The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - 26th August 2021

[Jody]

The point I keep making is that, that would be ok if Son wasnt a regular. But because he plays every game that isnt "back-up". The back up to Kane is Scarlett. And I dont think a 17 year lad learning his trade is the correct back up for what we want to achieve.

Again, if Kane gets injured we burn out Sonny.

Yep, agree. Not sure why the club can’t work that one out?

 

[Stoof]

- Moriba
- Tomiyasu
- Traore

Surely thats the first choice 3 based on reports.

Don’t start guessing obvs

 

[danny32]

They may disagree all they like but they have nothing to do with Spurs, where Aurier has been a true professional. This is where he is judged

Like when he left the stadium at half time v Liverpool after being subbed and criticised by Mourinnho earlier this year.

 

[Majick]

So, I wonder what the turning point was re going from definitely getting at least 1 more striker, irrespective of Kane staying or not, to none. Nuno’s tactics of playing just one up front don’t negate the need for cover. Confidence in Scarlett & Son in that position?

Fiorentina and Inter jacking up their prices for Vahovic and Martinez, at a guess - 90 million for both (surely we were never getting both but whatever) going to 90 million each so we’re not getting either.

 

[JayB]

Werner and Odoi.

Just as we have Son and Scarlett

 

[Scouseyid]

They have loads of goalscoring attackers/wingers though. Ziyech, Pulisic, Werner, Havertz, Mount as well as Lukaku. I think that is really strong and healthy.

So do we!

Son, Lucas, Bergwijn & Lo Celso had 22 league goals between them last season.

Ziyech, Pulisic, Werner, Havertz had 16. Add Mount, that's 22.

We have the 'goalscoring' backup for Kane. Let's now twist facts (or opinion) to suit our own agendas...

 

[jimmyh]

I think Herc said expecting at least 3 more in could that mean there might be more than 3 given there seems to be some opportunities as was alluded to by Herc.

 

[lukadownthelane]

So do we!

Son, Lucas, Bergwijn & Lo Celso had 22 league goals between them last season.

Ziyech, Pulisic, Werner, Havertz had 16. Add Mount, that's 22.

We have the 'goalscoring' backup for Kane. Let's now twist facts (or opinion) to suit our own agendas...

Surely that was almost all Son though who would become the striker if Kane was out?

I don’t think there’s any doubt we need another striker in the squad. If that’s someone who can play two positions then great, but we need another CF option.

 

[DiVaio]

They have loads of goalscoring attackers/wingers though. Ziyech, Pulisic, Werner, Havertz, Mount as well as Lukaku. I think that is really strong and healthy.

Lucas who was bad last season were scoring in very similar rate per 90 like the guys from Chelsea.

And if you are including the players that were scoring a lot in previous clubs but not yet at current club so we do have with Bergwijn, Lo Celso and Bryan. Also we shouldn't forget about Dele

 

[What Lies Beneath]

Traoré is not off…?
That is all I am prepared to say
Very tricky
Mendez helps (not his agent)

Traore is still on as per herc club confident it will get done problem currently is the down payment on the deal.

 

[Lo Amo Speroni]

Okay here’s another way to think about it. The main targets we wanted are priced out, so the only other strikers out there would be expensive and not move the needle enough to be worth the outlay.

But, for a similar price you can get a winger who could move the needle. One so impactful you could even rest Son occasionally. Do you do that deal or sit on your hands waiting for a striker that will never come? Seems obvious to me...

This

 

[Living Legend Colm G]

By the end of the 1st line i was ROCK HARD

By the end of the 2nd line i was pre-cumming

Half way through the 3rd line i was softer than soft scoop left out for an hour at midday on a hot summers day

Come again?

 

[Yiddo100]

Come again?

He can’t, he appears to have already done it

 

[Aphex]

So do we!

Son, Lucas, Bergwijn & Lo Celso had 22 league goals between them last season.

Ziyech, Pulisic, Werner, Havertz had 16. Add Mount, that's 22.

We have the 'goalscoring' backup for Kane. Let's now twist facts (or opinion) to suit our own agendas...

You've just basically included Son's goals and named three other players. The issue is the over reliance on Son and Kane, what you've said doesn't alleviate that. Lucas, Berg and GLC's goal scoring is pitiful.

 

[Scouseyid]

You've just basically included Son's goals and named three other players. The issue is the over reliance on Son and Kane, what you've said doesn't alleviate that. Lucas, Berg and GLC's goal scoring is pitiful.

It doesn't matter though! We have the goals in Kanes absence! We always have, Son, Lucas & Dele always proved that. Bergwijn & Lo Celso will also help that now we have them!

Choosing to ignore the contributions from Son over the years is just poor. He's a great goalscorer. He's our predominant Kane back up & has been since 2018.

Comparing our attackers to other clubs' (Chelsea, City, Liverpool etc) is pathetic tbh & will always be undermined by the stats.

Over-reliance? Ha, they all do it! It's literally what goalscorers are paid to do!

 

[Woodham Wanderer]

And when he gets injured for two months at some point? We run Son into the ground again? All the good teams have more than two proven goal scorers, we can't be going down that route and relying on them to score 90% of the 60+ goals that are needed for top four.

No point worrying about it we deal with it every year. We could have 2 mediocre strikers compared to one elite - not sure the mediocre really deliver anyway. Ideally 1 game a week majority of season should keep them relatively fresh - can’t legislate for injuries

 

[RobjDerby]

Is this the attacking midfield/ squad review thread?

?

 

[Bulletspur]

This flipping gripping about strikers is getting so tedious now. You said it once, so let it go and enjoy the ride. Your gripping will have no influence on who we get or dont get

 

[Aphex]

It doesn't matter though! We have the goals in Kanes absence! We always have, Son, Lucas & Dele always proved that. Bergwijn & Lo Celso will also help that now we have them!

Choosing to ignore the contributions from Son over the years is just poor. He's a great goalscorer. He's our predominant Kane back up & has been since 2018.

Comparing our attackers to other clubs' (Chelsea, City, Liverpool etc) is pathetic tbh & will always be undermined by the stats.

Over-reliance? Ha, they all do it! It's literally what goalscorers are paid to do!

We don't have the goals in Kane's absence. Lucas scores one goal in every 10 games in the PL. Son scores but the precise problem is after Son and Kane we have no other reliable goal scorers. The idea that people start naming Son as a back up to Kane, rather than a first team player in his own right is ridiculous. Son is not a back up to Kane, he is a fully fledged first 11 player who plays alongside Kane. If Kane is injured, there should be another player filling in, not moving Son out of position.

The idea of comparing our attackers to other clubs is pathetic, well erm, that is who we are competing against.

 

[mill]

This flipping gripping about strikers is getting so tedious now. You said it once, so let it go and enjoy the ride. Your gripping will have no influence on who we get or dont get

Hold on