Summer transfer wish list - 2018

[Bus-Conductor]

But if we're putting our forwards in good positions, that they are wasting, then are they just absolved of it because in your opinion the midfield is too "ponderous?" Wastefulness has been a theme of the season. It's alright against most of the PL fodder we encounter, because we monopolise the ball, and create 20+ shots and chances.

Too often we're profligate, another chance comes along, and we're often are OK. But in these top level matches, one must be more ruthless - Chelsea last season were a great example of this - not creating chance after chance, but just killing teams with a quick 1-2 punch.

But Chelsea did that often by being good at transition. By getting forwards into better quality scenarios that make better chances that increase the likelihood of goals.

Look at ManC this year, they monopolise the ball but almost all of their goals are scored from close range.

If we can drastically improve our forwards I’m all for it, but I think it will be much easier to improve a slow and ponderous midfield.

And it’s not just about forward transitions or contributing to creativity.

Dier can’t press well because he’s not dynamic. Our goal against Brighton came from Wanyama pushed right up into their box winning the ball.

Dembele seems to give free kicks away whenever he tries to press. And neither he nor are dynamic enough when we are getting pressed or when other teams are transitioning quick on us. And the games against City, Liverpool, Juve, Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal away all had some evidence of this.

I think their has been an issue with poor pressing from some of the forwards too, Alli isn’t great (but did improve in the later half of the season) Son’s not great and Kane was poor early in the season.

But I think finding forwards who will press well and produce what ours do will be harder than upgrading Dier and replacing Dembele’s role. We’ve already got an upgrade on Dier here.

 

[yankspurs]

Say and have your opinions! Poch wants Zaha! And has done for past 2 seasons! But I think it will almost be impossible deal to do, due to the history, and bad taste/attitudes among agents etc.

Jesus fucking christ, Poch.

 

[ghjk_91]

Think people are setting themselves up for a big disappointment in the Summer. I just can't see us spending huge money on big name players. We'll sell Toby and Dembele and replace them with exciting youngsters who Poch can mould.

That's where we are currently at as a club. We're massively overachieving with the current squad - we just don't pay the mega wages that the huge players cost. Also, I can see it upsetting the current dynamic in the squad if we change our philosophy. That's the key to our recent success and I think we risk jeapordising that.

 

[allatsea]

For me, what's tiresome is watching us buy players like Llorente, Janssen, Sissoko, Nkoudou, Njie, and now Aurier when we're on the cusp of reaching the next level.

We're all entitled to voice our opinions on here.

You do realise even the most successful managers in the modern era (see Premier League) have at best a 50% success rate with transfers ? You list our failures but how about Lloris, Eriksen, Toby, Vertonghen, Rose, Walker, Sanchez, Alli, Son, etc ? They are all successes.

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

meanwhile the rest of the top 4 just get on with it...

Edit: It would help if we had a decent scouting setup, and not just aspirations to secure left-overs on deadline day - maybe if we had confidence in our previous purchases it wouldn't be so much of an issue...

Lol we do but so does every club. Fact is while there are other more richer clubs out there targeting similar players to us we're always going to be lower in the pecking order. Players/agents/clubs will always make us wait it out until they are sure no one richer than us will give them a bigger payday. And it's only after the richer options pull out that we can then take our turn.

 

[Trix]

Lol we do but so does every club. Fact is while there are other more richer clubs out there targeting similar players to us we're always going to be lower in the pecking order. Players/agents/clubs will always make us wait it out until they are sure no one richer than us will give them a bigger payday. And it's only after the richer options pull out that we can then take our turn.

I'd add to that that we do sign players early as well. I think some of our fans focus more on the last week of the window than Levy actually does.

 

[danielneeds]

I'd add to that that we do sign players early as well. I think some of our fans focus more on the last week of the window than Levy actually does.

Pretty sure the World Cup and the window closing before the seasons starts will change the dynamic for many teams too.

 

[daryl hannah]

You do realise even the most successful managers in the modern era (see Premier League) have at best a 50% success rate with transfers ? You list our failures but how about Lloris, Eriksen, Toby, Vertonghen, Rose, Walker, Sanchez, Alli, Son, etc ? They are all successes.

It's about being on the cusp of the next level and going and signing ...Sissoko, for example. Newcastle fans were laughing actively at us.

How did we attract those successes, then?

 

[rossdapep]

Speaking of Modric, we need to get in a signing or two as early as his was............optimistic, I know

 

[Shadydan]

It's about being on the cusp of the next level and going and signing ...Sissoko, for example. Newcastle fans were laughing actively at us.

How did we attract those successes, then?

Again you're attacking the club for pulling off a dud signing, it happens to everyone, why can't you accept this?

 

[thebenjamin]

I'd add to that that we do sign players early as well. I think some of our fans focus more on the last week of the window than Levy actually does.

It's Poch who keeps bringing it up

 

[daryl hannah]

Again you're attacking the club for pulling off a dud signing, it happens to everyone, why can't you accept this?

I don't know, maybe because it feels like banging my head against a brick wall when we bring in these players.

(I'm on record in these here forums as saying I was against signing 3 of our duds).

I'm just frustrated - we haven't needed much to kick on in the past couple of seasons so I see it as a failure of recruitment strategy.

 

[WiganSpur]

Pretty sure the World Cup and the window closing before the seasons starts will change the dynamic for many teams too.

It’s great for us because imo we leave things late and have had half cooked squads for the first 2 or 3 games of the season in previous years. At least it won’t cost us results wise as much now.

 

[kaz Hirai]

Unfortunately English too flight football is boringly predicable by the one Leicester season. If we want to really compete then we have spend as big as at least Liverpool.

Sissoko, llorente, janssen, maybe Dembele if his body isn't up to it, Toby ,probably rose.

And in a fantasy world we actually match the Manchester clubs I'd go hard in for

De ligt
Modric
Pulsic
Gelatin Martins or bale
Sesseegnon
Maddison

Crazy but you have to over spend to do anything these days
Though the last 2 are on the verge of moving to pool according to the guardian .


Whatever the case no more shite squad fillers. Rather sterling, onomah and Edwards bulk out the squad if we're gonna look at scraps again

 

[Shadydan]

I don't know, maybe because it feels like banging my head against a brick wall when we bring in these players.

(I'm on record in these here forums as saying I was against signing 3 of our duds).

I'm just frustrated - we haven't needed much to kick on in the past couple of seasons so I see it as a failure of recruitment strategy.

What constitutes a success in recruitment strategy for you then?

 

[Trix]

Unfortunately English too flight football is boringly predicable by the one Leicester season. If we want to really compete then we have spend as big as at least Liverpool.

Sissoko, llorente, janssen, maybe Dembele if his body isn't up to it, Toby ,probably rose.

And in a fantasy world we actually match the Manchester clubs I'd go hard in for

De ligt
Modric
Pulsic
Gelatin Martins or bale
Sesseegnon
Maddison

Crazy but you have to over spend to do anything these days
Though the last 2 are on the verge of moving to pool according to the guardian .


Whatever the case no more shite squad fillers. Rather sterling, onomah and Edwards bulk out the squad if we're gonna look at scraps again

If we win our game in hand we go level on points with Pool and are three points behind United. They are no more competing with City than we are.

 

[kaz Hirai]

If we win our game in hand we go level on points with Pool and are three points behind United.

I think you misunderstood

I said if we want to compete with the Manchester clubs NOT Liverpool.

We need to spend at least what pool and arse are willing to spend on players.

 

[Japhet]

Levy says in the Poch book that he and Poch don’t envisage paying £60 million for a player and all the costs and pressures that come with it (too high a price if the player fails).

So I fail to see us buying Zaha or anyone at that level/price. It’s there in black and white in his book. It seems that Poch understands that unless he’s changed his mind/ethos/philosophy/type of project ince the 9 months since the book was written.

£60m would buy you an elite player when the book was written. In a very short space of time it now buys much less. We won't be signing elite players, but we might well have to pay £60m for an upgrade in any number of positions.

 

[Trix]

I think you misunderstood

I said if we want to compete with the Manchester clubs NOT Liverpool.

We need to spend at least what pool and arse are willing to spend on players.

Again win our game in hand and we are 3 points behind Yanited. No one is competing with City any more than we have this season, regardless of how much more than us they have spent.

 

[kaz Hirai]

Again win our game in hand and we are 3 points behind Yanited. No one is competing with City this season regardless of how much more than us they have spent.

We're not competing with united either , last 3 years:

Fa cup
League cup
Europa league cup
Community shield
And another fa cup final

Us? Not even a peace cup or even a cup final period, in the same time frame