The Daniel Levy thread

[LexingtonSpurs]

Who's got s better training ground? I thought ours was considered the top one

Didn't Man City open a new training ground recently? Or upgraded theirs?

 

[Lilbaz]

Who's got s better training ground? I thought ours was considered the top one

City probably up there.

 

[Lilbaz]

That is Levy's intention, he did announce that we need a new stadium to take us to the next level.
I've always said the new stadium is not essential to bring us to the next level, neither is it a guarantee.
Poch said we need to be cleverer than the teams that spend more than us and that's what I agree with. We need to scout properly, I don't know if Mitchell is the answer, that remains to be seen. If we seek to fight the top four with a kind of Chelsea/Man City/United strategy we will lose that war.
Get the right manager in.
Have a good academy system.
Have a good scouting system
Those are the things that can deliver success.

For all those things you list, you need money.
Money to attract talent and money to keep it.

 

[Mullers]

Yes of course, but the point is that in the current footballing environment our only way to compete is to do these sorts of deals and increase our revenues and marketability.

Yet again you are asking us to compete with three of the richest teams in the world (United, Chelsea and City) plus Arsenal who have had a stadium twice our size for most of Levy's tenure, and seem to think that we can just do that as we are. It's completely unrealistic, and we need the new stadium, we need the additional income of something like the NFL deal, we need the improved academy to help us compete.

Levy is putting all of these things in place meaning that we are in a much much better position to try and win trophies than we were when he arrived.

Yes the ultimate aim is to win trophies, but whatever happens on that front in the next few years, once the stadium is done not even Levy's harshest critics will be able to say that he hasn't put us in a much much better position to challenge for those trophies in the long term.

I'm not asking or demanding for us to be a top four, I don't expect us to be. What I do want is to do better than one trophy in 15 years and that is definitely possible. Last season there were 4 non champions league clubs in the semi finals, it was there to be won. No one had really heard of Seville before the won the first europa cup, now they have won 3 or 4. It's not champions league but I think it has certainly increased their brand. We need to be taking all cup competitions seriously in a one off cup game, if we have the passion and the right tactics, I believe we have a great chance of beating any one of the top four and that can be done, without a new stadium or training ground.

 

[Hoops]

Mullers:

A new stadium is definitely a pre requisite to going to the next level. How could you convince a big name player to play in a stadium half the size of your rivals?

Apart from man Utd, Real Madrid, Barcelona. This stadium is on a par with anything if not better.

Any player that looks around the training ground and sees that stadium is gonna want to play for us.

 

[Mullers]

For all those things you list, you need money.
Money to attract talent and money to keep it.

we attracted Modric, Berbatov and others without a lot of money, money will not keep them if we don't win anything.

 

[Lilbaz]

I'm not asking or demanding for us to be a top four, I don't expect us to be. What I do want is to do better than one trophy in 15 years and that is definitely possible. Last season there were 4 non champions league clubs in the semi finals, it was there to be won. No one had really heard of Seville before the won the first europa cup, now they have won 3 or 4. It's not champions league but I think it has certainly increased their brand. We need to be taking all cup competitions seriously in a one off cup game, if we have the passion and the right tactics, I believe we have a great chance of beating any one of the top four and that can be done, without a new stadium or training ground.

The reason we didn't go for it (although we put a strog team out) was because we had a cup final that weekend.
That was the managers decision not levy's.

 

[lukespurs7]

So if all goes ahead by 2018 we'll have one of the top3 stadiums in the UK and one of the best in Europe and one of the best training facilities. If he can stop hiring shit managers and interfering with WHO we buy not how much for or negotiation etc I'd say he's pretty much the perfect chairman, and clearly has brilliant vision and passion for the club.

 

[willy white wonka]

Certainly having seen Spurs all over SSN news today we owe a debt of gratitude to Levy for the work he's done behind the scenes on the stadium and the NFL link. There are also signs that he's learnt from his mistakes of the past in the transfer market (everything crossed), so kudos for that.

 

[InOffMeLeftShin]

Kane, Bentaleb, Mason all got their chance because of the failure of the summer 2013 signings. Kane has said himself that he would be on loan somewhere or at another club if Sherwood didn't give him a chance. Rose got his chance because his only real competition was Naughton. Pritchard is a no brainer, if we had let him go Liverpool were ready to step in and Bale aside we've always had problems on the left. Ali was a cheap signing, not someone from our own academy.

If Fazio leaves and I expect him to we still have 4 CBs no space for any more, I haven't even mentioned us having Walker and Trippier as right backs, which leaves Fredricks and Yedlin in the cold.

But they were ready to step straight in and saved us money that would have needed to have been spent and because the academy has produced Premiership ready players. Are you really complaining about our academy producing players who could be playing in the Premier League? Yes Vejlkovic and Fredericks are behind other players right now, but like most youngsters that come through they'll be ready to step in when needed and if they produce they can battle those more senior players. In the past our academy would have produced no players of quality to step in and we'd have languished in the lower half of the table.

 

[rocklink]

This is the best stadium in the country. Old Trafford is certainly bigger, but not better.

We also have the 2nd best training complex in the country and one of the best in Europe.

Who's got better training ground ?

 

[StartingPrice]

we attracted Modric, Berbatov and others without a lot of money, money will not keep them if we don't win anything.

The last time we won a trophy, the Carling Cup, Berbatov and Keane played - they both demanded a move that summer (and Berbatov literally refused to play for us).

 

[absolute bobbins]

Who's got better training ground ?

Man City

 

[F_AN2CE]

http://www.si.com/nfl/2015/07/08/nfl-tottenham-hotspur-stadium-partnership

You can read this article from different angles as always (glass half empty thing i guess, as well as some dodgy wording), but I mostly take note of the source and take it as a small sign, that there is commitment involved. On both sides. Or so it seems.

Does any of you Yanks know how reliable SI and that NFL dude is? And is it us or the NFL guy talking about venues may be changed during that period? Anyways, 2 games a year is not bad IMO... And HAS to be ready for 2018/19 season.

Edit: sry mods, might belong in stadium thread, but actually read it more as a testament to running club affairs. And now ESPN is up too - nevermind.

 

[newbie]

I wonder how the revenue will compare to other stadiums, I take it there is a lot more boxes and corporate facilities?

Man City

Do they ? Not been to either but I know there's has had more PR not sure if it is actually better.

 

[absolute bobbins]

I wonder how the revenue will compare to other stadiums, I take it there is a lot more boxes and corporate facilities?


Do they ? Not been to either but I know there's has had more PR not sure if it is actually better.

https://www.mcfc.co.uk/the-club/etihad-campus-development

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

I have my issues with Levy but there's a time and a place. Moaning about him right now when the BSoDL are marching triumphantly through the thread, when their numbers have never been so high, in the middle of St Levy Day is pure folly.

Now is the time to doff your cap and say well played shortstuff and give some credit where it is due. This is the non-footballing side. This is what he's good at. It'll be his legacy.

If he ever sorts out his problems/issues/blindspots with the footballing side of things he'd be some chairman.

 

[newbie]

https://www.mcfc.co.uk/the-club/etihad-campus-development

I am not saying your wrong I am just asking how you quantify it's the best, after all if Ade says spurs training ground is the best then you need to come up with a pretty dam good reason after all he has been to Madrid ranked 5 Arsenal ranked 4 in this old crappy article http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...g-ground-facilities-in-world-football/page/11 plus he was at City not sure if they had moved to there new ground at the time I think it was a year later. Ade is my leading expert in training grounds and I take his word as gospel even if he said there is a juju in the Ethihad Campus toilets.

Just for the record the Etihad looks amazing and I don't doubt at 150-200mil it's going to be good, but ember we have a Jewish Guy with a first in biz at Cambridge = you get the best value deal

 

[KingKay]

I have my issues with Levy but there's a time and a place. Moaning about him right now when the BSoDL are marching triumphantly through the thread, when their numbers have never been so high, in the middle of St Levy Day is pure folly.

Now is the time to doff your cap and say well played shortstuff and give some credit where it is due. This is the non-footballing side. This is what he's good at. It'll be his legacy.

If he ever sorts out his problems/issues/blindspots with the footballing side of things he'd be some chairman.

That almost ... sounds ... like ... a compliment!?!!!

 

[dontcallme]

I have my issues with Levy but there's a time and a place. Moaning about him right now when the BSoDL are marching triumphantly through the thread, when their numbers have never been so high, in the middle of St Levy Day is pure folly.

Now is the time to doff your cap and say well played shortstuff and give some credit where it is due. This is the non-footballing side. This is what he's good at. It'll be his legacy.

If he ever sorts out his problems/issues/blindspots with the footballing side of things he'd be some chairman.

Exactly, save your whingeing for the end of the transfer window where we buy Kevin Doyle and announce we have missed out on our midfield target but believe we are going into the season strong.