The All New Spurs U21, U18 & Other Youth News Thread

[spursfan77]

They can't all make it. If you consider how many players get released from each PL club's youth team every season, its amazing if all of them stay in football at some level.

There are ten names mentioned there, if every PL club released ten youth players a season there would be 200 players a season trying to find clubs at 72 odd football league clubs. Plus they are competing against the released players from years before, more experienced pros, the football league clubs youth players and so on. It's a very harsh environment if you struggle to make the grade.

I'm amazed that three of them have joined PL clubs!

It will be interesting as to how EPPP effects this. I suspect more young players will fall out the game as clubs lower down the leagues won't see the point in keeping their academies open because their promising kids can get poached by bigger clubs for nothing. Its a sad state of affairs.

 

[Krafty]

It will be interesting as to how EPPP effects this. I suspect more young players will fall out the game as clubs lower down the leagues won't see the point in keeping their academies open because their promising kids can get poached by bigger clubs for nothing. Its a sad state of affairs.

It will be interesting how it works...big clubs have always poached players from the lower leagues (us with Rose and Bostock) for very small amounts, so in a way EPPP won't change much but the academy rating system could have implications.

I always think the bonus of a youth system, and the players it provides if retained, are that they will more than likely be more devoted to the club because they are either supporters or feel a sense of loyalty, and they inevitably are on lower wages than players who have been transferred in.

There are always players who slip through the net or are advised well enough to not just go for the big club move, equally there are lots that do make the move and do well.

 

[Krafty]

my point was that ive seen Roman-Percil a few times and although you could see he wasnt the best i felt he had a little about him to keep him in the professional leagues at initially after leaving spurs

im fully aware that they all cant make it. ive played in the same teams as Wayne Routledge, Nigel Reo-Coker, Dean Leacock and Wade Small who apart from the latter still play pro footy. there was another guy who i played with around the same time who was in the same team with Small and Reo-Coker at Wimbledon and who i thought was the best of the lot but he struggled when he got to reserve level and dropped down the leagues before quitting all together.

Ah I get ya, I thought it was more surprise that a Spurs youth product would play there, not R-P in particular.

I played with Dean Leacock at U13/U14 level, bastard took my centre back spot.

 

[spursfan77]

It will be interesting how it works...big clubs have always poached players from the lower leagues (us with Rose and Bostock) for very small amounts, so in a way EPPP won't change much but the academy rating system could have implications.

I always think the bonus of a youth system, and the players it provides if retained, are that they will more than likely be more devoted to the club because they are either supporters or feel a sense of loyalty, and they inevitably are on lower wages than players who have been transferred in.

There are always players who slip through the net or are advised well enough to not just go for the big club move, equally there are lots that do make the move and do well.

The point is, where before a division 2 player might get a million quid for a promising player from a pl club now the premier league club only has to pay tens of thousands of pounds. They won't get paid the money for youngsters to afford to keep the academies open.

 

[newbie]

my point was that ive seen Roman-Percil a few times and although you could see he wasnt the best i felt he had a little about him to keep him in the professional leagues at initially after leaving spurs

im fully aware that they all cant make it. ive played in the same teams as Wayne Routledge, Nigel Reo-Coker, Dean Leacock and Wade Small who apart from the latter still play pro footy. there was another guy who i played with around the same time who was in the same team with Small and Reo-Coker at Wimbledon and who i thought was the best of the lot but he struggled when he got to reserve level and dropped down the leagues before quitting all together.

How strange I knew wade small

 

[RichieS]

my point was that ive seen Roman-Percil a few times and although you could see he wasnt the best i felt he had a little about him to keep him in the professional leagues at initially after leaving spurs

im fully aware that they all cant make it. ive played in the same teams as Wayne Routledge, Nigel Reo-Coker, Dean Leacock and Wade Small who apart from the latter still play pro footy. there was another guy who i played with around the same time who was in the same team with Small and Reo-Coker at Wimbledon and who i thought was the best of the lot but he struggled when he got to reserve level and dropped down the leagues before quitting all together.

Did you ever play with Lionel Morgan?

 

[Romulus]

Did you ever play with Lionel Morgan?

big big talent. i never actually played in pro youth teams with them, i wasnt good enough . but all the wimbledon boys ever did was talk about how good this kid was so was delighted when he got older and was linked to spurs

 

[RichieS]

big big talent. i never actually played in pro youth teams with them, i wasnt good enough . but all the wimbledon boys ever did was talk about how good this kid was so was delighted when he got older and was linked to spurs

I remember him as a legend on CM03/04. We apparently were going to sign him for £400k but he failed the medical.

 

[Krafty]

The point is, where before a division 2 player might get a million quid for a promising player from a pl club now the premier league club only has to pay tens of thousands of pounds. They won't get paid the money for youngsters to afford to keep the academies open.

I'm not sure they got that much money before, the real money is taking them on that extra step and giving them first team exposure. Compare Zaha and Bostock and their fees, although I do agree that it will encourage bigger clubs to just sign every young kid with potential from other academies for a pittance and stock pile them in the hope one makes the grade.

I'll reserve judgement until I see it all unfold, but I don't think the previous system was all to effective either

 

[IGSpur]

Good to see our youngsters have found some other clubs, and while no world beater def thought RMP would be bale to find himself a better club. Always seemed dangerous when he came on for u18s played in a similar way to McEvoy.

Anyway came back to ask did anyone ever find out what happened in South Korea. When we had reports of beating PSG on pens and Dortmund and were due to play Barca in the final. As we know the OS never mentioned that but I'm sure Jack Roles wasn't just making stuff up.

 

[RickyVilla]

Good to see our youngsters have found some other clubs, and while no world beater def thought RMP would be bale to find himself a better club. Always seemed dangerous when he came on for u18s played in a similar way to McEvoy.

Anyway came back to ask did anyone ever find out what happened in South Korea. When we had reports of beating PSG on pens and Dortmund and were due to play Barca in the final. As we know the OS never mentioned that but I'm sure Jack Roles wasn't just making stuff up.

We won it mate.

http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/news/u16s-lift-south-korea-cup-290814/

 

[Yid-ol]

We won it mate.

http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/news/u16s-lift-south-korea-cup-290814/

Weird thing is no team roles talked about in his tweets seems to be mentioned in that report, strange.

 

[BehindEnemyLines]

We won it mate.

http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/news/u16s-lift-south-korea-cup-290814/

I think he'smore referring to the fact that there was confusion as to who we were playing and whether there was actually 2 tournaments (of different age groups u16 & u18???) as Jack Roles mentioned Barca in the final, whereas that report states Japan in the final (there were several other inconsistencies too)

 

[Yid-ol]

I think he'smore referring to the fact that there was confusion as to who we were playing and whether there was actually 2 tournaments (of different age groups u16 & u18???) as Jack Roles mentioned Barca in the final, whereas that report states Japan in the final (there were several other inconsistencies too)

Roles is listed in the squad for that one though. Unless we have two players called roles in the youths.

 

[King of Otters]

Not really a player were that excited about.

Think @Spursking may have something to say about that.

 

[IGSpur]

Roles is listed in the squad for that one though. Unless we have two players called roles in the youths.

Ye I saw that, which made it even more confusing. I doubt Roles is going to be posting lies, and nobody with a pulse especially a footballer would get confused between which teams they are playing.

So I wondered what he was referring to in his tweets.. We even played Japan early in the tournie he and Brown mentioned and got beat I think but then played them in the final

 

[newbie]

I think we lost in the group stages to japan but best them 4-3 in the knock out it is very confusing? I don't know where barca ect came from in his tweets I saw a lot of national teams mentioned. Very confused as well.

 

[Breezer]

http://m.tottenhamhotspur.com/news/u15s-triumphant-in-copenhagen-040914/

Last year I wrote a few comments after watching our under 15s. At the time I mentioned a player named Tashan. Arsenal were after him and even approached his parents unofficially. Glad to see he's still continuing his development at Spurs

 

[F_AN2CE]

Just saw Frank Arnesen doing his (e?) Europicks... The man knows talent at a young age, but f"¤k his (e?) economic or long term planning =)

(Why did he miss THAT amount of prospects?)

Ok, he got his (e?) first pro contract ahead of any Brazilian, and was 35 before the Bossman verdict, but who is he to claim Ronaldo, Romario or any other ROmanian as his (e?)...?

He still speaks poor Danish (for a Dane), lucky Eriksen spend time in Holland so that he can ignore him (and still get it).

- Off topic, sry!

 

[IGSpur]

Btw due to my need for closure I've been doing some cross referencing, and between all teh players on twitter this is what I worked out. Now when you read the official site, the scores are exactly the same at the same stages but with different teams. Here's a link to pics from the final I think .https://www.mydaily.co.kr/phototv/slide.htm?table_no=4930. Now they do look like Dortmund but I'd hope our players didn't think that as their kit was the same it was automatically that team they faced haha. I'm more inclined to believe the OS as I don't think they'd just make up random Japanese and SK names.

Aug 25th - Spurs 0 - 0 South Korea, Spurs 3 - 0 Australia
Aug 26th - Bilbao 0 - 0
Aug 28th - QF v Dortmund 3 -2
Aug 28th - SF v PSG - 0 -0 beat on penalties
Aug 29th F v Barca


Congrats to the u15s too although with our youth seems our OS is late again. One of the players tweets from Denmark about the semi, check the date.
@ReoGriffiths · Aug 16 Beat Sevilla in the semi final on pens after going down to 10 men when our keeper got sent of

http://m.tottenhamhotspur.com/news/u15s-triumphant-in-copenhagen-040914/

Last year I wrote a few comments after watching our under 15s. At the time I mentioned a player named Tashan. Arsenal were after him and even approached his parents unofficially. Glad to see he's still continuing his development at Spurs

Sorry I do not remember them. What did you say? Good in Riga team of tournie, and seems to be an u15 playing for our u16s too. Must be talented if others are hunting him