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The Managerial Merry-go-round

philll

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I saw a clip from a match between whoever Firmino plays for and whoever Henderson plays for and it was pathetic. It looked and sounded like there were about a dozen supporters there.
 

Trent Crimm

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NickHSpurs

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Looks like Rooney getting sacked from Birmingham, serves them right making the mental decision to get him in whilst they were flying in 6th!
 

Marty

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Looks like Rooney getting sacked from Birmingham, serves them right making the mental decision to get him in whilst they were flying in 6th!
Major news outlets reporting it now. That going horribly wrong is probably the least surprising thing about anything football related in 2023.
 

Styopa

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Looks like Rooney getting sacked from Birmingham, serves them right making the mental decision to get him in whilst they were flying in 6th!

Yeah, my mate who’s a Birmingham fan was fuming when they sacked Eustace to appoint Rooney. It was a really poor decision, I guess made mainly on the basis that they wanted a big name coach.
 

RuskyM

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Few managerial changes that were so unnecessary and went so badly.

Maybe when Birmingham appointed Zola.
 

Marty

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Few managerial changes that were so unnecessary and went so badly.

Maybe when Birmingham appointed Zola.
Obviously two completely different ownership groups but for Birmingham fans it must be such a sickener for this to happen to them for the second time.
 

rossdapep

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I saw a YT comment that summed up Rooney.

"He speaks in cliches and not about ideas"

When you hear him speak, its true. Between all the "erms" he doesn't actually say anything.

I don't know how someone can interview him and believe he is the answer.
 

Styopa

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I saw a YT comment that summed up Rooney.

"He speaks in cliches and not about ideas"

When you hear him speak, its true. Between all the "erms" he doesn't actually say anything.

I don't know how someone can interview him and believe he is the answer.

Probably because a lot of people are impressed by cliches. “Football people” like old school coaches, ex pros, pundits etc do it all the time. And I think some people are especially ready to buy into it when it’s “backed up” up with experience of the game. And Rooney has experience of the game at the highest level, and he played under some of the most stellar coaches of all time.

But it’s the classic, just because you were a great player doesn’t mean you’ll automatically be a great coach or manager.
 

Wheeler Dealer

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Most successful managers display a resonanble level of intelligence, Rooney appears to severely lacking in this area. There is no questioning his playing success, but as others have said this does not always transfer to mangerial capabilities.
 

Marty

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Probably because a lot of people are impressed by cliches. “Football people” like old school coaches, ex pros, pundits etc do it all the time. And I think some people are especially ready to buy into it when it’s “backed up” up with experience of the game. And Rooney has experience of the game at the highest level, and he played under some of the most stellar coaches of all time.

But it’s the classic, just because you were a great player doesn’t mean you’ll automatically be a great coach or manager.
I think with Rooney it's also been a bit of a case of the Birmingham owners admitting they aren't football people so to compensate they've gone for the footballiest football person they could get their hands on to try to show fans that they really understand football.

Those situations usually backfire spectacularly because they're trying far too hard to prove they know football.
 

max cady

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Rooney's level of intelligence has nothing to do with him being sacked, he is just a poor manager.
 

rossdapep

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Rooney's level of intelligence has nothing to do with him being sacked, he is just a poor manager.
He was criticising the players very early on when he started saying that they 'need to play with pride' - whatever that means.

But it's clear the whole change of football ideas, whatever they were, was the main issue, not the attitude of the players.

He was clearly well out of his depth on a number of factors.
 

Fergus

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Fergus

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Yeah, my mate who’s a Birmingham fan was fuming when they sacked Eustace to appoint Rooney. It was a really poor decision, I guess made mainly on the basis that they wanted a big name coach.
I'm guessing Zidane wasn't available.
 
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