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ardiles&villa

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Sell Lamela, rose, aurier, Dembele, Llorente and Sissoko. Replace with fast wingbacks, one creative midfielder or two and a good backup striker. Buy better quality players with winning mentality.
 

Bobbins

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Sell Lamela, rose, aurier, Dembele, Llorente and Sissoko. Replace with fast wingbacks, one creative midfielder or two and a good backup striker. Buy better quality players with winning mentality.

Essentially you've hit all the right areas and individuals with that post (apart from Lamela), but that's a 3 year job to realistically replace all those players and upgrade all those areas.

I agree in principle though. Full backs and CM desperately need upgrading.
 

WiganSpur

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Essentially you've hit all the right areas and individuals with that post (apart from Lamela), but that's a 3 year job to realistically replace all those players and upgrade all those areas.

I agree in principle though. Full backs and CM desperately need upgrading.
A Rose replacement and at least one CM are absolute musts now.

RB is still a debatable one as i'm on the fence regarding Aurier. It's not inconceivable that he could return a better player next season after a year of adaptation and a good pre-season. Ivory Coast haven't qualified so that could do him some good to get back to the Training Centre and focus on his game. Walker-Peters should be given a chance at RB if we win the next two and get 4th, but we all know Poch won't bother unfortunately.

I'm happy for us to keep Dembele as a squad player but if he leaves then we'll need two CMs if Toby is leaving.
 

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When we spend large sums of money with a very limited budget on players like Sissoko, Aurier, Llorente and Janssen then what do you expect?

Those players are never going to be the deciding factor in delivering any silverware, and were shown the door almost willingly by the clubs they came from.

When we spend limited funds that we have more wisely then perhaps we will prosper, after all the reason for top players not joining in the past was that we had no CL football now we are about to make is a third year running what excuse next?

Oh and before people say wages, we should have consolidated the money wasted on the aforementioned players and plowed all the chips into one or two decent fucking signings.

Those four alone must be costing us close to one hundred million.

Our failings in the transfer market go back further to the sale of Bale and the poor use of the near £90m received. Only Eriksen @ a snippet £11m has proven himself capable of being good enough to make a difference.
 

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Perjury.

An article from The Independent :-

Real Madrid star Luka Modric could face five years in prison after perjury charge

Real Madrid star Luka Modric faces up to five years in jail after being charged with perjury in his Croatian homeland.
Croatia's state attorney has charged the country's national team captain with giving false testimony in a criminal trial that looked into his move from Dinamo Zagreb to Tottenham in 2008.
Modric has been charged after allegedly making false statements at the tax fraud trial of Zdravko Mamic, a former executive director at Dinamo Zagreb and numerous other transfers involving the club.
The midfielder appeared in court in June 2017 to give his account of Mamic's role in his transfer from Dinamo to Tottenham, with investigators suggesting cash was embezzled via deals where Mr Mamic, his brother Zoran and two others took a cut from the sales of players.
The quartet are accused of corruption that reportedly cost Dinamo Zagreb more than €15m and the state €1.5m.
The charges revolve around when Modric signed clauses in his contract ahead of his move to Tottenham, with authorities suggesting the player did not agree to the revised deal in 2004, as he had suggested in court.

Croatian authorities believes the player changed his testimony in favour of Mr Mamic, with the sentence that could be handed to Modric ranging between six months and five years.
Asked for comment, a Real Madrid spokesperson said: "Our official comments are made through our official media channels."
 
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Our failings in the transfer market go back further to the sale of Bale and the poor use of the near £90m received. Only Eriksen @ a snippet £11m has proven himself capable of being good enough to make a difference.
I think that’s a tad harsh... Lamela was in that batch and he has had a tough time with Injuries, doesn’t make him a failure. After that, Dele was a good signing and so was Toby.

I don’t think we need to be negative about previous transfers, just look to the future, be positive and support the team. The clubs management from Levy down has transformed our club from mid table mediocre also rans to a top 4 side who challenge. The issue now is how we get to the next level!
 

Shadydan

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We need upgrades that's for sure but what this club really needs is mentality. Poch has changed it so much, he's made us stronger and a team who don't give in as easily but we are still shy of characters who can drag us over the line.

When United equalised yesterday I knew the game was up. I wonder if the players felt the same? Did that belief sap from them immediately? We needed someone out there to shake them and say "C'mon guys, we are better than them, this is our game, keep your heads". A bit of nous at certain points in the game will go a long way to. In-game management.

For example, we often get ourselves in a great position - 1-0 up yesterday, 2-0 up at Chelsea two years ago and 3-2 up on aggregate against Juventus - and throw it away due to a silly mistake or a loss of possession in a vulnerable situation. These are situations in which we need a leader to demand no risks are taken - like Dembele yesterday - if you can't play it out, just guide it down the line, United needed to force something, not us. In the mean time we can reorganise.

So, whilst we can sit here and say we need a creative midfielder and a central midfielder, it's imperative that these players have experience or are intelligent enough to not leave us in vulnerable situations.

Also, I think Poch needs to start to consider altering things once we get our noses in front. I'm not particularly happy to sit on leads because it can be dangerous but we have the tools as a counter-attacking team to hurt opposition and it's exactly the kind of thing that gets Mourinho results in these big games. We need to learn how to kill games, and I don't mean by scoring more, I mean simply take the energy and momentum out of the opposition. Waste time, make niggly fouls 50 yards from our own goal, kick the ball away, basically do whatever it takes to make it harder for the opposition.

Dunno, when Utd went into the lead they just shithoused their way to the final whistle, sneaky fouls, time wasting, shirt pulling etc...same with Juve in the CL. I'm not saying that we should have done that when we went 1-0 up but our game management needs to be better, like have an aim to get to half time in the lead and frustrate them. We like to play a bit too much sometimes and leave ourselves vulnerable, hope we learn from it although Poch did allude to it after the Juve match so here's hoping.
 

danielneeds

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We need at least one of our fullbacks to be a genuine attacking threat to the opposition. Signing Sessegnon would give us such another dimension from LB.
 

cider spurs

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Certainly think we need something akin to Walker and Rose in their prime...tough ask, but needs looking at.

Top CB to replace Alderweireld should/when he leaves. Has to be comfortable on the ball, solid in the pass and nice hair.


Obvious area...a top class CM. One with an eye for a pass, a good engine and whom can dictate tempo and quicken transition from defence to attack.

CF/WF...A decent prospect or proven willing to play second fiddle, or in addition to Kane. Always a tough ask, good players seldom want to sit on bench, and certainly not on mediocre money compared to other clubs.

Of course, I'm not suggesting we sign all the players below. If Rose stays and gets his form back, LB all good etc, etc.

Merely a few names I think could do a job...

CB...

de Ligt (Ajax)...18 year old. Oozes class, looks a true leader, reads the game well, comfortable on the ball. Looks like his ceiling could be sky high. Is Foyth enough, will Dier revert to predominantly CB role.

LB/WB...

Ghoulam (Napoli)...gets the ball moving quickly, links well. Downside, contract renewal only in Dec 17 running until 2022

Kurzawa (PSG)... wicked delivery think Poch could improve further. Hat-trick in Champs league no less.

Shaw (Man Utd)...knows Poch, homegrown, still relatively young. Once a decent prospect, could Poch re-ignite his career.

RB/WB...

Ricardo Pereira (Porto)...One of my top wishes for incomings. 24 year old who plays RB, but can play RM and LB also.

Periera Whoscored characteristics...

Strengths...

Passing...Very Strong
Key passes...Very Strong
Dribbling...Very Strong
Tackling...Very Strong

Holding on to the ball...Strong
Defensive contribution...Strong
Concentration...Strong

Weaknesses...

Player has no significant weaknesses

Style of play...

Likes to play short passes
Gets fouled often
Likes to do layoffs
Likes to dribble
Likes to tackle

Oh...and he's out of contract next summer. Think he'd improve our RB position. A Brazilian pal for Moura also.

CM...

Banega (Sevilla)...29 years old, wonderful passer, great tackler, moves ball quickly. Great talent, a player I've mentioned numerous times.

Please read below link...



https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp..../banega-shows-up-fellaini-as-united-crash-out

Modric (Real Madrid)...getting on age wise, as for attributes...exactly, we know.

N'dombele (Lyon, on loan from Amiens)...21 years of age, dubbed the 'new Viera'. Drives his team from deep, great control, great passing range, looks like he could evolve into a worldie. Another who I would like the most along with Periera.

If we require more DM types...

Kondogbia and Diawara spring to mind.

I'll add these last few as players as those that many of us have mentioned and are known. Some being homegrown options also...

Zaha
Bale
Sessegnon
Maddison
Martial
Rashford
 
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I’m sure if we’re watching and seeing these weaknesses, Poch is too, relax people, I’m sure there’s a plan for next year. We know the wage cap goes, bet we run out at the start of next season as Spurs 2.0
 
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A Rose replacement and at least one CM are absolute musts now.

RB is still a debatable one as i'm on the fence regarding Aurier. It's not inconceivable that he could return a better player next season after a year of adaptation and a good pre-season. Ivory Coast haven't qualified so that could do him some good to get back to the Training Centre and focus on his game. Walker-Peters should be given a chance at RB if we win the next two and get 4th, but we all know Poch won't bother unfortunately.

I'm happy for us to keep Dembele as a squad player but if he leaves then we'll need two CMs if Toby is leaving.
Give Aurier and Moura a chance to form a partnership on the right... they both will come good...
 

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We do need to improve our acquisitions on the pitch. Too many average to decent workhorses and no genuine cutting edge players.

In general you get what you pay for and we are no different. Yes we have found some absolute gems but generally in life you get what you pay for.
 

WiganSpur

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I think it's easier to just keep faith in a lot of our players at the moment because if we are overly radical then we leave ourselves too much to do in the transfer market and our record in the market is mixed at best.

That's why I think with Toby going, move Dier to CB, try to get Dembele tied down for the moment (or just let his contract run) and bring in a new top CM. Then all we'd need to do is replace Rose.

Regarding Aurier we don't know if he will come good or not next season. If we got rid we'd have to find a replacement which is not as simple as it sounds. It's going to depend on how Poch sees KWP.

Firstly to solve the full back problem i'd replace Rose. He doesn't want to be here and his fitness is nowhere near what we need it to be. We can't rely on him and Davies is getting run ragged as a result. I'd bring in a LB with similar dynamic qualities to Rose but it won't be easy to find one. At RB i'd just let Aurier, Trippier and KWP battle it out for 2 out of 3 spots in pre-season. If Aurier or Trippier don't make the grade then one of them can be sold.
 
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worcestersauce

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Don't understand this assumption that Rose is off. I'd be very surprised if he isn't here next season. Only two clubs in league could afford him/would want him. City won't want him as Mendy is a new signing and they just won the league without him.

That only leaves Utd, I am seriously struggling to see Utd spending Walker money on Rose. He's been injured pretty much all season, when he has played he's looked unfit and out of form. He's not a superstar that Utd would not care about this. They'll look elsewhere at the price we'd want, next season is huge for Mourinho and Rose is too big a risk.

Hopefully, as personally a fit and in form Rose is head and shoulders above Davies and takes us up a level.
I think they would spend walker money on Rose, they spent more than that for a guy six months off a free transfer. That said I want Rose to stay, he is our best full back by some way.
 

shelfboy68

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For sure. This summer feels like it's going to be a crucial crossroads, though. We need to invest and invest correctly. I think experience is the way to go.
I would like to think so but I certainly will not hold my breath this summer's incomings will certainly be interesting, hopefully some game changers would be of benefit as we are too predictable right now everyone knows the Tottenham way.
 

Thewobbler

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Next year we might be on a part with them financially. But that doesn't improve the team we have on the pitch now. Right now we have far less money to spend than either of those sides. If we could've just offered Walker £350k a week when he wanted out like Woolwich did with Ozil, he would've stayed. If we could've just bought Salah rather than Llorente, we'd probably have won the league. But right now we don't have those resources, simple as that, and it means we have to try and punch above our weight to compete with these sides.

We had the resources to buy salah and mane but they were not on the radar. 30m a piece plus 100k wages is more than doable for the amount of money our club rakes in.

We chose to buy the cheap options.
 

Haddock

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I think it's easier to just keep faith in a lot of our players at the moment because if we are overly radical then we leave ourselves too much to do in the transfer market and our record in the market is mixed at best.

That's why I think with Toby going, move Dier to CB, try to get Dembele tied down for the moment and bring in a new top CM. Then all we'd need to do is replace Rose.

Regarding Aurier we don't know if he will come good or not next season. If we got rid we'd have to find a replacement which is not as simple as it sounds. It's going to depend on how Poch sees KWP.

Firstly to solve the full back problem i'd replace Rose. He doesn't want to be here and his fitness is nowhere near what we need it to be. We can't rely on him and Davies is getting run ragged as a result. I'd bring in a LB with similar dynamic qualities to Rose but it won't be easy to find one. At RB i'd just let Aurier, Trippier and KWP battle it out for 2 out of 3 spots in pre-season. If Aurier or Trippier don't make the grade then one of them can be sold.

Yeah, too many changes in the first eleven might be to risky. I believe it's pivotal to get a good start next season at the new stadium. We didn't lose a single match last season at WHL. Might be hard to emulate that the first season in the new stadium but that is what we should be aiming for.
 
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