The Daily ITK Discussion Thread 13th May

[knowlespurs]

I imagine many of the players will be jetting off to join national teams and/or vacations. Anyone know what timetable they have? If ITK is on point I can't imagine there is a large window of time to complete contract ups unless some are already done and just need pen to paper and media day.

think they all have a week or so off

 

[ValenciaYid]

I have no doubt Levy will put his money where his mouth is and support Poch......

 

[Matthew]

Had the same at work this morning from Liverpool and Palace fans. Talksport too. Thing is can't blame them looking at the past and expecting different.

That said I do believe we will make a statement this summer, shit or twist seems right, will blow a lot of tiny minds.

yeah, id like to believe it too, just to watch people sit back and think, oh shit! maybe spurs are serious.

 

[wishkah]

I have no doubt Levy will put his money where his mouth is and support Poch......

Agree with ya buddy. It seems the only logical answer in order to stay still, let alone progress. Given we are on the cusp not backing the manager would undo so much good work (and potential revenue too).

My only fear is we have not factored the cost of the stadium in. We all view it as an excuse to spend more not spend less. Which could well be true.

The ITK tends to support this motion, let's hope we start seeing contacts and other positive news soon.

 

[thelak]

I agree with what you're saying. The problem I have is that isn't this a similar situation to when we qualified for the CL under Redknapp? I know the TV revenue wasn't as big then, but on the flip side we didn't have the stadium to pay for.

As ever, it's encouraging, but I'll believe it when I see it.

huge difference between Arry “they’ve neva ad it so good” qualifying in a relative one off using a few special players vs 3 CL in a row under Mo Po - what we have achieved in the last few years is far more sustainable than the Arry period and we are a far bigger global brand and draw now than then - a big signing now may pay generate way more in global shirt sales than 6-7 years for example even though clearly asking price for an equivalent player a lot more too

 

[Haddock]

all the evidence points to the fact that Poch wanted Sissoko

Baffling if true. Two seasons ago I distinctly remember Pochettino saying that he wanted more urgency and speed up front. This was around the same time that Mané was on fire for Southampton. Can't remember what the ITK said at the time but I always assumed we were in for Mané and that Sissoko was a last minute solution.

 

[ValenciaYid]

Agree with ya buddy. It seems the only logical answer in order to stay still, let alone progress. Given we are on the cusp not backing the manager would undo so much good work (and potential revenue too).

My only fear is we have not factored the cost of the stadium in. We all view it as an excuse to spend more not spend less. Which could well be true.

The ITK tends to support this motion, let's hope we start seeing contacts and other positive news soon.

Given the fact we are about to move into a most amazing new stadium, one of the best in the world, we will give it and its investment the respect it deserves and that is by ensuring we have the best team possible within our operating ability to put out.

The other thing of course when we find and buy players like JV, TA, CE, DA, should we insist we pay more? Spurs continue to prove that its not about spending big money on players and Poch would agree. Further Levy has proved he will spend money. 42m on a 21 year old is hardly being a tight ****....

All roads lead back to the performance on the pitch, that can make you or break you.....

 

[felmani26]

We're not going to be spending much this summer - Paul Merson told us all.

"£5m-£6m 'gems'..." is apparently our MO what with us having to sell Harry Kane to finance the stadium.....

 

[SpartanSpur]

Given the fact we are about to move into a most amazing new stadium, one of the best in the world, we will give it and its investment the respect it deserves and that is by ensuring we have the best team possible within our operating ability to put out.

The other thing of course when we find and buy players like JV, TA, CE, DA, should we insist we pay more? Spurs continue to prove that its not about spending big money on players and Poch would agree. Further Levy has proved he will spend money. 42m on a 21 year old is hardly being a tight ****....

It's amazing how much of a blind spot there has been to us paying 40m for a CB last season, especially externally, when we already had the best pairing in the league.

 

[Deleted member 27995]

We're not going to be spending much this summer - Paul Merson told us all.

"£5m-£6m 'gems'..." is apparently our MO what with us having to sell Harry Kane to finance the stadium.....

Considering Harry is worth as much as Ryan Sessegnon I'd say we're fucked ...

 

[WalkerboyUK]

Agree with ya buddy. It seems the only logical answer in order to stay still, let alone progress. Given we are on the cusp not backing the manager would undo so much good work (and potential revenue too).

My only fear is we have not factored the cost of the stadium in. We all view it as an excuse to spend more not spend less. Which could well be true.

The ITK tends to support this motion, let's hope we start seeing contacts and other positive news soon.

And if Poch were not to be backed, and decided to walk away, we know a few players will be trying to follow him out the door very quickly.
The ball is 100% in Levy's court right now.
His choice seems to be to either spend approx. £150 million this summer on two/three players that will transform the squad, or find himself spending double that trying to rebuild completely...

 

[Riandor]

The thing is, unless you're super cash rich, at some point you have got to take a degree of risk to break up the big boys monopoly or rely on a degree of good fortune (see Leicester). So now that we are a top 4 mainstay, by and large, we have two options.
1. Spend enough to try and maintain what we have
2. Take that risk and hope that through shrewd, but larger purchases, the risk bears fruit to warrant the outlay.

I think it's fair to say that Players of Kane, Eriksen, Toby, etc... will not Play along with Option 1, we already see that with Toby now and I doubt Kane or Eriksen would sign contract extensions if Option 1 was the only one Levy considers. Poch for sure now feels he has proven himself enough to warrant pushing for Option 2 and by all accounts Levy understands this.

At the end of the day Levy is a businessman and whilst that counts against lavish spending, rightly so, there always come's a time whereby large Investment can yield larger returns, but it's about having the firm base to counternance any mistakes and judging the timing. I really think now is the time.

New Stadium, New naming rights, recurring CL involvement. We are now what I would call stable at this new level and now is the time to capitalise. The pressure is on Levy and Poch, to show that Spurs are not content to play for the 4th place "trophy", but that that is the new minimum and that real silverware is the aim.

 

[dirtyh]

We're not going to be spending much this summer - Paul Merson told us all.

"£5m-£6m 'gems'..." is apparently our MO what with us having to sell Harry Kane to finance the stadium.....

Merson just cracks me up. Am sure he does it on purpose just for the lols as no one could really be that stupid. Am sure he would need a map just to find his own ass and he belongs in the zoo flinging shit at the other apes

 

[Derryank]

It's time for Levy and Lewis to shit (Not a spelling mistake) or twist, been told similar to Hercules, contracts first then signings. Lists of "Not wanted " and wanted already given

Thanks Grey Fox. Appreciate the info

 

[JR1994]

Merson just cracks me up. Am sure he does it on purpose just for the lols as no one could really be that stupid. Am sure he would need a map just to find his own ass and he belongs in the zoo flinging shit at the other apes

Blokes an absolute moron. How him souness and half the sky team are pundits is beyond me

 

[SpartanSpur]

The thing is, unless you're super cash rich, at some point you have got to a degree of risk to break up the big boys monopoly or rely on a degree of good fortune (see Leicester). So now that we are a top 4 mainstay, by and large, we have two options.
1. Spend enough to try and maintain what we have
2. Take that risk and hope that through shrewd, but larger purchases, the risk bears fruit to warrant the outlay.

I think it's fair to say that Players of Kane, Eriksen, Toby, etc... will not Play along with Option 1, we already see that with Toby now and I doubt Kane or Eriksen would sign contract extensions if Option 1 was the only one Levy considers. Poch for sure now feels he has proven himself enough to warrant pushing for Option 2 and by all accounts Levy understands this.

At the end of the day Levy is a businessman and whilst that Counts against lavish spending, rightly so, there always come's a time whereby large Investment can yield larger returns, but it's about having the firm base to counternance any mistakes and judging the timing. I really think now is the time.

New Stadium, New naming rights, recurring CL involvement. We are now what I would call stable at this new level and now is the time to capitalise. The pressure is on Levy and Poch, to show that Spurs are not content to play for the 4th place "trophy", but that that is the new minimum and that real silverware is the aim.

Spot on. Our only real way to catch up with the rest of the top English sides in a sustainable way is to improve our commercial revenue (especially with domestic TV revenue looking to have peaked, or at least slow) and never has the spot light on us been bigger. Couple of big seasons in the shiny new home and our seat at the top table could be set.

Massive summer ahead.

 

[Westmorlandspur]

I do hope this means that Levy won't try to haggle and drag out deals. A part of me love that aspect of Levy but we all know the importance of 1) Getting the target the manager wants 2) Getting the targets in as early as possible. Pochettino obviously wanted Mané but got Sissoko. Mané cost £4 million more than Sissoko.

There is always the possibility that a player we want chooses another club but if we're not even prepared to pay what other clubs are prepared to pay we're not even contending.

I think it was the wages that killed us re Mane. We also tried to sign him when he went to Saints. There was also a story that Winaldum had been to Poch’s house but again we couldn’t compete on wages. Looks like it’s about to change

 

[longtimespur]

Thanks to GF, as usual.

One thing about his input........ why will the new contracts be sorted first?
Surely some players will want a positive sign from the club that we are going to invest in/buy top players.
Actually make purchases not hearsay.
I'm not so sure they'll accept Daniels word readily and will want to see the new players signed before committing themselves to longer contracts even if including a pay rise.

 

[SpartanSpur]

Thanks to GF, as usual.

One thing about his input........ why will the new contracts be sorted first?
Surely some players will want a positive sign from the club that we are going to invest in/buy top players.
Actually make purchases not hearsay.
I'm not so sure they'll accept Daniels word readily and will want to see the new players signed before committing themselves to longer contracts even if including a pay rise.

If Levy can convince Poch to sign beforehand, maybe that would be enough. However this would also explain why there has been mention of us trying to get some priority signings in early.

 

[rawhide]

Thanks to GF, as usual.

One thing about his input........ why will the new contracts be sorted first?
Surely some players will want a positive sign from the club that we are going to invest in/buy top players.
Actually make purchases not hearsay.
I'm not so sure they'll accept Daniels word readily and will want to see the new players signed before committing themselves to longer contracts even if including a pay rise.

Surly the aim is to pay your current team/squad what they are worth, which lessens the risk of pissing them off as and when the marquee signings are made on fat contracts.