The Annual Squad Analysis preperation for the Transfer Window Thread !

[Tottenham_God]

HAHA, I know I couldn't help myself...

To be fair if your analysis came true id cream in my jocks

 

[moomin]

Lloris (Friedel)​

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Walker (Naughton) Kaboul (Dawson) Vertonghen (Caulker) Rose (Naughton)​

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Dembele (Carroll) Sandro (Parker) Holtby (Siggy)​

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Townsend (Lennon) ?????? (Adebayor) Bale (??????)​

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That’s my starting lineup for next year, with the absolute bare minimum of incomings. I have a feeling AVB will take the offseason to move our team to a 4-3-3 formation, so my team/formation for next season reflects this. My opinion on whether Rose is ready to be our starting left back changes daily, but he's better suited for the 4-3-3 formation than BAE, as he is better going forward, and i'm trying to do the least amount of incoming transfers possible so i'll have him as the starting left back. I suspect holtby was brought in to play the LCM position in a 4-3-3 (remember that the original plan was he wasn’t going to come until summer, and only came early because schalke were willing to take a very low fee to get him early), so i will have him start there. I think he will be a totally different player in that position than he has been as the 4th choice CAM for us. My selection of townsend over lennon is because i feel he has more to offer us in the RW position than lennon. He’s been the lone ray of sunshine for the shit storm that is QPR this season. I think townsend will be given a chance in the offseason/preseason to compete with lennon for the starting spot and he will win. The rest i feel are self explanatory. AVB’s 4-3-3 at porto had hulk on the right side whom would cut in and play almost as a 2nd striker at times. Bale’s experience in the middle this season will have prepared him to take on a similar role for us. He will be very good on the wing and cutting/drifting in to the middle. He could very well play on the right wing as well since he’s stronger at shooting with his left foot, and townsend could play on the left. Both players are very flexible. Kaboul is a complete mystery at this point. We have no idea whether he will even come back the same from his injury, let alone be in AVB's plans/the starter. I'm crossing my fingers and slotting him in as the starter. That leaves a bare minimum of 2 players needed to be brought in this summer.​

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Incomings: Striker: David Villa, Leandro Damiao, Christian Benteke, Michu. Winger: Tom Ince, Junior Hoilett, Christian Atsu, Scott Sinclair, Mark Marin. Other: Ante Rebic.​

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These are some possibilities for the two positions i left open, above. in the last 24 hours we've been heavily linked with Villa, and he would be a brilliant addition for our striking position. he's only a couple years removed from being one of the very best strikers in the world and we would be incredibly lucky to have him. Don't really need to elaborate on any of Leandro, Benteke, or Michu. All are well known and the latter 2 are basically place-holders until the transfer is in full swing and some other names come out because i don't think we'll actually sign either. As for the backup wing position, Tom Ince would be a nice choice. It would probably be best for his development to loan him to a prem team but we wouldn't find a better backup option out there. He's a young, promising talent. Hoilett, Sinclair, and Marin are other, obvious options. All are in bad situations (Hoilett - relegation, Sinclair - burried on bench at city, Marin - same at chelsea) and could probably be brought in on the cheap just for the squad depth. We've been linked with Atsu ever since AVB became our manager so that's another obvious choice. Could certainly do worse than him for depth. Last but not least, I think we will add Ante Rebic. He wouldn't be one of the empty spots necessary to be added for next season, but i definitely think we will purchase him.​

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Outgoings: Dempsey (£8m), Huddlestone (£6m), Gallas (free), Benny (£12m), Bentley (free), Gomes (free)​

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In regards to outgoings: I feel like one of the AM’s will be moving on (holtby, siggy, dempsey) with the latter being the most likely. Competition is good to an extent but right now there's too many players of a similar skill level fighting for one position and it's hurting all of their values. Huddlestone simply doesn’t fit our team/philosophy anymore. He created some value for himself through his relatively decent performances at the end of the season so he’s bound to have SOME suitors. Benny being in the outgoing category is solely down to the perception that he is not liked/wanted by AVB. Bentley, Gomes and Gallas out are self-explanatory.​

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Loans: Livermore (Prem), A. Smith (Prem), Kane (Championship), I. Falque (La Liga)​

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It wouldn't make sense to sell Falque or Livermore yet. Falque seems to be building value for himself in the spanish segunda division, and could probably build more of it for himself here in the championship or at a lower level la liga team. His contract doesn't end until 2015 so there's not a rush to sell him now. Livermore can't break into the squad and whenever he does get an appearance he's been disappointing. He should be given a loan to a prem club to try and create value for himself. Worst case scenario he flops, and he won't make his value any less because it's already as low as it can get for a young, english player who's atleast somewhat functional at the premier league-level. Just doesn't make sense to sell him yet. Kane and Adam Smith are self explanatory. Adam smith seems to have succeeded at the championship level so we should seek out a prem loan for him. Kane needs more time at the championship level.​

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So just to recap, here would be our 2013/2014 lineup with my ideal scenarios of incomings:​

Lloris (Friedel)​

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Walker (Naughton) Kaboul (Dawson) Vertonghen (Caulker) Rose (Naughton)​

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Dembele (Carroll) Sandro (Parker) Holtby (Siggy)​

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Townsend (Lennon) Villa (Adebayor) Bale (Ince)​

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Outgoings: £26m​

Incomings: £25m (Villa £10m + Ince £9m + Rebic £6m)​

Total: +£1m gained​

it's not too much different from the roster we have now, so it might not be as exciting to look/drool/jizz at, but that's what i think our lineup will look like next season, with the bare minimum of roster additions. The most exciting part about next season for me won't be the incoming players but the formation change that i suspect will take place. If we do in fact change to a 4-3-3, It will result in much more attractive/exciting, attacking football for us.​

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[Harry_Snatch]

Anybody buying it this time around?

I might this time. if we don't this summer then we never will.

We are well overdue a touch up to the starting 11 in a couple of positions. There are some positions that need to be much more competitive. With the extra TV money the club really has no excuses for money this time and we will well and truly get left behind if we don't.

The big thing for me is Fergie retiring. It's the biggest window of opportunity since the Prem started. if Spurs do their usual in the transfer window this time around and blow it for another 20 years then I think we will all know where we really stand as fans of the club. This summer will genuinely show if the club is about ambition or profit.

 

[thinktank]

Anybody buying it this time around?

I might this time. if we don't this summer then we never will.

We are well overdue a touch up to the starting 11 in a couple of positions. There are some positions that need to be much more competitive. With the extra TV money the club really has no excuses for money this time and we will well and truly get left behind if we don't.

The big thing for me is Fergie retiring. It's the biggest window of opportunity since the Prem started. if Spurs do their usual in the transfer window this time around and blow it for another 20 years then I think we will all know where we really stand as fans of the club. This summer will genuinely show if the club is about ambition or profit.

A couple? I'd like to see a good few changes:

GK - Brad = slippers/pipe
RB - direct/serious competition for Walker
LB - benny's gonna be off, need an upgrade anyway - Rose back to compete for that position
RW - direct/serious competition for Lennon
CB - sell Daws (think we probably will)
DM - sell Parker
AM - Proper creative
3x Strikers - Villa, Benteke + cheaper prospect (and properly bring through one of our reserves as well)

Sell: Ade, Defoe, Daws, Benny, Parker, Hudd, Bentley and whomever else I've missed.

Need to address that lot between the end of this window and the end of Jan if we want to have a strong squad and properly compete across the competitions.

 

[sloth]

Anybody buying it this time around?

I might this time. if we don't this summer then we never will.

We are well overdue a touch up to the starting 11 in a couple of positions. There are some positions that need to be much more competitive. With the extra TV money the club really has no excuses for money this time and we will well and truly get left behind if we don't.

The big thing for me is Fergie retiring. It's the biggest window of opportunity since the Prem started. if Spurs do their usual in the transfer window this time around and blow it for another 20 years then I think we will all know where we really stand as fans of the club. This summer will genuinely show if the club is about ambition or profit.

What big talk? We never give any big talk... we never say anything about transfer targets at all!

 

[danielneeds]

Three things I think we were lacking this season.

1. A genuine leader of the line.

2. Pace and guile out wide once Bale was moved inside.

3. A genuine midfield schemer who was able to manage games effectively.


Sign a class striker, Villa would be a great shot term signing, Benteke would be great long-term, although we would be paying through the nose. Aubameyang looks like a great player too, don't know if he is gettable.

Obviously, Bale's goal scoring means he has to stay in the free role. IMO we need to completely revamp the left side of our team. Neither Siggy or Dempsey look comfortable filling in on the left of midfield, we need someone with pace and goals to come in, and at LB someone who contributes more offensively than BAE.

Still think Moutinho would elevate this team to another level alongside Sandro and Dembele. Would allow the latter more license to run with the ball and open teams up, and would use his experience to maneuvere the team around him.

 

[Harry_Snatch]

A couple? I'd like to see a good few changes:

GK - Brad = slippers/pipe
RB - direct/serious competition for Walker
LB - benny's gonna be off, need an upgrade anyway - Rose back to compete for that position
RW - direct/serious competition for Lennon
CB - sell Daws (think we probably will)
DM - sell Parker
AM - Proper creative
3x Strikers - Villa, Benteke + cheaper prospect (and properly bring through one of our reserves as well)

Sell: Ade, Defoe, Daws, Benny, Parker, Hudd, Bentley and whomever else I've missed.

Need to address that lot between the end of this window and the end of Jan if we want to have a strong squad and properly compete across the competitions.

I can agree with all that but I'd keep Adebayor. His form at the end of this season has shown what he can be when he wants.

Also

CM - sell Parker and bring in a genuine play maker that can keep the ball and set the tempo. Somebody for Carroll to learn the trade from.

AM/RW this is one player for me. They must have PACE. That's the big problem we had a lot of the season, when we had no Bale we lacked pace on the counter or anybody that had the technical skills to beat their man and cause a break in the line vs stubborn defenses.

2x Strikers Keep Ade, bring in 2 excellent scorers and give a youth some real off the bench and europa league minutes.

others with you 100%.

If a usual Spurs window happens we'll get 1 player in any of the areas we need and some good value players in positions we don't really need.

 

[talkshowhost86]

Well Archibald has said 5 are coming in with Rose and Townsend also returning, and has also said that Bentley, Gomes, Gallas, BAE, Hudd, Khumalo, Livermore and one of JD/Ade are off.

Of course it's highly unlikely that all that will happen but if we do sell those players, then that leaves the squad like this:

GK: Lloris, Friedel
RB: Walker, Naughton
LB: Rose
CB: Dawson, Kaboul, Vertonghen, Caulker
CM: Dembele, Sandro, Parker; Carroll
AM: Holtby, Sigurdsson, Dempsey
WF: Bale, Lennon, Townsend
STR: Adebayor (or Defoe)

Looking at that, I'd want the five to come in (in terms of positions) to be:

1. A striker
2. A striker
3. A central midfielder (like Moutinho)
4. A wide player
5. A left Back

 

[vegassd]

With the extra TV money the club really has no excuses for money this time and we will well and truly get left behind if we don't.

Even if we double the money that comes in from broadcast and merit payments it's only another 40-50m, which is obviously a lot of cash but might only equate to one top level player plus their wages. I think there is a limit to how much of the TV money is allowed to be spent on the playing staff, and it won't kick in until the end of next season anyway I don't think.

Plus, whatever bump we receive in TV money, the clubs around us will experience the same bump, if not more. I agree with you that we do need to spend on the first team, but I reckon it will be 2 or 3 players rather than 5 or 6.

I don't agree with what you say about our "usual" being to "blow it for another 20 years". That's so painfully untrue I don't know where to start. I also don't agree with your claim about lack of ambition. By your yardstick, does it mean that only Man City and Chelsea have any ambition? Any other club that doesn't spend 100m each Summer despite turnover is clearly rimming their fans, right?

I honestly don't understand where the idea of "lack of ambition" comes from.

 

[Harry_Snatch]

Even if we double the money that comes in from broadcast and merit payments it's only another 40-50m, which is obviously a lot of cash but might only equate to one top level player plus their wages. I think there is a limit to how much of the TV money is allowed to be spent on the playing staff, and it won't kick in until the end of next season anyway I don't think.

Plus, whatever bump we receive in TV money, the clubs around us will experience the same bump, if not more. I agree with you that we do need to spend on the first team, but I reckon it will be 2 or 3 players rather than 5 or 6.

I don't agree with what you say about our "usual" being to "blow it for another 20 years". That's so painfully untrue I don't know where to start. I also don't agree with your claim about lack of ambition. By your yardstick, does it mean that only Man City and Chelsea have any ambition? Any other club that doesn't spend 100m each Summer despite turnover is clearly rimming their fans, right?

I honestly don't understand where the idea of "lack of ambition" comes from.

ok mate.

 

[thinktank]

I can agree with all that but I'd keep Adebayor. His form at the end of this season has shown what he can be when he wants.

That's the bit we can't afford though, HS. Can't have a player like that for where we want to be. He's a liability in this respect and I really think we need to get rid of all our liabilities this season

Redknapp was the first to suss how sensitive Ade is and how insecure he is about his ability. He's too volatile in this respect. Look at someone like Benteke and how stable and consistent he is. That's what we need. Swap Benteke for Ade this season and we'd have been in the CL.

Just shows that you can't afford to have that sort of player who is so vulnerable to form swings.

 

[DEFchenkOE]

I want to see Adam Smith as the backup to Walker, he should be given a chance imo unless we can get him an epl loan.

Dont see us breaking our transfer record for Benteke, we need to find the next Benteke, think I'd probably prefer Michu anyway but doubt we could even get him.

It's a shame the likes of John Guidetti and Lukaku are owned by those money clubs as they are the exact type of young stroker I'd like us to bring in.

 

[Harry_Snatch]

That's the bit we can't afford though, HS. Can't have a player like that for where we want to be. He's a liability in this respect and I really think we need to get rid of all our liabilities this season

Redknapp was the first to suss how sensitive Ade is and how insecure he is about his ability. He's too volatile in this respect. Look at someone like Benteke and how stable and consistent he is. That's what we need. Swap Benteke for Ade this season and we'd have been in the CL.

Just shows that you can't afford to have that sort of player who is so vulnerable to form swings.

Not sure it's that simple mate. player coach relationship is massive for every player. Look at torres, Benitez comes back in and suddenly he is starting to look himself again. Before that you would have said he was done and before that you'd have said he was so good, he'd perform in any team.
There is no guarantee Benteke will be a world beater without Lmabert talking to him.

with Ade its motivation more than anything. Under Harry he was motivated to prove City wrong and keep enjoying the adulation of the fans and manager because he hadn't had that at City. Recently he has been motivated to prove the fans of Tottenham wrong. If we brought in competition, I could see it motivating him to prove the club wrong for bringing in a replacement.
When motivated he is among the best target men in world football. I don't think you sell a player like Ade.

 

[thinktank]

Not sure it's that simple mate. player coach relationship is massive for every player. Look at torres, Benitez comes back in and suddenly he is starting to look himself again. Before that you would have said he was done and before that you'd have said he was so good, he'd perform in any team.
There is no guarantee Benteke will be a world beater without Lmabert talking to him.

with Ade its motivation more than anything. Under Harry he was motivated to prove City wrong and keep enjoying the adulation of the fans and manager because he hadn't had that at City. Recently he has been motivated to prove the fans of Tottenham wrong. If we brought in competition, I could see it motivating him to prove the club wrong for bringing in a replacement.
When motivated he is among the best target men in world football. I don't think you sell a player like Ade.

I've run out of patience with him. He gets a whopping-ass wage and should at least run about a bit for us, but he didn't even do that, for long spells. Performed in the last 3 games of the season - coincidence?

I'd sell and bring in someone that is more stable performance-wise.

 

[WestBelfast Spurs]

send Carroll to a mid table club let him develop there

 

[Harry_Snatch]

I've run out of patience with him. He gets a whopping-ass wage and should at least run about a bit for us, but he didn't even do that, for long spells. Performed in the last 3 games of the season - coincidence?

I'd sell and bring in someone that is more stable performance-wise.

Can't really argue with you tbh mate. I attach a fair amount of blame on finishing 5th on his shoulders. If he'd been bothered half the season then we'd have cruised to 4th. Just sometimes as a Spurs fan it's ingrained in us to think about how good someone/something could be or was.

 

[talkshowhost86]

I want to see Adam Smith as the backup to Walker, he should be given a chance imo unless we can get him an epl loan.

Dont see us breaking our transfer record for Benteke, we need to find the next Benteke, think I'd probably prefer Michu anyway but doubt we could even get him.

It's a shame the likes of John Guidetti and Lukaku are owned by those money clubs as they are the exact type of young stroker I'd like us to bring in.

I think we should leave the young stroking to Mr Wenger down the road if that's okay with you.

 

[Spursh]

------------------------Lloris------------------------
-----------------------Friedel-----------------------

Walker-------Kaboul------Vertonghen----Shaw
Smith--------Caulker-----Marquinhos-----Rose

---------------Sandro-------Dembele-------------
------------Schneiderlin----McCarthy-------------
---------------------Sigurdsson--------------------
------------------------Holtby----------------------

-------Son--------------------------------Bale-----
-----Lennon--------------------------Townsend--
-----------------------Benteke---------------------
-----------------------Ferreyra---------------------

Just going on the possible appointment of Baldini, and his preference to sign young players, including ones from South America. Marquinhos is a young left footed CB from Roma, who's had a fantastic debut season by all accounts, but of course singing another CB will depend on whether AVB wants to keep Dawson. I hope he does, but I have this niggling feeling that he might be made available.

Shaw & Schneiderlin have been excellent for Southampton, with the latter near the top of all the stat charts in terms of ground covered, passing, tackling, & intercepting. Shaw is an obvious one, unless we want to give Rose a chance.

Really like the look of McCarthy at Wigan, looked a class above in a very inconsistent side. Played more of a holding role for them this season, but I think he has a lot of potential as a box-to-box midfielder, with some of the defensive shackles off.

We've been linked with Son Heung-Min for a while now, and he looks pretty perfect as an 'inside-winger' if AVB implements his favoured 4-3-3 system next year. Think he wants his attacking 3 upfront to all be strong, athletic, quick with a real eye for goal. Aubameyang from Saint-Etienne is another who fits the bill. Lennon may struggle as he doesn't fit the criteria that well, but we have to keep him as he is still a very effective player. Townsend could actually suit this system a little more than Aaron, as he's arguably more direct, and definitely not scared to shoot.

I think Defoe will be off, but I hope Adebayor follows too. Yes he would suit playing in that 4-3-3, but he is far too inconsistent to rely on him as our main striker again next year. His last 4-5 appearances are not enough to make up for a pretty awful season altogether from him.
There could be a whole host of strikers on the move this Summer. Soldado, Negredo, Higuain, Villa, Bony, Osvaldo, and many more have all been linked with us in the last year or so, but the one I want us to go for is Benteke. I think he has everything in his game to become a truly top-level CF, and he's proved in his first season for a struggling side that he can been prolific in the PL. He is quick, extremely strong, scary in the air, and can finish too. I also think his technical ability is very under-rated, as he's been brilliant for Villa with back-to-goal and bringing others into play. He will cost a fair bit, but at 22, I think he's worth it.
Ferreyra is a young & very highly rated Argentine CF for Velez, with 14 goals in 17 apps for them this year, as his side won the Championship. Again he would seem to be a player Baldini would be very interested in, and someone like him would be perfect as understudy to Benteke. That or we keep Dempsey around as versatile cover for the positions across the attacking line.

7 players in is probably optimistic, but I do think we need real strengthening in those types of areas, and the players I've mentioned are all 23 and under, with the likes of McCarthy, Schneiderlin, & Shaw all having learnt their trade in Britain. Oh & I would like to see Carroll loaned out to a PL side next season, somewhere like Swansea or Southampton, as I don't think he is quite ready for our side but definitely has quality.

 

[knilly]

Id like to see Rose & Townsend brought into our squad next season. Smith, Kane & Carol will probably have loans arranged.

We need the mythical uber striker to boost our goals for column. Whoever that is

Other than that im pretty happy with our squad. Maybe Tom Ince as competition for the right wing, which would leave us with 4 pacey players, something we've lacked at times this year. Maybe Morgan Sneiderlin (sp) from Southampton if we were to move Parker on.

 

[Disconosebleed]

------------------------Lloris------------------------
-----------------------Friedel-----------------------

Walker-------Kaboul------Vertonghen----Shaw
Smith--------Caulker-----Marquinhos-----Rose

---------------Sandro-------Dembele-------------
------------Schneiderlin----McCarthy-------------
---------------------Sigurdsson--------------------
------------------------Holtby----------------------

-------Son--------------------------------Bale-----
-----Lennon--------------------------Townsend--
-----------------------Benteke---------------------
-----------------------Ferreyra---------------------

Just going on the possible appointment of Baldini, and his preference to sign young players, including ones from South America. Marquinhos is a young left footed CB from Roma, who's had a fantastic debut season by all accounts, but of course singing another CB will depend on whether AVB wants to keep Dawson. I hope he does, but I have this niggling feeling that he might be made available.

Shaw & Schneiderlin have been excellent for Southampton, with the latter near the top of all the stat charts in terms of ground covered, passing, tackling, & intercepting. Shaw is an obvious one, unless we want to give Rose a chance.

Really like the look of McCarthy at Wigan, looked a class above in a very inconsistent side. Played more of a holding role for them this season, but I think he has a lot of potential as a box-to-box midfielder, with some of the defensive shackles off.

We've been linked with Son Heung-Min for a while now, and he looks pretty perfect as an 'inside-winger' if AVB implements his favoured 4-3-3 system next year. Think he wants his attacking 3 upfront to all be strong, athletic, quick with a real eye for goal. Aubameyang from Saint-Etienne is another who fits the bill. Lennon may struggle as he doesn't fit the criteria that well, but we have to keep him as he is still a very effective player. Townsend could actually suit this system a little more than Aaron, as he's arguably more direct, and definitely not scared to shoot.

I think Defoe will be off, but I hope Adebayor follows too. Yes he would suit playing in that 4-3-3, but he is far too inconsistent to rely on him as our main striker again next year. His last 4-5 appearances are not enough to make up for a pretty awful season altogether from him.
There could be a whole host of strikers on the move this Summer. Soldado, Negredo, Higuain, Villa, Bony, Osvaldo, and many more have all been linked with us in the last year or so, but the one I want us to go for is Benteke. I think he has everything in his game to become a truly top-level CF, and he's proved in his first season for a struggling side that he can been prolific in the PL. He is quick, extremely strong, scary in the air, and can finish too. I also think his technical ability is very under-rated, as he's been brilliant for Villa with back-to-goal and bringing others into play. He will cost a fair bit, but at 22, I think he's worth it.
Ferreyra is a young & very highly rated Argentine CF for Velez, with 14 goals in 17 apps for them this year, as his side won the Championship. Again he would seem to be a player Baldini would be very interested in, and someone like him would be perfect as understudy to Benteke. That or we keep Dempsey around as versatile cover for the positions across the attacking line.

7 players in is probably optimistic, but I do think we need real strengthening in those types of areas, and the players I've mentioned are all 23 and under, with the likes of McCarthy, Schneiderlin, & Shaw all having learnt their trade in Britain. Oh & I would like to see Carroll loaned out to a PL side next season, somewhere like Swansea or Southampton, as I don't think he is quite ready for our side but definitely has quality.

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