The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - 14th December 2011

[The Journalist]

Re; “archibald’s” info.

Regarding Pienaar I told everybody about Villa’s enquiry, so I agree with that.
Regarding Milito; In summer I messaged Bill Oddie about rumours surrounding Milito but never published it as they were just talk. Dont know if he remembers but I still have the messages to prove it. There could definitely be something in that. He did interest tottenham but I dont think he was that high up on the list.

 

[ryantegan]

Personally, I haven't, and, whenever the subject of Leandro comes up, I keep saying that I can't imagine us doing this and getting no tangible benefits. There was, however, another Inter player we were linked with since August, wasn't there?

Sandro? Turned out to be a good deal didnt it

I just think that with all we have invested on this deal there will be a positive outcome. From the way I read it, If the deal was dead we would have made more permanent moves elsewhere during the summer. We didnt so I still beleive this is on

 

[Snuzzy]

Re; “archibald’s” info.

Regarding Pienaar I told everybody about Villa’s enquiry, so I agree with that.
Regarding Milito; In summer I messaged Bill Oddie about rumours surrounding Milito but never published it as they were just talk. Dont know if he remembers but I still have the messages to prove it. There could definitely be something in that. He did interest tottenham but I dont think he was that high up on the list.

According to other rumours around, there's no way Villa COULD loan him as you aren't allowed more than one loan from the same club in the same season (in the Prem). Surely Villa would know this?

 

[gibbospurs]

According to other rumours around, there's no way Villa COULD loan him as you aren't allowed more than one loan from the same club in the same season (in the Prem). Surely Villa would know this?

Yes but surely if they pay up the wage bill they could termanate the deal. I think common sense would be sought from the FA. ( common sense and FA in the same sentance.mg

 

[THOWIG]

He may not be as fast as Ronaldo but he is very powerful, very skilful and unexpected in what he does as well as being strong

He's not fast and I wouldn't say he was particularly powerful. He has a great first touch and is excellent in the air.

 

[gibbospurs]

He's not fast and I wouldn't say he was particularly powerful. He has a great first touch and is excellent in the air.

Looks quite quick on you tube! saying that he could be up against a player of my pace.??

 

[StartingPrice]

Sandro? Turned out to be a good deal didnt it

I just think that with all we have invested on this deal there will be a positive outcome. From the way I read it, If the deal was dead we would have made more permanent moves elsewhere during the summer. We didnt so I still beleive this is on

Que?

I think you have misunderstood me.

I know we got Sandro form Inter. I know he has turned out well and looks a bit of a bargain.

It might be easier for you to understand if you read the Leandro thread, where myself and BrasilSpur had a discussion concerning the nature of our relationship with Inter.

Basically, Inter benefit from getting inside help on such things as financial structuring form one of the best run clubs in one of the top leagues in the World. But they are not likely, for all of these benefits, to want to look like our Feeder club. So, they are as likely to really push for a hard-bargain as just to roll-over and give us what we want on the cheap.

For us, on the other hand, the most tangible benefit is to get an A1 superhighway into some of the best young talent coming out of Brazil (and when have we had that, before :shrug. Not just once, not just for one player, but as an ongoing thing.

So the negotiations for Leandro may have been difficult and drawn out. They may have wanted considerably more than Levy initially wanted to pay. Indeed, in this instance, we may not actually get Leandro. But, to re-state, we must get tangible benefits from the relationship - more than just one player, once, otherwise I doubt Levy would have went ahead with it. he would have been more likely to offer to sell Inter the know-how. That makes me think that there is a good chance of this deal happening, or of it having already been struck.

 

[THOWIG]

Looks quite quick on you tube! saying that he could be up against a player of my pace.??

I was a bit harsh maybe. He's pretty strong too.

 

[Spurrific]

He's not fast and I wouldn't say he was particularly powerful. He has a great first touch and is excellent in the air.

Ronaldo wasn't that fast either really. The comparisons will be drawn from the fact that both are Brazilian, both skilful and both good finishers.

 

[The Journalist]

According to other rumours around, there's no way Villa COULD loan him as you aren't allowed more than one loan from the same club in the same season (in the Prem). Surely Villa would know this?

Check article 10 of fifas rules on the purchasing of players. IF/When villa decide to terminate Jenas deal, which i gave some info earlier in the day on this forum, there is no legal reasons they cant loan another Tottenham player, as long as it follows article 5 rules on minimum loan period.

 

[Snuzzy]

not FIFA rules, Premier League rules.

 

[ChristianBaler]

People shouldnt lose sight of this

http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/new...nternacionalannouncestrategicpartnership.html

It's been mentioned on here before I think but I'm pretty sure our agreement does not involve us having "first refusal" on their players. We can most certainly use it to our advantage when trying to sign Leandro but anything can happen....

Unless you know something we dont :grin:

Apparently this link says we do, not sure how much SSN knows about it though....http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11675_7249339,00.html

 

[StartingPrice]

It's been mentioned on here before I think but I'm pretty sure our agreement does not involve us having "first refusal" on their players. We can most certainly use it to our advantage when trying to sign Leandro but anything can happen....

Unless you know something we dont :grin:

I suspect that Ryan was hinting that he knew something we don't :wink:

 

[ChristianBaler]

There was, however, another Inter player we were linked with since August, wasn't there?

Yes Oscar, excellent player

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11675_7249339,00.html

 

[ChristianBaler]

I suspect that Ryan was hinting that he knew something we don't :wink:

ha ha yeah I figured he did.

 

[ChristianBaler]

Que?

I think you have misunderstood me.

I know we got Sandro form Inter. I know he has turned out well and looks a bit of a bargain.

It might be easier for you to understand if you read the Leandro thread, where myself and BrasilSpur had a discussion concerning the nature of our relationship with Inter.

Basically, Inter benefit from getting inside help on such things as financial structuring form one of the best run clubs in one of the top leagues in the World. But they are not likely, for all of these benefits, to want to look like our Feeder club. So, they are as likely to really push for a hard-bargain as just to roll-over and give us what we want on the cheap.

For us, on the other hand, the most tangible benefit is to get an A1 superhighway into some of the best young talent coming out of Brazil (and when have we had that, before :shrug. Not just once, not just for one player, but as an ongoing thing.

So the negotiations for Leandro may have been difficult and drawn out. They may have wanted considerably more than Levy initially wanted to pay. Indeed, in this instance, we may not actually get Leandro. But, to re-state, we must get tangible benefits from the relationship - more than just one player, once, otherwise I doubt Levy would have went ahead with it. he would have been more likely to offer to sell Inter the know-how. That makes me think that there is a good chance of this deal happening, or of it having already been struck.

Great post, very informative

 

[StartingPrice]

Great post, very informative

Really...I thought I was ranting a bit. Still have daps of bubbly spittle lining my lips
And a lot of it is guesswork, because we don't actually know the ins-and-outs of the agreement, TBH.

 

[bubble07]

Leandro Podolski and Hoillet in and get rid of Pav Gio Pienaar. Nothing more needed

Plus sell Corluka and Bassong to raise funds. Net spend approx 15m

 

[ryantegan]

Que?

I think you have misunderstood me.

I know we got Sandro form Inter. I know he has turned out well and looks a bit of a bargain.

It might be easier for you to understand if you read the Leandro thread, where myself and BrasilSpur had a discussion concerning the nature of our relationship with Inter.

Basically, Inter benefit from getting inside help on such things as financial structuring form one of the best run clubs in one of the top leagues in the World. But they are not likely, for all of these benefits, to want to look like our Feeder club. So, they are as likely to really push for a hard-bargain as just to roll-over and give us what we want on the cheap.

For us, on the other hand, the most tangible benefit is to get an A1 superhighway into some of the best young talent coming out of Brazil (and when have we had that, before :shrug. Not just once, not just for one player, but as an ongoing thing.

So the negotiations for Leandro may have been difficult and drawn out. They may have wanted considerably more than Levy initially wanted to pay. Indeed, in this instance, we may not actually get Leandro. But, to re-state, we must get tangible benefits from the relationship - more than just one player, once, otherwise I doubt Levy would have went ahead with it. he would have been more likely to offer to sell Inter the know-how. That makes me think that there is a good chance of this deal happening, or of it having already been struck.

Im agreeing with you :roll:

 

[ryantegan]

Im not for one second suggesting that we feeder club rights, just highlighting that our position as partners to Internacional should help us reach a positive conclusion.

I beleive that we never gave up on leandro, merely respected the fact Inter want to keep him a little longer. If we had given up, then I beleive we would have looked elsewhere in the summer with a permanent addition