. Palace don't have to sell, as he has a contract until 2020.

As for Barkley, one of the issues I mentioned earlier about him was his lack of workrate off the ball. I watched again versus Liverpool him being casual when Liverpool defenders were on the ball in their own half and after he lost the ball attempting a dribble. That's not going to cut it under Poch. His tackles and interceptions per 90 minutes also bear out his lack of defensive effort. Zaha, who I don't rate anywhere near as highly as some here, does work much harder off the ball than Barkley. Zaha completes nearly 2 successful tackles per 90 minutes this season in the Prem, which is pretty good. My concern with both of these guys, though, is that they really won't like not being regular players starting most matches like they do now.

On a separate note, I watched Juve-Napoli yesterday. Dries Mertens was again really good for Napoli. He has 25 goals and 7 assists combined in Serie A and CL this season, which is obviously amazing statistically. Yesterday against one of the best teams in the world (arguably the best defensively), he knifed open Juventus' backline with the type of sweet through ball our team is missing without Lamela playing. Mertens has only 1 year left on his contract, and he has the relationships with core members of our squad already to settle quickly (he's also an older player who probably would more readily accept not starting every single game). According to Calcio Mercato in Italian, we had scouts in Naples watching Mertens yesterday (http://www.calciomercato.com/news/n...a-europa-al-san-paolo-per-dybala-e-mert-20958). So this might not be that far-fetched if Levy can get a deal with his contract running down.
 

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The Daily Mail had an article yesterday that said Palace are going to offer Zaha 100,000 pounds a week. Are we prepared to break our transfer record and make him one of our highest paid players? I think that's what it's going to take to get him. Palace don't have to sell, as he has a contract until 2020.

As for Barkley, one of the issues I mentioned earlier about him was his lack of workrate off the ball. I watched again versus Liverpool him being casual when Liverpool defenders were on the ball in their own half and after he lost the ball attempting a dribble. That's not going to cut it under Poch. His tackles and interceptions per 90 minutes also bear out his lack of defensive effort. Zaha, who I don't rate anywhere near as highly as some here, does work much harder off the ball than Barkley. Zaha completes nearly 2 successful tackles per 90 minutes this season in the Prem, which is pretty good. My concern with both of these guys, though, is that they really won't like not being regular players starting most matches like they do now.

On a separate note, I watched Juve-Napoli yesterday. Dries Mertens was again really good for Napoli. He has 25 goals and 7 assists combined in Serie A and CL this season, which is obviously amazing statistically. Yesterday against one of the best teams in the world (arguably the best defensively), he knifed open Juventus' backline with the type of sweet through ball our team is missing without Lamela playing. Mertens has only 1 year left on his contract, and he has the relationships with core members of our squad already to settle quickly (he's also an older player who probably would more readily accept not starting every single game). According to Calcio Mercato in Italian, we had scouts in Naples watching Mertens yesterday (http://www.calciomercato.com/news/n...a-europa-al-san-paolo-per-dybala-e-mert-20958). So this might not be that far-fetched if Levy can get a deal with his contract running down.

I don't think it matters what palace offer Zaha. If we give him the chance to come to Spurs we will offer what he is worth in wages, ie 60k or whatever. If he says palace have offered 100k we will simply tell him to stay there and enjoy the relegation battle.

He'd be daft to not accept the ride we are on.
 

allpaths

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I don't think Eriksen takes a while to get up to speed, IMO it's the system that was the problem at the start (though it was more like October/November). Even after the draw with City in late January, we switched back to 4-2-3-1/4-1-4-1 for 3 games and didn't score in open play in 3 games (we scored 1 penalty) and 2 of those games were vs Sunderland and Middlesbrough. We then scored 9 goals in next 3 PL games after we switched back to 3-4-2-1.

It was actually the 4-1-4-1/4-2-3-1 that we played when we lost to Liverpool and the only game in Europe we played 3-4-2-1, was the game that Alli got sent off and even with 10 men, it was probably the game we played best in at Wembley, despite the draw.

I agree that we need to switch between different systems for different games though but 3-4-2-1 has suited Alli, Kane and Eriksen more (they have been much more productive) and we need to bear that in mind, so we don't have too many AMs, suffering from lack of game time.
We started slow because of a combination of things, players out of form, injuries, suspension and a really stiff 4231, but there was no denying we weren't creating anything and it's obvious that if Eriksen doesn't play or isn't performing for whatever reason we don't even play half as well and we need a secondary creative source.

tbf we've only played 4141 5 times this season twice in the league and three times in europe, they all weren't good but it did produce the best front footed pressing and one of the best performances in general in season against city. 4231 especially when we have dembele and wayama in the side is a very distinct double pivot and is very different to when we play a 4141. If we add the personal we can match any side and create a tough match up for anyone.
 
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The squad as I see it for next year:
GK: Lloris,Vorm, Lopez
CB: Toby, Jan, Dier, Davies, CCV
RWB/RB: Walker, KWP
LWB/LB: Rose, Davies, Sessegnon
DM: Wanyama, Dier,Dembele
CM: Dembele, Winks, Tielemans, Eriksen
AM: Eriksen, Lamela,Tielemans
SS/WF: Dele,Son, Zaha, Lamela
CF: Kane,Janssen, Zaha, Son

*I'd really hope that Onomah would be given time out on loan at a decent level to mature and develop and eventually take over for Dembele. Davies to be Rose's backup until Sessegnon is able may take a year or two. Janssen would be on a short lease and if he doesn't shape up ship him out in January.Slowly integrate Edwards, no need to rush him. KWP to replace Trippier, he's a more like for like with Walker and it's really important for our fullbacks to be able to get up and down the pitch.
This is a side that can compete in Europe and challenge at the top domestically for years to come, and I'm not ashamed of it.

Be very surprised if Trip is let go.
 

allpaths

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Be very surprised if Trip is let go.
I have no problem with that, and KWP replacing Tripps isn't anywhere close to a priority for me, just something i'd like to see take place over the long run.
 

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I have no problem with that, and KWP replacing Tripps isn't anywhere close to a priority for me, just something i'd like to see take place over the long run.

KWP might be better suited going on loan if we can find the right club IMO. Needs game time and that will be limited with us atm.
 

allpaths

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KWP might be better suited going on loan if we can find the right club IMO. Needs game time and that will be limited with us atm.
Can players with a future at spurs go out on loan, I thought that was like the kiss of death for our youngsters?
 

allpaths

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Perhaps you should ask Harry Kane?
That was under Redknapp, I asked because I thought Poch preferred to keep the best youngsters around the 1st team to train. And all the youngsters who have been sent on loan have been sold under poch.
 

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Yeah Kane, Walker and Rose have been shocking...
Perhaps you should ask Harry Kane?
@allpaths is talking since Poch took over. Several ITK have stated that Poch prefers to keep youngsters who he sees have a future at the club (so they don't learn bad habits) in the squad and only loans player's he wants to let go.

Poch himself has hinted at this himself if memory serves.
 

millsey

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Sissoko should be sold. People moan about people who want him out but it does not make any financial sense to keep someone who doesn't improve you... What the fuck.

Every job there is a probation period, he is now past his probation period. Yeah yeah yeah he hasn't played etc, we'll then he is surplus to requirements. Sheesh.

And no he isn't being scapegoated.

Barkley I think he will be ok but at say 10 to 15m. If he is 30m then Dele is 100m player,
Dele is a 100 million player
 

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Dele is a 100 million player
£100m maybe to a foreign club and even then idk. He is a top player who at 21 still has yet to barely even scrape his ceiling.

But lets face reality here. Dele and Harry are as close to priceless as you can get. Their value to us far exceeds what we can reasonably expect other clubs to pay for them, in all honesty. As long as Poch is here, i dont see them leaving. They likely wont push for a move if we continue to play this well and hopefully win trophies. And under Levy, i dont ever see us being in a position where the club is scraping for money so they have to be sold.
 

Trix

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@allpaths is talking since Poch took over. Several ITK have stated that Poch prefers to keep youngsters who he sees have a future at the club (so they don't learn bad habits) in the squad and only loans player's he wants to let go.

Poch himself has hinted at this himself if memory serves.

Yeah that might well be the case. I just look at the ages of the players in front of him, and it might be some time before he gets any real spell of game time.
 

allpaths

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Yeah that might well be the case. I just look at the ages of the players in front of him, and it might be some time before he gets any real spell of game time.
Think once KWP matures physical he replaces Trips, he's more of a marauding FB which suits are style a lot better. If Walker was ever out for a long period of time I think Trippier's limits, especially from a defensive perspective would show.
 

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We already have Pau Lopez who was a top young GK in La Liga, no need for Pickford
Sessengon:love::love::love:
Tielemans:love::love::love:
Zaha:love:
Boom, then sit back relax and watch us dominate for years to come

I'll trump your Tielemans with a Kovacic. That would be a glorious transfer window... although I'd be tempted to look for another CB too
 

Trix

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Think once KWP matures physical he replaces Trips, he's more of a marauding FB which suits are style a lot better. If Walker was ever out for a long period of time I think Trippier's limits, especially from a defensive perspective would show.

It's funny you say that because it's the only position(RB) I don't worry about if our first choice(Walker) is out.
 
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