The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - The Hurt Feelings Edition 31st July 2013

[melih69]

Just get the feeling, its either going to turn out bloody exciting even with Bale being sold....

or we'll be sitting here in disbelief come September 2nd.

agreed

it's going to be on hell of an august!

 

[AUSpur]

The impression I got was that Daniel Levy would find it hard not to interfere with the day to day business, not that Baldini was aware of it when he signed.

Maybe Levy wants to let Baldini get settled this window and will give him more responsibility/authority in the future.

 

[Franchise60]

Thanks for the info JJ

Have to say I'm a little surprised Soldado and Contrao are the two big/likely names from the Bale money. Not sure people will be happy with that since many hopes to get those two whole keeping bale.

Maybe there is another top tier player we expect that JJ isn't going to name? Here's to hoping.

Maybe they don't want or need Isco anymore...

 

[Snarfalicious]

Thanks for the info JJ

Have to say I'm a little surprised Soldado and Contrao are the two big/likely names from the Bale money. Not sure people will be happy with that since many hopes to get those two whole keeping bale.

Maybe there is another top tier player we expect that JJ isn't going to name? Here's to hoping.

We've got to have some sort of Bale replacement. Either Di Maria, Lamela or Dzagoev. One of those guys have to be brought in and Levy surely knows this. If he expects there to be no blowback to sell a player like Bale and expect Townsend to step up or Lennon to take his place he's going to be very wrong.

 

[amathews3416]

Cheers for the info tonight JJ. I will send you a picture of my wife's knockers in gratitude so you can rank them.

 

[amathews3416]

Thanks for the info JJ

Have to say I'm a little surprised Soldado and Contrao are the two big/likely names from the Bale money. Not sure people will be happy with that since many hopes to get those two whole keeping bale.

Maybe there is another top tier player we expect that JJ isn't going to name? Here's to hoping.

Maybe they don't want or need Isco anymore...

I think we will see:
Soldado
Coentrao
1 of Di Maria/Lamela/Hulk
Young CB (maybe Vlad still?)

 

[Mouse!]

We've got to have some sort of Bale replacement. Either Di Maria, Lamela or Dzagoev. One of those guys have to be brought in and Levy surely knows this. If he expects there to be no blowback to sell a player like Bale and expect Townsend to step up or Lennon to take his place he's going to be very wrong.

What about Andriy Yarmolenko?

 

[Snarfalicious]

What about Andriy Yarmolenko?

I'm glad you mentioned him as I sort of forgot about him. I mentioned this awhile back about him when talking about alternatives to Hulk:

I think people view him as a better play than he is, personally.

PEA (duh), Alan Dzagoev, Erik Lamela and Andriy Yarmolenko are all way more exciting talents to me than Hulk at this point.

 

[Franchise60]

I think we will see:
Soldado
Coentrao
1 of Di Maria/Lamela/Hulk
Young CB (maybe Vlad still?)

Problem is we could have done all those deals except the bale replacement without selling bale

So what exactly is bale getting us? Seems like it might just end up being an inferior replacement and a lot more money in the bank.

We were gonna go for it genuinely. But with bale going are we just going to pay for our outlay now? Hope not.

 

[Snarfalicious]

Problem is we could have done all those deals except the bale replacement without selling bale

So what exactly is bale getting us? Seems like it might just end up being an inferior replacement and a lot more money in the bank.

If nothing else, it better expedite the stadium process.

 

[Mouse!]

I'm glad you mentioned him as I sort of forgot about him. I mentioned this awhile back about him when talking about alternatives to Hulk:

You'd have to feel that he's more attainable than the others seeing as he's still plying his trade in The Ukraine. I think the time is right for him to move as well, a player of his talent now reaching that age where he either moves to a stronger League and pushes himself or drifts into relative obscurity.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

I'll crack the funnies, you deal with your PM's

Don't badger JJ. If has something for you he'll PM you.

 

[Snarfalicious]

You'd have to feel that he's more attainable than the others seeing as he's still plying his trade in The Ukraine. I think the time is right for him to move as well, a player of his talent now reaching that age where he either moves to a stronger League and pushes himself or drifts into relative obscurity.

He's so fun to watch, too. Probably one of the most legitimately unpredictable (in a good way) players around. People call me crazy for saying it but his dribbling reminds me of Ronaldo. So quick, decisive and he just makes defenders look like shit. His ceiling may only ever be what Bale was in 2011/12, but for me that's good enough when you have a striker like Soldado up top. Such a fun player and I'd love to have him here. And, as you said, with the price it'd likely to take to get him here, it's a great idea and could prove to be an incredibly savvy buy.

 

[HappySpur]

If Bale goes, AVB will want Hulk.....

Why? One is a Left winger who has a good record in a free role
The other is a right sided winger

 

[Bus-Conductor]

No he is a nice guy however all this rhetoric about Franco 'doing this and that' is bollocks mate. Any club will sell to us if we pay the money! Most Players will play for AVB and like what we are doing at spurs. He is just a mouthpiece for Daniel he isnt telling them anything else that is sealing the deals just a face.

I hear what you're saying JJ, but some people are better salesman/deal makers than others. I know fuck all of Baldini, so don't know if he is, but some people are just a bit more jerry mcGuire than others and that can be useful in the right circumstances. Maybe Baldini is just one of those types. You tell me ?

 

[danielneeds]

I think people view him as a better play than he is, personally.

PEA (duh), Alan Dzagoev, Erik Lamela and Andriy Yarmolenko are all way more exciting talents to me than Hulk at this point.

Yarmolenko is quick and tricky, but with him and Dzagoev, I do worry about the Russian/Ukranian mentality, not many have come to Europe and shined...

 

[marvel]

If Bale goes, AVB will want Hulk.....

Hopefully that would appease Paulinho a little too after we appear to be breaking our promise to him

 

[danielneeds]

Why? One is a Left winger who has a good record in a free role
The other is a right sided winger

Hulk is left footed, and if he'd stayed Bale probably would have played coming in off the right in a 433.

 

[JerryGarcia]

Why? One is a Left winger who has a good record in a free role
The other is a right sided winger

Pretty sure Bale would play a free role coming off the right this season, if we move to 433. So Hulk would probably be near the top of his list, not sure what we could get him for though.

 

[danielneeds]

Hopefully that would appease Paulinho a little too after we appear to be breaking our promise to him

There's nothing in this, Levy and the club were given the impression that he was happy to stay for a year, they told that to Paulinho, Bale changed his tune, the club were as surprised as anyone.