The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - 9th July 2015

[Norvern Munkey]

Fuck cabbage with the bell end of a ragmans trumpet... that is all

 

[Spurger King]

If we sign Vidal and Llorente, I will chop of my cock and you can auction that for the next donation drive

Every little helps I guess.

 

[yojambo]

No because Alderweireld wasn't one of the cabbages so it doesn't need to relate to him. In fact I think the new hint makes it much less likely it's Suarez.

The hint just said that with Toby signing one of the cabbages is less likely, which probably means one of the cabbages was a defender I would assume.

Ah I missed that. Cheers

 

[Ledleys Knee]

So why keep Fazio? Wouldn't it be better to put his salary to work to get us a real upgrade in another position?

Because Wimmer won't be EPL ready for at least a year. I expect he'll go out on loan

 

[Joshua]

I suppose we don't know the club's plans for Wimmer at this point - might be that they don't necessarily see him as going straight into the first team and needs a gradual process of development?

There was some ITK a little while back saying there was high hopes for Wimmer at the club. I think everything points toward him being the natural competition/rotation for Jan.

 

[Mr Pink]

I suppose we don't know the club's plans for Wimmer at this point - might be that they don't necessarily see him as going straight into the first team and needs a gradual process of development?

Precisely.

 

[Joshua]

Because Wimmer won't be EPL ready for at least a year. I expect he'll go out on loan

I'm not sure why you think that. Part of one of the meanest defences in the Bundesliga last year and recently became a full international. Despite his lack of profile he's not some nobody we've plucked from nowhere. He's also built like a brick sh*thouse. He looks more Prem ready than Dier did this time last year and he turned out ok.

 

[Jospur]

I suppose we don't know the club's plans for Wimmer at this point - might be that they don't necessarily see him as going straight into the first team and needs a gradual process of development?

Perhaps the pre-season will make things clearer with the Club going with four and selling the fifth or loaning him out. (Of course I'm assuming that Chiriches and Kaboul are totally out of the picture and will be sold).

 

[paige09]

Not McCarthy and Mirallas?

 

[fecka]

Perhaps the pre-season will make things clearer with the Club going with four and selling the fifth or loaning him out. (Of course I'm assuming that Chiriches and Kaboul are totally out of the picture and will be sold).

JJ has explicitly said that we'll be going with five CB's for this campaign. There would be no reason to loan out Wimmer or Dier and Fazio will apparently be given a second chance.

 

[dovahkiin]

nothing new but hertyid on jasper's 'If Poch had his way Soldado would stay and Ade goes is what I heard. '
This is 100% spot on.

 

[JAYSTAR]

If Toby WAS one of the cabbages, then the other could be Schneiderlin, who are both sort of from the same 'grocer' (Southampton) meaning team / shop window.
Getting Toby may slightly harm our chances of getting Schneidy who JJ dismissed at one point.

Still a possibility tho apparently, if UTD get sidetracked. Would be amazing to get both. We'd have to offer Southampton membership or something at our training facilities by way of thanks.

Oh and they're both cabbages as in brussels sprout (Toby) and french babies found in cabbage patches (Schneiderlin)

Easy!!!

 

[Ledleys Knee]

I'm not sure why you think that. Part of one of the meanest defences in the Bundesliga last year and recently became a full international. Despite his lack of profile he's not some nobody we've plucked from nowhere. He's also built like a brick sh*thouse. He looks more Prem ready than Dier did this time last year and he turned out ok.

And Fazio was one of the top defenders in La Liga. In 9/10 cases it takes foreign players time to adapt to the EPL.

 

[paige09]

Red cabbage in Dutch is rode.

 

[Scott Spur]

Hate cryptics, even got banned from COyS, because I expressed my displeasure over one of POTLs
but even I went on to the cabbage patch dolls site to see if any had the same name as a footballer

You get banned from there if you don't salute Prof everytime he farts.......its kind of a cross between prison and living in North Korea.

I swear I heard him referred to as Our Dear Leader....

(I think I just broke CCC subsection 5, paragraph 2 clause 86 with that comment )

 

[PhezTHFC]

JJ has explicitly said that we'll be going with five CB's for this campaign. There would be no reason to loan out Wimmer or Dier and Fazio will apparently be given a second chance.

Second chance? He has been fine if not better than fine. Really liked him in the end!
Soldado I would like to say. Personally I think if we got a decent fast winger in he may get more goals (dare to dream and all that!). Really does look extremely promising squad wise and first team wise. I can't remember a deadwood clear out like this for a long long time! Really must believe in pochettino which is good to hear and hopefully see.

 

[Mr Pink]

What CB shares the same agent as McCarthy. That's where to start I reckon!

 

[fecka]

Second chance? He has been fine if not better than fine. Really liked him in the end!
Soldado I would like to say. Personally I think if we got a decent fast winger in he may get more goals (dare to dream and all that!). Really does look extremely promising squad wise and first team wise. I can't remember a deadwood clear out like this for a long long time! Really must believe in pochettino which is good to hear and hopefully see.

I fully agree with you but this is not the opinion of most spurs fans regarding Fazio

 

[Joshua]

And Fazio was one of the top defenders in La Liga. In 9/10 cases it takes foreign players time to adapt to the EPL.

Not saying he's gonna slot in right away and be perfect. Just to immediately say he's not ready and needs to be loaned isn't really based on anything. If we'd loaned Dier without giving him a chance to play last year that would've been a disaster.

 

[KILLA_SIN]

I'm not sure why you think that. Part of one of the meanest defences in the Bundesliga last year and recently became a full international. Despite his lack of profile he's not some nobody we've plucked from nowhere. He's also built like a brick sh*thouse. He looks more Prem ready than Dier did this time last year and he turned out ok.

Quick comparison
Height 1.87 m, Weight 81 kg
Toby Alderweireld, Height and weight

Kevin Wimmer 1.87 and 85kg

Height 1.90 m, Weight 87 kg
Younès Kaboul,

Height 1.89 m, Weight 79 kg
Jan Vertonghen,

Height 1.95 m, Weight 90 kg
Federico Fazio, Height and weight

Height 1.88 m, Weight 63 kg
Eric Dier, Height and weight



Height 1.90 m, Weight 88 kg
Nemanja Vidić, Height and weight

Height 1.89 m, Weight 87 kg
Rio Ferdinand, Height and weight

Height 1.87 m, Weight 90 kg
John Terry, Height and weight

Height 1.93 m, Weight 83 kg
Vincent Kompany, Height and weight

Strange Belgian guys are leaner