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The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - 30 August 2010

AJW

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Guardian saying we are offering Keane to West Ham for Parker. I assume if we are willing to let Keane go then we have another striker lined up.

Article also mentions Lennon is seeing a specialist about some ankle problem :(
 

steve

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I don't think Liverpool have strengthened at all. Only Cole and Miereles would get anywhere near our side. And it's arguable if they're better than what they replaced in Benayoun and Mascherano (personally I don't think they are).

As for Konchesky, Poulsen and the rest there's a lot of quantity there but not much quality. Jovanovic is nowhere near Liverpool standard.

Citeh you just can't moan about because it's freakish and has nothing to do with clubs like ours who don't have a billionaire owner.

Even Arsenal have sold 3 experienced PL defenders and a striker (Eduardo) and signed 2 CB's with no PL experience and Chamakh. Are they stronger? I don't think so.

We've signed 3 internationals and sold no one (yet). My only worry is that HR may have burnt his bridges with Keane and we're struggling to replace him now that Fab has fallen through. Maybe it'll be EG (which I'd quite like). I don't believe we should panic though because the ITK on strikers hasn't (as yet) come to fruition. We've got a stronger squad than last year. FACT. Yes we all want a superstar striker but sometimes you don't get what you want. But without doubt we've strengthened our squad. In fact I'd go so far as to suggest that only Citeh have strengthened theirs more...
 

Stoof

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Harry wanted 3 from city, fact.

Fabiano from Sevilla, Fact

City and sevilla hate us, fact.

We bid on Fabiano, fact.

Front line identified as area to strengthen, fact.

So what does that tell us? That tells us Harry's targets. And that City won't sell to us, nor Sevilla. And that was borne out by us not getting any of their players. What else is there to say on that matter? Is it a fault of the Spurs board for not making those clubs sell those players? No. So what's your point?

Mod said first info re Fab was in may, fact. (wether it was in may or the mod got it wrong i dont know but he said it in this thread in reply to someone)

Bidding for Fab since start of window, fact based assumption, but a fair one on the evidence i would say. - however you try to dress it up, it's an assumption :lol:

Levy backed out of deal because of price, Fact.

far less assumptions than facts i would say.

OK. But it doesn't really tell us much. It tells us that at some point we bidded for Fabiano and as we know, he's signed a new contract. For all you know, Fabiano never wanted to come to Spurs but was after a big contract from Seville. It could be that Levy was playing silly buggers with the bids, or it could be that Seville fucked us about. You don't know, I don't know. The problem I have with your line of thinking, is that it's something that's down to us,when in all reality no-one knows. But wouldn't it be nice to back the board that's got us to 4th, that has the best interests at heart for the fans? No, that would be too much like supporting.

So you spin your limited facts as much as you like. I just think it's wasted negativity for the sake of it. Because you can sign in to your Football Manager game and restart it over and over again until you sign Messi for £50 million + add ons, and you can make "Negotiations Successful" on Pro Evo if you do the same thing there; mostly by offering the world on a platter, with an array of dips.

So I choose to back the effort that's obviously going on. That's all.
 

Zimmy

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Mario Gomez is only 25.

Whenever I've watched him I assumed he was 32-33, I'm not sure if this is a compliment or not.
 

StokeSpur

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Mancini plays the most negative dull football imaginable. City are only winning games due to the individual quality of the personnel. Mancini's record as a manager, once you scrutinise it, is not great Manager of Inter winning a very weak Serie A while never progressing in the Champions League.

Gone before December for me.

i would love you to be right. but, if their winning (for whatever reason) he'l stay, if not he'l go.. pretty football dosnt get you points winning does, how many times do man u win ugly.. all the time they are playing they are gelling and before long their indeviduals will become a team.

My bro in law is a city fan and he's gloating his head off so i so hope you are right.
 

Flynn

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Sep 2, 2004
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Had any of those draws been wins - our future would be so different to what it is now. City would have pipped us to 4th, they still might have done if they had some faith in Hughes.

If we'd of scored the penalty at Everton...
If we'd of beat stoke at home...
If we'd of beat Wolves at home...
If the game against Burnley would of meant something and our players didn't show up for the second half with their sombreos on...

We'd of finished above Arsenal

No point playing what if.
 

BringBack_leGin

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Had any of those draws been wins - our future would be so different to what it is now. City would have pipped us to 4th, they still might have done if they had some faith in Hughes.

So you don't allow for the fact that some of those draws might have been losses? Because, from what I remember, City were a tad lucky just to draw a couple of those anyway.

On the other side of the coin, what if Modric hadn't missed half a season, forcing us at first to change formation and style completely because we'd lost our key creator. What if Lennon hadn't missed half a season, forcing us to figure out how to play without his pace, something that took a while. What if Bale had broken into the side earlier in the season rather than just in the second half of the season?

It is incredibly unfair to our management and to our side to start qualifying their success in acheiving our highest ever points total to finish fourth ahead of a side who we outplayed twice, and again on the opening day of this season despite their huge summer reinforcements.

Oh, and as for the ITK, I haven't read the past 40 odd pages because I've been out with a friend, but let me guess....

"Bitch bitch bitch, Ronaldinho is past it, Ronaldinho only likes the nightlife, Gomez is shit, he's a poor mans Pavlyuchenko, Forlan is too old to spend any amount of money on, unless we get him for two donkeys and a guava, Radamel Falcao would be amazing, he's got everything we need, no he doesn't, he's shit, he is only proven in Portugal, you wouldn't want him if he was called Roddy Faulkner, yes I want Suarez he's amazing, but he's only proven in Holland, though he did score goals at the World Cup, but players who score at the World Cup are shit, we should sign Zamora because he's never gone to the World Cup, and besides, Suarez is a cheating ****, I don't want Muntari, he's useless, I don't want Parker, he's no different to every signing we made 1995 - 2003, but Mourinho likes Muntari, Bayern in for Muntari, Ashley Young is one dimensional, but he's only been out assisted by Fabregas and Lampard in the last 3 years, he's got no footballing brain, Keane out, Keane in, Keane is a legend, Keane only points and shouts and masturbates, he's better than Defoe though, we need better than Palacios, Dawson, Ekotto, Crouch, Huddlestone, Redknapp, Levy, Darren Eales and Chirpy!"

Is that about right?
 

Zimmy

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i would love you to be right. but, if their winning (for whatever reason) he'l stay, if not he'l go..


Three games, one win, one defeat, one draw (and we should of smashed them).

Hughes had three wins from three last season.

Gone before Xmas.
 

impspur

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So you don't allow for the fact that some of those draws might have been losses? Because, from what I remember, City were a tad lucky just to draw a couple of those anyway.

On the other side of the coin, what if Modric hadn't missed half a season, forcing us at first to change formation and style completely because we'd lost our key creator. What if Lennon hadn't missed half a season, forcing us to figure out how to play without his pace, something that took a while. What if Bale had broken into the side earlier in the season rather than just in the second half of the season?

It is incredibly unfair to our management and to our side to start qualifying their success in acheiving our highest ever points total to finish fourth ahead of a side who we outplayed twice, and again on the opening day of this season despite their huge summer reinforcements.

Oh, and as for the ITK, I haven't read the past 40 odd pages because I've been out with a friend, but let me guess....

"Bitch bitch bitch, Ronaldinho is past it, Ronaldinho only likes the nightlife, Gomez is shit, he's a poor mans Pavlyuchenko, Forlan is too old to spend any amount of money on, unless we get him for two donkeys and a guava, Radamel Falcao would be amazing, he's got everything we need, no he doesn't, he's shit, he is only proven in Portugal, you wouldn't want him if he was called Roddy Faulkner, yes I want Suarez he's amazing, but he's only proven in Holland, though he did score goals at the World Cup, but players who score at the World Cup are shit, we should sign Zamora because he's never gone to the World Cup, and besides, Suarez is a cheating ****, I don't want Muntari, he's useless, I don't want Parker, he's no different to every signing we made 1995 - 2003, but Mourinho likes Muntari, Bayern in for Muntari, Ashley Young is one dimensional, but he's only been out assisted by Fabregas and Lampard in the last 3 years, he's got no footballing brain, Keane out, Keane in, Keane is a legend, Keane only points and shouts and masturbates, he's better than Defoe though, we need better than Palacios, Dawson, Ekotto, Crouch, Huddlestone, Redknapp, Levy, Darren Eales and Chirpy!"

Is that about right?

not a great day wiht the friends then?:grin:
 

StokeSpur

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So what does that tell us? That tells us Harry's targets. And that City won't sell to us, nor Sevilla. And that was borne out by us not getting any of their players. What else is there to say on that matter? Is it a fault of the Spurs board for not making those clubs sell those players? No. So what's your point?



OK. But it doesn't really tell us much. It tells us that at some point we bidded for Fabiano and as we know, he's signed a new contract. For all you know, Fabiano never wanted to come to Spurs but was after a big contract from Seville. It could be that Levy was playing silly buggers with the bids, or it could be that Seville fucked us about. You don't know, I don't know. The problem I have with your line of thinking, is that it's something that's down to us,when in all reality no-one knows. But wouldn't it be nice to back the board that's got us to 4th, that has the best interests at heart for the fans? No, that would be too much like supporting.

So you spin your limited facts as much as you like. I just think it's wasted negativity for the sake of it. Because you can sign in to your Football Manager game and restart it over and over again until you sign Messi for £50 million + add ons, and you can make "Negotiations Successful" on Pro Evo if you do the same thing there; mostly by offering the world on a platter, with an array of dips.

So I choose to back the effort that's obviously going on. That's all.

hahaha the old football manager line to prove i dont know anything and you are sooo superior .. thought you were bigger than that stoof lolol (fyi i dont play fm games though)

I asked you in my first line .. what you thought of Harry's targets being from city and sevilla .. i think its nieve tbh and the length of the deal thats gone nowhere could have been avoided, you'd think Levy would have more nouse after Arshavin, thats my point fellah!

i also said i was a fan of Levy and think he has done wonders at THFC but i sometimes wonder if he could do a little better in the possition he is in.
 

BelfastYid

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Sorry if posted. I would like this better than Fab.

tweetmeme_source = 'MirrorFootball';
Harry Redknapp has made a sensational bid to land Manchester City striker Emmanuel Adebayor.
Mirror Sport understands talks have taken place at the highest level with Spurs chairman Daniel Levy prepared to sanction a loan deal and payment of nearly half the 26-year-old’s £170,000-a-week salary.
Adebayor fears that once £26million striker Mario Balotelli is fit the Italy striker will play ahead of him.
The outspoken former Arsenal marksman has already made it clear that he will leave Eastlands if he is not a regular in the first team this season.
City keeper Shay Given is already thought to be close to a move to Fulham today after being placed in a similar position by the elevation of Joe Hart to first-choice keeper.
Adebayor is unhappy at having played in only three of City’s five games so far.
Although he started the club’s Europa League play-off game away to FC Poli, he came on for just eight minutes of City’s opening Premier League game against Spurs.
He was also a substitute for City’s defeat at Sunderland on Sunday, coming on in the final 15 minutes.
Adebayor, who wants to stay in the Premier League, hit a respectable 14 goals in 28 appearances for City last season - even though the campaign was marred by suspension and the terrorist shootings at the Africa Cup of Nations.
It is understood the Togo striker would have no compunction about playing for Spurs - despite spending three years at the club’s rivals Arsenal - as long as he is able to gain regular first-team football.
Spurs boss Redknapp has already shown, with his signing of defender William Gallas, that he has no problem bringing in players across the north London divide.
Redknapp has been linked with moves for Sevilla striker Luis Fabiano, Villareal forward Giuseppi Rossi and AC Milan hitman Klaas Jan Huntelaar.
But he is a massive fan of Adebayor and Spurs have been pushing City hard for a deal.

Read more: http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Transfer-news-Emmanuel-Adebayor-is-a-shock-target-for-Tottenham-who-want-to-sign-the-Manchester-City-forward-on-loan-article568555.html#ixzz0y86VO6ov
 

spursintheblood

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So you don't allow for the fact that some of those draws might have been losses? Because, from what I remember, City were a tad lucky just to draw a couple of those anyway.

On the other side of the coin, what if Modric hadn't missed half a season, forcing us at first to change formation and style completely because we'd lost our key creator. What if Lennon hadn't missed half a season, forcing us to figure out how to play without his pace, something that took a while. What if Bale had broken into the side earlier in the season rather than just in the second half of the season?

It is incredibly unfair to our management and to our side to start qualifying their success in acheiving our highest ever points total to finish fourth ahead of a side who we outplayed twice, and again on the opening day of this season despite their huge summer reinforcements.

Oh, and as for the ITK, I haven't read the past 40 odd pages because I've been out with a friend, but let me guess....

"Bitch bitch bitch, Ronaldinho is past it, Ronaldinho only likes the nightlife, Gomez is shit, he's a poor mans Pavlyuchenko, Forlan is too old to spend any amount of money on, unless we get him for two donkeys and a guava, Radamel Falcao would be amazing, he's got everything we need, no he doesn't, he's shit, he is only proven in Portugal, you wouldn't want him if he was called Roddy Faulkner, yes I want Suarez he's amazing, but he's only proven in Holland, though he did score goals at the World Cup, but players who score at the World Cup are shit, we should sign Zamora because he's never gone to the World Cup, and besides, Suarez is a cheating ****, I don't want Muntari, he's useless, I don't want Parker, he's no different to every signing we made 1995 - 2003, but Mourinho likes Muntari, Bayern in for Muntari, Ashley Young is one dimensional, but he's only been out assisted by Fabregas and Lampard in the last 3 years, he's got no footballing brain, Keane out, Keane in, Keane is a legend, Keane only points and shouts and masturbates, he's better than Defoe though, we need better than Palacios, Dawson, Ekotto, Crouch, Huddlestone, Redknapp, Levy, Darren Eales and Chirpy!"

Is that about right?

More or less... roll on tomorrow.
 

DoublePivot

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Jul 1, 2005
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yes there are - barnesspurs update mentions his name

Yes. Like I said, 30 minutes after Archie asked opinion in a thread labeled "NOT ITK". Didn't stop someone from COYS from using it. Sometimes playing "Where's Waldo" is really easy....like when he's hiding in cloud
 
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