The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - 29th January

[Sum Monsterism]

It's pretty moronic if we are still after this guy.

your statement couldn't be more wrong imo, but I'm a friendly guy and didn't wanna neg rep you.

I think it's good that we rate him so highly we're gonna hang on until the time is right and not splunk milions and millions on someone who doesn't quite fit instead.

LD in the summer with a stop gap now is better than no LD.

 

[ajcruz14]

€11m for De Jong. Sorry, Steve. Disagree with you on this. It's painfully obvious our scouting network is pony. More for it's lack of direction than anything else. We're linked with obvious candidates, which we simply can't afford, or last minute buys. LDJ and RVW et al have been known about for 3 yrs or so in the smaller leagues. Obviously the big guns don't worry themselves with those kinds of players often, waiting for them develope further. We should be signing these kinds of players though. Like Modric but at striker. Able to grow into formidable players but also good enough to contribute to the team in the meantime.

Anyways, this isn't the scouting thread and I've said my bit.

Negredo and Hooper are OK signings. Graham as a last-minute fall back. Not the actions of a club with a plan though. I understand having a financial plan and sticking to it but let's try and marry that up with a cohesive direction in terms of the players we need. Enough of this shit or bust approach. There's no need for it either.

Although to be fair to our scouts, LDJ hasn't exactly been tearing up the Bundesliga as of this season, so the jury's still out on De Jong.

 

[Jonno1977]

Hmmm, the journo says nothing is happening, defoes down to one leg, ade is away.......I sense an Andy Booth moment.

Or a Gregorz Rasiak moment, or maybe we could get the lightning quick Helder Postiga!

 

[joelstinton14]

€11m for De Jong. Sorry, Steve. Disagree with you on this. It's painfully obvious our scouting network is pony. More for it's lack of direction than anything else. We're linked with obvious candidates, which we simply can't afford, or last minute buys. LDJ and RVW et al have been known about for 3 yrs or so in the smaller leagues. Obviously the big guns don't worry themselves with those kinds of players often, waiting for them develope further. We should be signing these kinds of players though. Like Modric but at striker. Able to grow into formidable players but also good enough to contribute to the team in the meantime.

Anyways, this isn't the scouting thread and I've said my bit.

Negredo and Hooper are OK signings. Graham as a last-minute fall back. Not the actions of a club with a plan though. I understand having a financial plan and sticking to it but let's try and marry that up with a cohesive direction in terms of the players we need. Enough of this shit or bust approach. There's no need for it either.

Agreed. I think at times we need to take a punt - yeah sure some might not work out but the likes of Ba, Cisse, and Jelavic have passed under our noses. Even Benteke. I look at those players and think why weren't we even linked with them? or shown an interest.

 

[Misfit]

LDJ has been poor for BMG though so can't really say that's a huge miss currently.

I agree with the general consesus of your post though.

Yes, I was rather hoping people would ignore that obvious drawback but yes, you see what I mean. No guarantees with any player and we're currently talking about signing someone who might easily flop in the prem and is a few yrs older for the same money.

 

[Hoddle_Ledge]

Short answer is yes, expect the club to increase the hype over the next few days culminating in the proverbial:

- fax machine broke
- ran out of time
- complex third party ownership
- difficult selling club

Pretty much everything other than the truth which is that we had no intention of paying the required amount.

If the chap on the latest Spurs Show is to be believed one of the Directors at Fulham told him he thought Berbatov was going to sign for Spurs but they ran out of time so Fulham slipped in.

 

[WhiteHart4Ever]

You just gotta love the last few days of transfer window, today we've gone from we're signing two strikers, through to fuck all and now we're at the self loathing satirical stage already. Some half positive ITK from some half trusted ITK and it's straight back to 7th heaven again!

Thinking about it, a friend of mine produces reality shows for web-based tv, an considering we've all got web cams we could have a great concept for a show in August!

 

[mpickard2087]

your statement couldn't be more wrong imo, but I'm a friendly guy and didn't wanna neg rep you.

I think it's good that we rate him so highly we're gonna hang on until the time is right and not splunk milions and millions on someone who doesn't quite fit instead.

LD in the summer with a stop gap now is better than no LD.

All the evidence I have seen is that

a) Club do not want to sell.
b) Player isn't that interested in coming here.

But yeah, if we think he is attainable...

 

[ohwhenthespurs]

€11m for De Jong. Sorry, Steve. Disagree with you on this. It's painfully obvious our scouting network is pony. More for it's lack of direction than anything else. We're linked with obvious candidates, which we simply can't afford, or last minute buys. LDJ and RVW et al have been known about for 3 yrs or so in the smaller leagues. Obviously the big guns don't worry themselves with those kinds of players often, waiting for them develope further. We should be signing these kinds of players though. Like Modric but at striker. Able to grow into formidable players but also good enough to contribute to the team in the meantime.

Anyways, this isn't the scouting thread and I've said my bit.

Negredo and Hooper are OK signings. Graham as a last-minute fall back. Not the actions of a club with a plan though. I understand having a financial plan and sticking to it but let's try and marry that up with a cohesive direction in terms of the players we need. Enough of this shit or bust approach. There's no need for it either.

I'm not sure it's the scouting network that's pony to be honest. I think it's more likely a case of it's not backed by the transfer committee if the findings it produces are not what the committee wants it to.

 

[Misfit]

your statement couldn't be more wrong imo, but I'm a friendly guy and didn't wanna neg rep you.

I think it's good that we rate him so highly we're gonna hang on until the time is right and not splunk milions and millions on someone who doesn't quite fit instead.

LD in the summer with a stop gap now is better than no LD.

Erm, I hate to break this to you...

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

Agreed. I think at times we need to take a punt - yeah sure some might not work out but the likes of Ba, Cisse, and Jelavic have passed under our noses. Even Benteke. I look at those players and think why weren't we even linked with them? or shown an interest.

I'm sorry but Cisse and Jelavic are not good enough for spurs. If you think Pav had a poor touch then these guys make him look like a cross between Berbatov and Zidane compared to them.

 

[Hoddle&Waddle]

Tottenham in the race for Eder​

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By Anthony Casanova

A- A + A ​

Eder is increasingly frequent presence in the pages of foreign newspapers. In Turkey, especially since the turn of the year, there has been no day that the attacker is not placed on the route of Fenerbahçe, Galatasaray (if negotiations with Drogba had failed, Eder was appointed as the alternative) or Besiktas. The latest information, precisely dated January 28, so yesterday, realized the interest of the club where he plays Raul Meireles to spend nine million euros with the scorer. BALL But know that this proposal was not sent to SAD because a intermediaries have warned Fenerbahce that for this value, nor a leg Eder led. All this at a time when Tottenham arises between candidates for hiring the Portuguese international. The association that the media is all Englishmen are less deductive: Villas Boas knows him well from the times of Academic and already referenced for next season.​

 

[Cavehillspur]

If the chap on the latest Spurs Show is to be believed one of the Directors at Fulham told him he thought Berbatov was going to sign for Spurs but they ran out of time so Fulham slipped in.

I remember on the last day of the window he was all set for Fulham but then Fergie was interviewed and he said he thinks he could be on his way to Spurs instead, we defo tried to resign him it seems.

 

[DiscoD1882]

I don't remember the last cheap and unknown striker to become awesome. Too much exposure of the game worldwide for teams to be unaware of players and lots of agents making everyone aware of talent, clubs value their players much better now.

Icardi of Sampdoria had a blindin' weekend, 400k euro from Barcelona to Sampdoria after a loan. Barca just couldn't find a spot for him.

i would say Ba. maybe.

 

[Benspur]

Shouldn't we be putting in a bid for Balotelli? Somewhere inside him is a great footballer, who we got a glimpse of at the Euro's. I know that he comes with baggage, but he's better than Hooper and Graham and potentially would have a sell-on value!
Also if all else fails Darren Bent could always come back. When played he does score goals!

 

[Sum Monsterism]

All the evidence I have seen is that

a) Club do not want to sell.
b) Player isn't that interested in coming here.

But yeah, if we think he is attainable...

I think that he wasn't we'd have switched targets by now... I think player wants to come, but won't force move.

Club will sell, for less as end of contract gets closer. They'll wanna keep him for as long as poss 'cos ee's good!

 

[TheAmerican]

Shouldn't we be putting in a bid for Balotelli? Somewhere inside him is a great footballer, who we got a glimpse of at the Euro's. I know that he comes with baggage, but he's better than Hooper and Graham and potentially would have a sell-on value!
Also if all else fails Darren Bent could always come back. When played he does score goals!

If we were to spend 23m or so, it wouldn't be on Balotelli.

 

[Sandro30]

Yes, I was rather hoping people would ignore that obvious drawback but yes, you see what I mean. No guarantees with any player and we're currently talking about signing someone who might easily flop in the prem and is a few yrs older for the same money.

Spurs transfers is always about taking an educated gamble so to speak. We haven't got the finances nor the trophy cabinet to draw players from the top level in so we need to try and get them before they get to that level.

The above and your post is why I am completely perplexed at why we haven't replaced Broomfield (and if we have, why we haven't announced it)

 

[Hot-Spur]

Holtby has only just heard we have no strikers.

 

[ajspurs]

Shouldn't we be putting in a bid for Balotelli? Somewhere inside him is a great footballer, who we got a glimpse of at the Euro's. I know that he comes with baggage, but he's better than Hooper and Graham and potentially would have a sell-on value!
Also if all else fails Darren Bent could always come back. When played he does score goals!

Really? Guy could potentially destroy any dressing room he enters, no where near worth the money being quoted for him IMO.