The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - 21st July 2015

[lemony snickets]

Rooney was a liability. Shagging prostitutes, chewing gum on tv etc...

That's giving brass'es a bad name, Rooney was & possibly still is, bashing the front doors off of grannies.

 

[Imnotacticalgenius]

I find it interesting that many of the Forward/WF that we are link by both Media and ITKs are mostly LWF. Why interesting? Coz we are definitely better/more stable in the LW/LWF position (Chadli and Pritchard) than the RW/RWF position. Why is it so? Is it all a smokescreen?

 

[Blockbuster]

We just need to ask Kane, Pritchard, Dier and Carroll what they make of Berahino, if they like him, we should go for it.

 

[EZSpur]

Ultimately though he gets goals, can play as a wide man, can play on his own up the middle, already has successful experience of partnering our top scorer, and is likely to be available for a relatively reasonable sum.

Looking it at that way, it's hard to see many reasons why we wouldn't go for it, but there's something about it that doesn't quite feel right.

Totally agree!
I quite like him and believe he can do a job for us.
I guess all 'good' players have a touch of arrogance about them - which is fine, as long as they keep delivering and don't cause a ruckus in the dressing room!

Perhaps the question should be; Can Poch pull him into shape??
After all, he is supposed to work wonders with developing players!

 

[jezz]

To me we should go out and get him - especially if it is anything like the £15m reported in the press. The chances of us now going out and buying say a Sturridge for that price are now gone. Got to speculate a little and you would hope that the club have done their diligence on the guys character. Worth the gamble and we could have a player worth quite a bit in the future if he progresses as we'd hope. I like the idea. the guys also sharp and has pace. We lack sharpness and quick movement.

In addition - the 'so called character flaws' are kind of minor when you really look at them and analyse them. Stupidity and age really.

We've had a Sturridge already.
He went under the name Darren Anderton aka sick note.

 

[Bill_Oddie]

Sending Ade on loan is good news for us. He bloody loves scoring against his old clubs and if he's on loan he won't be allowed to play us.

Advantage Hotspur.

 

[jezz]

We just need to ask Kane, Pritchard, Dier and Carroll what they make of Berahino, if they like him, we should go for it.

We did the same thing with the captains role last year, no thanks

 

[shelfboy68]

Berahino is an interesting one.

I thought he was going to be a bit of a flash in the pan, and it would still be a gamble based on one relatively good season.

There's also the questions over his attitude, though to be fair if he'd been a complete arse then Pulis would have hung him out to dry and that hasn't happened.

Ultimately though he gets goals, can play as a wide man, can play on his own up the middle, already has successful experience of partnering our top scorer, and is likely to be available for a relatively reasonable sum.

Looking it at that way, it's hard to see many reasons why we wouldn't go for it, but there's something about it that doesn't quite feel right.

Every player is a gamble to a greater or lesser degree but sometimes you have to bite the bullet and take a punt, sometimes the club is a bit too cautious.
Myself i would be happy with berahino i think he has more goals to his game than say ings who we were interested in,another dozen goals scored this season with maybe a dozen less conceded might Just throw us into top four contention.

 

[sebcole]

Was stambouli a Poch signing?

 

[MaccSpurs]

So that's 1 defender & 4 Central Midfielders out of Spurs squad in a month. 2 potential first XI defenders in.
For first time, I get the feeling club is doing the transfer business based on a well defined plan.

That well defined plan is pretty simple really.

Ask the manager what he wants and not some director of football.

 

[MaccSpurs]

Was stambouli a Poch signing?

After one season and just eleven games it would suggest not.

 

[alexis]

I'm not so sure that's totally accurate as you can't really compare contract work to regular full-time work. Plenty here who have done contract work would probably tell you that they'll often be willing to take a pay cut to gain a longer more secure contract. Ade only has the one year left with us, if many of us were on a contract job with an unknown future we'd probably take the slight cut for something like and additional 3 or 4 years of security.

Got Mid East move all over it for 2016/17

 

[EZSpur]

Was stambouli a Poch signing?

Think he was! Albeit a last-minute job, when everything went pear-shaped on the Schneiderlein deal and other targets!

 

[SpartanSpur]

To me we should go out and get him - especially if it is anything like the £15m reported in the press. The chances of us now going out and buying say a Sturridge for that price are now gone. Got to speculate a little and you would hope that the club have done their diligence on the guys character. Worth the gamble and we could have a player worth quite a bit in the future if he progresses as we'd hope. I like the idea. the guys also sharp and has pace. We lack sharpness and quick movement.

In addition - the 'so called character flaws' are kind of minor when you really look at them and analyse them. Stupidity and age really.

To be fair there are a ton of similarities between Sturridge and Berahino, Sturridge had less off field attitude issues but was very vocal about his disappointments with Chelsea. Injuries aside Liverpool took a punt and got a bargain. SB is the same opportunity for me albeit more expensive.

 

[MaccSpurs]

So Stambouli has just won the French title before kicking a ball.

 

[Lilbaz]

That well defined plan is pretty simple really.

Ask the manager what he wants and not some director of football.

The problem is the manager hasn't got time to go out and scout players. Find out how much they would cost, wages etc... Find out their history, fitness, attitude etc... Negotiate with the other club and sign the player. Or find if there are more suitable alternatives. All the while training the first team.

This is why you need more than one person.

 

[Gbspurs]

Sending Ade on loan is good news for us. He bloody loves scoring against his old clubs and if he's on loan he won't be allowed to play us.

Advantage Hotspur.

Getting him out regardless is a good deal for us. I'm pretty sure we can't expect anyone to pay us for him.

 

[thinktank]

Berahino is an interesting one.

I thought he was going to be a bit of a flash in the pan, and it would still be a gamble based on one relatively good season.

There's also the questions over his attitude, though to be fair if he'd been a complete arse then Pulis would have hung him out to dry and that hasn't happened.

Ultimately though he gets goals, can play as a wide man, can play on his own up the middle, already has successful experience of partnering our top scorer, and is likely to be available for a relatively reasonable sum.

Looking it at that way, it's hard to see many reasons why we wouldn't go for it, but there's something about it that doesn't quite feel right.

He's not a team-player. I've never once got that sense from him. That's my main concern.

I'd actually rather Moses between the two (gun to head) as he is blood and guts for the team.

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

Was stambouli a Poch signing?

ITK suggests we agreed to pick him up as a fall back option when MS didn't look like happening. He was actually Southamptons back up option if MS ever left, so highly rated by them as well.

 

[robin09]

So Stambouli has just won the French title before kicking a ball.

We were just a stepping stone.