The England Thread

[Danny1]

Delph, Drinkwater and Townsend cut from England squad. We are so fucked if Dier gets injured or has to play CB, as we have no one else that can play in the DM role effectively, now that Drinkwater is out.

England ‏@England 1m1 minute ago
CONFIRMED: The #ThreeLions squad for #EURO2016. 23 players, #TogetherForEngland.

How the fudging nutsack does Wilshere or Sturridge get in that team? They will both break down in training. Sturridge has only trained for one day since being on International Duty!!

Wilshere has had two distinctly sh*t games against Turkey & a toilet Australia, and still will walk into the first team! F*cking joke! I feel sorry for Townsend, he deserves to be in the team in my opinion!

 

[L-man]

Worries me that Milner is no. 4 whilst Dier is 17. Lallana 8 too.

I see Alli has taken his club number so that doesn't worry me as much

 

[THFCSPURS19]

This may also give you an indicator of who his starting 11 are if we're going by the squad numbers.

Not really- Dier is no.17, Alli is no.20, Wilshere is no.18 - all 3 will probably start.

 

[Marty]

Shocking that Drinkwater and Townsend are the ones to go IMO, I thought Drinkwater would be Dier's "understudy" at DM and with Townsend out the only genuine winger in the squad is a totally out of form Sterling.

Sturridge and Barkley should've been left out.

 

[spursfan77]

Delph, Drinkwater and Townsend cut from England squad. We are so fucked if Dier gets injured or has to play CB, as we have no one else that can play in the DM role effectively, now that Drinkwater is out.

England ‏@England 1m1 minute ago
CONFIRMED: The #ThreeLions squad for #EURO2016. 23 players, #TogetherForEngland.

Should have taken drinkwater because we need to play 2 defensive midfielders with our shite defences.

Should have taken Townsend to give us some width. Pointless taking sturridge as he'll get injured. Easier to drop Townsend than sturridge, less questions from the fans and media

 

[Danny1]

This may also give you an indicator of who his starting 11 are if we're going by the squad numbers.

We might aswell give up completely if those first 11 start! We would get destroyed in midfield. Lallana is powder puff, Milner is boring & old, Sterling is utter utter garbage & Rooney is only ok.

 

[HildoSpur]

This may also give you an indicator of who his starting 11 are if we're going by the squad numbers.

Nah it will have nothing to do with it imo (Alli and Dier are both certain starters for example) - I think it is a mistake to not take Drinkwater and he should have gone instead of Henderson but I know Roy does tend to stick with players he trusts so fair enough I guess. Rashford makes sense since Sturridge is clearly an injury waiting to happen but to drop Townsend to keep Sturridge in the squad seems a bit short sighted as although Andros is pretty limited he does offer something different and allows England to play a different system.

All being said though the squad generally picks itself mostly.

 

[Marty]

This may also give you an indicator of who his starting 11 are if we're going by the squad numbers.

Sven's squads were always like that, but not Woy's. All three of Dier, Alli and Wilshere are likely starters, and I'm still not certain Walker will start over Clyne.

 

[THFCSPURS19]

Shocking that Drinkwater and Townsend are the ones to go IMO, I thought Drinkwater would be Dier's "understudy" at DM and with Townsend out the only genuine winger in the squad is a totally out of form Sterling.

Sturridge and Barkley should've been left out.

Sterling had a good game against Australia to be fair.

 

[LSUY]

Why are both Rashford and Sturridge going? Take one of them. If Kane's fit he starts, if he gets hurt you play Vardy up front. England doesn't need that many strikers. Also, leaving Townsend behind is a terrible idea. Obviously, we don't want an in-form winger in the squad.

 

[Marty]

Sterling had a good game against Australia to be fair.

Doesn't change the fact that going into a tournament with only one genuine winger is a terrible idea.

 

[tommo84]

Nah it will have nothing to do with it imo (Alli and Dier are both certain starters for example) - I think it is a mistake to not take Drinkwater and he should have gone instead of Henderson but I know Roy does tend to stick with players he trusts so fair enough I guess. Rashford makes sense since Sturridge is clearly an injury waiting to happen but to drop Townsend to keep Sturridge in the squad seems a bit short sighted as although Andros is pretty limited he does offer something different and allows England to play a different system.

All being said though the squad generally picks itself mostly.

Alli and Dier are far from certain starters for England. With Rooney likely to drop deeper it's likely that Rooney will effectively have Alli's place in the starting XI. If, as the balance of the squad and the squad numbers suggests, we play with a diamond then its likely to be Wilshere at the base of the midfield with 2 runners outside him (Henderson and one other - most probably Sterling).

No idea why Barkley is still going though. He's not even achieved mediocrity in his performances in 2016.

 

[THFCSPURS19]

Doesn't change the fact that going into a tournament with only one genuine winger is a terrible idea.

Well if Hodgson has settled on a 4-4-2 Diamond, surely taking players to suit the system is the best idea? Requires no wingers, but does require 2 strikers, so it makes sense to take a striker (Sturridge) over a winger (Townsend). That being said, if we end up playing a standard 4-3-3, then taking one winger is definitely a bad idea. However, the squad suggests that may not be the case.

 

[HildoSpur]

Alli and Dier are far from certain starters for England. With Rooney likely to drop deeper it's likely that Rooney will effectively have Alli's place in the starting XI. If, as the balance of the squad and the squad numbers suggests, we play with a diamond then its likely to be Wilshere at the base of the midfield with 2 runners outside him (Henderson and one other).

No idea why Barkley is still going though. He's not even achieved mediocrity in his performances in 2016.

You can argue about Alli as he is potentially up against Rooney but Dier simply has to play - if neither are in the starting line up in the first match then Roy will have gone totally bonkers.

 

[THFCSPURS19]

Alli and Dier are far from certain starters for England. With Rooney likely to drop deeper it's likely that Rooney will effectively have Alli's place in the starting XI. If, as the balance of the squad and the squad numbers suggests, we play with a diamond then its likely to be Wilshere at the base of the midfield with 2 runners outside him (Henderson and one other).

No idea why Barkley is still going though. He's not even achieved mediocrity in his performances in 2016.

Mate, Hodgson basically played his 2nd team against Australia. Alli and Dier both rested. It looks like he'll play a 4-4-2 Diamond, which would mean that Rooney would likely play behind the 2 strikers, and not in the midfield 3.

 

[bubble07]

Walker and Rose being no 2 and 3 is a huge indication

 

[Riandor]

If Roy wants width he will turn to Sterling and Lallana with Milner as back-up.
Not saying I agree, but given that I don't think Roy wants to play with widemen as a general rule I can see why he has done this.

I am not sure Townsend offers enough if you don't play a 442 variant, especially as he is suspect when tracking back to defend.

Sterling also goes because he predominantly plays on the left.

As long as Roy chooses the correct starting 11, then I won't cry too much, but I do think Rashford could have been left at home given the plethora of strikers we have. Ah well.

 

[LSUY]

Leaving out Drinkwater was a poor decision too. That squad is incredibly thin on the defensive side and only a couple of injuries away from Dier at CB and Milner or Henderson in the DM role.

 

[Lenten]

Ross barkley fluffed all of the counter-attacks in the last game. Slow, passive player. I kept thinking, "get it to Kane!" but he wasn't on the pitch

 

[Marty]

Well if Hodgson has settled on a 4-4-2 Diamond, surely taking players to suit the system is the best idea? Requires no wingers, but does require 2 strikers, so it makes sense to take a striker (Sturridge) over a winger (Townsend). That being said, if we end up playing a standard 4-3-3, then taking one winger is definitely a bad idea. However, the squad suggests that may not be the case.

You need options, and you need at least a degree of flexibility, and I'm not totally against Sturridge being in the squad. Barkley's selection is the one I'm really questioning as he hasn't played a single good game in 2016. Andros in for him would've been fine by me.