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The Annual Squad Analysis preperation for the Transfer Window Thread !

Spursidol

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Its that time of the year for a squad analysis to focus minds in the transfer window on who we might need.

Goalkeepers (3)
Hugo Lloris, Brad Friedel, Heurelho Gomes

Whilst Freidal remains a good goalkeeper despite his age, I imagine that if we see a decent goalkeeper at a bargain price, we will buy him as our no 2 – but not sure we will consider this as a necessity this summer. Gomes has another year on his contract, but be nice oif we could sell him for a fee in the summer. The best youth prospect, Jordan Archer, is probably at least 2 years away from being considered a first team goalkeeper – next stop for him is a League 1 or Championship loan – so if we don’t buy this summer it becomes a necessity next summer.

Centre Backs (4)
Younes Kaboul, Michael Dawson, Steven Caulker, Jan Vertonghen (William Gallas – end
of contract)

Cannot see any changes here, unless either we decide to upgrade on Michael Dawson or Younis
Kaboul does not come back from injury as good.


Full backs (5)
Kyle Walker, Benoit Assou-Ekotto, Kyle Naughton, Danny Rose, Adam Smith

It seems likely that AVB wants to change LB, in which case the question becomes whether Rose iis considered good enough (IMO he’s probably proved he is a candidate in his Sunderlandloan) or whether AVB wants to buy a new LB – either way expect BAE to move on. Youngster Zeki Fryers is a long way from first team consideration.

At RB, it’s a question as to whether AVB is confident enough in Adam Smith (who has played only 1 PL game) to deputise for Kyle Walker (and indeed at LB) to allow Kyle Naughton to be sold. If not, hopefully we see Adam Smith on a PL loan to complete his education.


Centre Midfield (8)
Moussa Dembele, Sandro, Tom Huddlestone, Lewis Holtby, Gylfi Sigurdsson, Scott Parker, Jake Livermore, Tom Carroll

Lots of players, even for a 433, so I think a minor sort out is due. IMO Huddlestone is possibly still not cutting it against top sides so may well go, but can we get a better back up to Dembele or do we keep both Huddlestone and Carroll as cover with Carroll being given more chances to show he can be the main man in time.

With Sandro, Scott Parker and probably Lewis Holtby covering the anchor position, I can see Jake Livermore moving on – particularly with youngster Massimo Luongo not being far away from the first team (I’d like to think he was involved in the first team pre-season).

Lastly I wonder if we are keeping Sigurdsson to be the AM in a 4231, so as to give several tactical options.

Winger/wide (3)
Gareth Bale, Aaron Lennon, Andros Townsend, (David Bentley – end of contract)

Cannot see any changes here, even if Bale moves to the centre.

Forwards (4)
Jermain Defoe, Emanuel Adebayor, Clint Dempsey, Harry Kane, (Other – Jonathan Obika)

Where do we start ? Ideally we sell Defoe for £7m - £10m with another younger decent striker capable of leading the line (and preferably also able to be a right sided or left sided forward) comes in.

Adebayor must be a conundrum for management – but I’m not sure we can sell him after one year, nor how many buyers there are and how many better strikers we can realistically buy, so I think he will stay. But I imagine he will be closely watched in pre-season to ensure he starts the season fit and in-form – unlike the season just gone 2012/13.

Dempsey is not a technically gifted player but clearly has an eye for goal and the assist and is tenacious to get them. I think he will stay as a squad player coming on as a left sided or right sided forward because of the goals and assists he brings – but if we can upgrade at the right price we will.

I think Kane will get another PL loan – in which case we may get another striker (preferably capable of playing wide right or left) either permanently or on loan.

Other striking options such as Shaq Coulthirst (18), Souleymane Coulibally (18) are too young whilst the inexperienced Cameron Lancaster is an unknown after injury and cannot see Jonathan Obika being an option.

Total Players = 27 (includes Carroll and Kane who will count as u 21’s)

Squad above includes : Club Trained (minimum 4) – Caulker, Rose, Smith, Livermore, Lennon, Bale, Townsend, plus u21’s Carroll, Kane excluding Obika

Other Association Trained (including club trained, minimum 8) - Dawson, Walker, Naughton, Sigurdsson, Parker, Defoe, Huddlestone




Conclusion

Don’t expect a major squad overhaul – the core of the squad for next season is in place.

Do expect a striker upgrade or two

Intriguing to see how the left full back situation evolves and a slight shake up in central midfield.

Do expect an opportunistic player purchase or two and maybe a youngster or two.
 

beats1

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Expect Livermore to go on loan or sold, Smith to be loaned or Naughton sold, Loan one of Bentaleb or Carroll and Kane
Want Defoe, Dempsey, Parker, Gomes, BAE and Hudd to go
Strangely that would leave us with 18 players


As for signings I expect
1 Striker
1 Striker/Winger
1 experienced CM
Anything top quality if available
21 players after the 3 needed players
 

Spursidol

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David Bentley has 1 year of his contract remaining (it ends on 30th June 2014).

Nope !
http://www1.skysports.com/football/...is-not-thinking-about-his-future-at-Tottenham

Most interesting sentance perhaps is :

'Bentley is out of contract at Tottenham in the summer and it seems unlikely he will be offered a new deal'.

and his quote ' "I'm out of contract with Tottenham in the summer' (Edit - later addition to text)

When acquired the OS said he had a contract of up to 6 years (which would have meant June 2014), so good to know it can run out in June 2013 or be extended by a year.
 

mpickard2087

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Right these are my honest thoughts, just to make it explicitly clear I DON'T EXPECT THIS TURNOVER OF PLAYERS, but lets chuck a grenade or two into this thread... :sneaky:

Keep (15 players):
Hugo Lloris

Kyle Walker
Younes Kaboul
Steven Caulker
Jan Vertonghen
Danny Rose

Scott Parker
Sandro
Mousa Dembele
Lewis Holtby
Tom Carroll

Aaron Lennon
Gareth Bale
Andros Townsend

Emmanuel Adebayor

Sell for decent offers:
Michael Dawson, Clint Dempsey, Glyfi Sigurdsson, Benoit Assou Ekotto.

Sell because they need to progress their careers somewhere else:
Kyle Naughton, Jake Livermore.

Fuck off:
Brad Friedel, Heurelho Gomes, Tom Huddlestone, David Bentley, Jermain Defoe.

So:

Squad Positions I think we should look to fill (7 players):
GK (Cover), RB (Cover), Left Back, Centre back (If Dawson goes), Creative Midfielder, Creative Mata/Silva type Wide player, Striker.

This would then leave a squad of 22 senior players, two players for each position in a 4-3-3 formation.
Squad can then be supplemented further by the numerous U21 players we have on our books.
 

Spurs_Bear

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Right these are my honest thoughts, just to make it explicitly clear I DON'T EXPECT THIS TURNOVER OF PLAYERS, lets chuck a grenade or two into this thread... :sneaky:

Keep (15 players):
Hugo Lloris

Kyle Walker
Younes Kaboul
Steven Caulker
Jan Vertonghen
Danny Rose

Scott Parker
Sandro
Mousa Dembele
Lewis Holtby
Tom Carroll

Aaron Lennon
Gareth Bale
Andros Townsend

Emmanuel Adebayor

Sell for decent offers:
Michael Dawson, Clint Dempsey, Glyfi Sigurdsson, Benoit Assou Ekotto.

Sell because they need to progress their careers somewhere else:
Kyle Naughton, Jake Livermore.

Fuck off:
Brad Friedel, Heurelho Gomes, David Bentley, Jermain Defoe.

So:

Squad Positions I think we should look to fill (7 players):
GK (Cover), RB (Cover), Left Back, Centre back (If Dawson goes), Creative Midfielder, Creative Mata/Silva type Wide player, Striker.

This would then leave a squad of 22 senior players, two players for each position in a 4-3-3 formation.
Squad can then be supplemented further by the numerous U21 players we have on our books.

That genuinely made me LOL.
 

michaelden

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Right these are my honest thoughts, just to make it explicitly clear I DON'T EXPECT THIS TURNOVER OF PLAYERS, lets chuck a grenade or two into this thread... :sneaky:

Keep (15 players):
Hugo Lloris

Kyle Walker
Younes Kaboul
Steven Caulker
Jan Vertonghen
Danny Rose

Scott Parker - eh?!
Sandro
Mousa Dembele
Lewis Holtby
Tom Carroll

Aaron Lennon
Gareth Bale
Andros Townsend

Emmanuel Adebayor

Sell for decent offers:
Michael Dawson, Clint Dempsey, Glyfi Sigurdsson - eh?!, Benoit Assou Ekotto.

Sell because they need to progress their careers somewhere else:
Kyle Naughton, Jake Livermore.

Fuck off:
Brad Friedel, Heurelho Gomes, David Bentley, Jermain Defoe.

So:
Squad Positions I think we should look to fill (7 players):
GK (Cover), RB (Cover), Left Back, Centre back (If Dawson goes), Creative Midfielder, Creative Mata/Silva type Wide player, Striker.

This would then leave a squad of 22 senior players, two players for each position in a 4-3-3 formation.
Squad can then be supplemented further by the numerous U21 players we have on our books.

Can't believe you're keeping Parker in a position we are inundated with cover & better players & getting rid of Sig when we have little cover out wide.

Not sure why we'd sell Naughton either unless a good offer came in for him. He is valuable cover at both RB & LB.
 

Spurs_Bear

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Can't believe you're keeping Parker in a position we are inundated with cover & better players & getting rid of Sig when we have little cover out wide.

Not sure why we'd sell Naughton either unless a good offer came in for him. He is valuable cover at both RB & LB.

I have to respectfully disagree and say I agree with the original post. I don't think Naughton is anywhere near decent cover, and I think you need CM cover, especially if something like what happens to Sandro was to happen again. For my Gylfi is a player that I'm very non-plussed about either way.
 

mpickard2087

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Can't believe you're keeping Parker in a position we are inundated with cover & better players & getting rid of Sig when we have little cover out wide.

Not sure why we'd sell Naughton either unless a good offer came in for him. He is valuable cover at both RB & LB.

Name me this vast amount of cover we have in centre midfield who have proven themselves for us...

Parker will be an experienced head which is needed. As I said, new creative centre mid will add to the competition and I see him getting fazed out over next season. But as of now as back-up for Sandro he has his role.

Sigurdsson is purely personal opinion, its no secret I'm not his biggest fan, but going forward I want to see a 4-3-3 and not sure where he fits into that more than anything. Long term can he make a fist of playing out wide?, unconvinced. Can he play as a pure centre mid?, again unconvinced.

Naughton is 25 this year and I can't see where he goes from here. I think we can replace him (just at RB, Rose +1 at LB sorts that position) and for his sake he should go play football somewhere. Ditto with Livermore.
 

JUSTINSIGNAL

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I think we will actively looked to sell:

Livermore, Naughton, Parker, Defoe, Gomes, Huddlestone, Gallas(release)

and probably consider offers for:

Adebayor, Dempsey, Rose, BAE


I don't think there will be a massive overhaul but I think it is clear to everyone that we need more quality depth in key positions - especially in the attacking third. I can see opportunistic buys happening such as Eriksen/Son and a hopefully a high level striker.

I know AVB doesn't wield much control over our transfer strategy but hopefully he has done enough to increase his influence.
 

mpickard2087

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We have the option on the extra year, can't imagine we'll take it up though.

I dunno about that, Levy has taken the option with players before to extend the contract (Gomes, Jenas), I guess in the forlorn hope of making some money back on them.
 

SteveH

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Cant suggest anything apart from the obvious ones, I would be just guessing.
One would need to be much closer to the players than I am.
AVB and Co will call it, we the fans dont see enough of these players to genuinely add much i.e Ade would be mowing the grass at the training ground, if you have listened to a large proportion of us on here.

So apart from the likes of Bentley, who thank christ is off.

I'll bow to the ginger bearded one's, greater knowledge.
 

michaelden

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I'd rather sell Parker and let the youth have a chance or Holtby
Naughton isn't terrible as cover and we're unlikely to buy a player for a position that's non-essential to fill

I think funds are limited and most will go on LD
 

stonecolddeanaustin

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I dunno about that, Levy has taken the option with players before to extend the contract (Gomes, Jenas), I guess in the forlorn hope of making some money back on them.

Didn't we get something like a couple of mill for Jenas from QPR? The fee was undisclosed but I think it was something like that so it might have just about paid off. No way it would with Bentley though. A year's salary for him would be at least £2.5 m and there's not a chance we'll get anything like that for him.

Back to the OP, I agree with most of that but think we need more depth on the wings as Lennon seems to be picking up more and more knocks these days. Not sure who I'd go for though.
 

talkshowhost86

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My list of priorities for the Summer would be:

1. Striker x 2
2. Winger/wide forward
3. Creative midfielder
4. Left back (x 2 if Benni leaves and Sunderland keep Rose)
5. Defensive midfield cover (to replace Parker)
6. Young goalkeeper
7. Ball playing centre back (to replace Dawson)

Obviously this is a long list and Parker and Dawson would be fine as cover if we can't get that far down the list.
 

ItsBoris

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Sell: Defoe, Huddlestone, Dempsey, Ekotto, Naughton, Rose, Parker + Friedel and Gallas leave.

Townsend brought back in. I would say sell Adebayor too but I don't know if we can. I think we can get an average of £5 million for the players we sell. So selling the above 7 we can generate about £35 million.

Buy:
1-2 strikers.
Left Back
Creative midfielder.

So idk something like Soldado, Leandro/Michu, Alex Sandro, Belhanda/Moutinho/Eriksen.
 

Spursidol

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Sell: Defoe, Huddlestone, Dempsey, Ekotto, Naughton, Rose, Parker + Friedel and Gallas leave.

Townsend brought back in. I would say sell Adebayor too but I don't know if we can. I think we can get an average of £5 million for the players we sell. So selling the above 7 we can generate about £35 million.

Buy:
1-2 strikers.
Left Back
Creative midfielder.

So idk something like Soldado, Leandro/Michu, Alex Sandro, Belhanda/Moutinho/Eriksen.

Think we might be able to aford the firstr 2 on the list Soldado & Michu - but then run out of money foir the rest !
 
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