The Daily ITK Discussion thread January 24th 2012

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[FONT=arial,helvetica][SIZE=-1]The nickname “Sunflower State” calls to mind the wild flowers of the plains of Kansas and the officially recognized state flower.
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[FONT=arial,helvetica][SIZE=-1]Kansas was where Dorothy was trying to return to in the Wizard of Oz[/SIZE][/FONT]
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[FONT=arial,helvetica][SIZE=-1]Does this mean we are signing Harry Kewell?[/SIZE][/FONT]
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[FONT=arial,helvetica][SIZE=-1]Another key character in the Wizard of Oz was the lion so could we be looing at the Lion King LLORENTE?[/SIZE][/FONT]
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[FONT=arial,helvetica][SIZE=-1]Or are we hoping they will bring back the Inter TOTO cup?[/SIZE][/FONT]
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[FONT=arial,helvetica][SIZE=-1]I think one thing we do know for sure is I have drunk way too much Coffee today
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[teddy_sheringham_125]

It's impossible to rate ITK full stop. It's been said over and over again and I don't understand why people don't pay attention to that.

Anyway...my point is that the article is wrong, pure and simple. Admittedly I only know about the Goat and not everything else but on that front it's just wrong.

I agree that it's difficult to rate ITK, but I wouldn't say it's impossible. As has been said many times, lots of stuff goes on behind the scenes and different ITKs post information from different stages of the process; a lot of it does't come to fruition not because the info was wrong, but because things break down/we go in a different direction. However, some ITK like 'Diarra done' can be rated, since it's a very clear statement, and that is the kind of ITK that the article tries to deal with.

I don't understand why people have a problem with the analysis of ITK; it allows everybody to get a good idea of how to treat information from different people and for me this helps people to stay calm when things are getting frustrating.

 

[talkshowhost86]

I agree that it's difficult to rate ITK, but I wouldn't say it's impossible. As has been said many times, lots of stuff goes on behind the scenes and different ITKs post information from different stages of the process; a lot of it does't come to fruition not because the info was wrong, but because things break down/we go in a different direction. However, some ITK like 'Diarra done' can be rated, since it's a very clear statement, and that is the kind of ITK that the article tries to deal with.

I don't understand why people have a problem with the analysis of ITK; it allows everybody to get a good idea of how to treat information from different people and for me this helps people to stay calm when things are getting frustrating.

1. No it doesn't :grin:
2. Even the 'done deal' ITK can be passed on in good faith and be fully believed even by the club. As is always pointed out, alot of us saw pictures of Corluka in a Spurs shirt but then the deal fell through for a month or so. If someone had said 'done deal' at that stage would their ITK have been bollocks?

If an ITK says 'x signed at 3.30 today, he used a blue pen and he smelt of Lynx Africa' and that isn't true then that can probably be rated. If not I think you're applying science to a particularly unscientific thing, and when it's done in the childish way that it is in that article then it really doesn't help anyone.

 

[Bizness]

I deleted it Happy, he's not a real journo. It's bullsheet.

 

[HappySpur]

I was just deleting my response after I noticed your deleted yours :lol:

 

[teddy_sheringham_125]

1. No it doesn't :grin:
2. Even the 'done deal' ITK can be passed on in good faith and be fully believed even by the club. As is always pointed out, alot of us saw pictures of Corluka in a Spurs shirt but then the deal fell through for a month or so. If someone had said 'done deal' at that stage would their ITK have been bollocks?

If an ITK says 'x signed at 3.30 today, he used a blue pen and he smelt of Lynx Africa' and that isn't true then that can probably be rated. If not I think you're applying science to a particularly unscientific thing, and when it's done in the childish way that it is in that article then it really doesn't help anyone.

I think that 'deal done' is a pretty clear statement, and should only really be used when there is a deal that has been fully completed. The Corluka deal obviously wasn't 'done', since he didn't start playing for us until much later. Also, just because the author of the article is not a fan of the goat, mostly I believe because of the volume of cryptics that the goat posted during the last window rather than the validity of the statements, does not mean that all of the analysis is rubbish. If nothing else, it serves as a good overview of what was said and by whom.

Anyway, I think we'll have to agree to disagree about whether ITKs can be assessed. For the record I believe that if we have enough of a sample size (which we do for a lot of ITKs) then a trend should emerge. Some ITKs I read and think that it's absolute bullshit, mostly because all the other stuff they post has never come to fruition, but also because I think I can logically construct an idea of how likely this information is to be true, based on other sources of information. Similarly, I have much more time for other ITKs, because they have got things right in the past and what they write, and the way they write it, makes sense.

 

[3Dnata]

Clematis Rosebud.

 

[Paolo10]

Agh Sunflower. They're yellow aren't they?

 

[mill]

Sadly i cant see you psting mre info as i honestly beleive aside 1 or 2 moving on or going out on loan, that will be that.

I dont think we will bring anyone in this window

This summer after securing CL football and striking before the Euros is when we'll make our moves.

lol

 

[Spurger King]

We're signing Vincent Van Gogh :think:

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

Twitter is not allowed in this thread.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

Fucks sake.

 

[AX-Spur]

ITK is pouring in now, feeds my addiction a little bit...

 

[YiddoInPoland]

this is tenuous but the dutch link could mean we are signing the player from Ajax (i forget his name) or it could be a load of tosh

Or maybe we are bringing tim flowers out of retirement to keep brad our resident OAP company :shrug:

 

[jbstarr14]

I think Sunflower simply relates to Gio -

Joe Jordan - "Okay, off you go to play football in the sun, flower" :grin:

 

[ChristianBaler]

In the goats gaff did anyone suggest what the post was about?

"Rhododendron"

 

[VegasII]

Rhodri Dendron.

We're signing somebody welsh? Joe Allen? Tom Jones?

 

[the yid]

Rhodri Dendron.

We're signing somebody welsh? Joe Allen? Tom Jones?

Or Katherine Jenkins mg:

 

[wpd659]

I think Sunflower simply relates to Gio -

Joe Jordan - "Okay, off you go to play football in the sun, flower" :grin:

:rofl:

 

[YiddoInPoland]

Or Katherine Jenkins mg:

What a signing :razz::hump: