The Mauricio Pochettino thread

[Hengy1]

 

[muppetman]

Saw that earlier, suspect the Levy out brigade will be in full tilt when the window doesn't bring us loads of expensive new toys!

 

[Bus-Conductor]

The other bloke talked some shit too, saying how Spurs heads dropped and they didn't believe they could get back into it after going behind....completely ignoring how United did a full Jose special, time wasting, breaking up the game with persistent fouling (and Valencia should've seen red massively changing things), and just basically shelling it whilst man marking Eriksen.

We usually wobble a bit after conceding and we didn't cover ourselves in glory quality wise but you can't ignore who we were playing and how they played and then stick it all on a ' lack of belief '.

Agree, I’ve said similar above.

 

[lukespurs7]

Is he losing faith in the project or just media spinning or saying these things to get more backing from Levy this summer?

 

[coy-spurs1882]

Is he losing faith in the project or just media spinning or saying these things to get more backing from Levy this summer?

or he is just stating the fact

 

[allatsea]

Is he losing faith in the project or just media spinning or saying these things to get more backing from Levy this summer?

Why do you want to put a negative interpretation on what he has apparently said ? Why not jus accept it as a statement of fact ?

 

[thfc1973]

Anyone coming up with petty excuses as to why we lost the game against Utd, are probably the same bunch of people who said the same stuff when we were winning against Juventus and ending up losing..
Is pretty amazing how they just can't get why we lose and blame everything but our own players, tactics and managerial decisions.

When you're winning a must win game : shut up shop and play with your heads.
Its really not that hard to work out.

Don't blame the ref for not sending off an opposition player to make it easier for you. Don't blame bad luck.

Just blame the people who were controlling us, not the others controlling other things.

 

[topper]

Just spin

 

[MyNameIsNicolaBerti]

Just spin

I dunno. Poch has gone from saying he'd stay for years to saying he'd be here at the start of next season to being non-committal and dodging direct questions about his future.

I don't want to be a prophet of doom but something about that isn't right. It feels as if he's waiting to see if a big job comes along in the summer. If he's not thinking about leaving to any extent why not just say so as he has previously? Feels like something is up.

 

[slartibartfast]

I dunno. Poch has gone from saying he'd stay for years to saying he'd be here at the start of next season to being non-committal and dodging direct questions about his future.

I don't want to be a prophet of doom but something about that isn't right. It feels as if he's waiting to see if a big job comes along in the summer. If he's not thinking about leaving to any extent why not just say so as he has previously? Feels like something is up.

This is what the media hope and pray will happen and are trying to make a self fulfilling prophecy.
What will be will be.
Its obvious to me that SKY do not want us in the top 4. We're annoying but wont go away. We play catch up with fixtures at the end of every bloody season trying to make us slip up.
As has been said after the semi final loss, the media are gonna be an absolute fkin nightmare from now until the transfer window closes, twisting and manipulating everything thats said or just plain making it up.
Don't worry about things that haven't happened yet

 

[Gilzeanking]

The other bloke talked some shit too, saying how Spurs heads dropped and they didn't believe they could get back into it after going behind....completely ignoring how United did a full Jose special, time wasting, breaking up the game with persistent fouling (and Valencia should've seen red massively changing things), and just basically shelling it whilst man marking Eriksen.

We usually wobble a bit after conceding and we didn't cover ourselves in glory quality wise but you can't ignore who we were playing and how they played and then stick it all on a ' lack of belief '.

I do get very irritated by how blind chance is totally airbrushed out of the equation all the fucking time .

We played Chelski , both sides had chances , fortune decides more of ours go in in an even match...Suddenly every wanker on TV and in here uses the pathetic cliche ' We've made a statement ' . We're the kings apparently .

Then whaddya know , we play Utd its an even game but fortune decides more of theirs go in than ours . Suddenly every wanker is bleating 'We're legends , we can never win anything because we've got a weak mentality' .

Dear Lord give me the strength to carry on amongst such rank wanksterism !

 

[Dov67]

I do get very irritated by how blind chance is totally airbrushed out of the equation all the fucking time .

We played Chelski , both sides had chances , fortune decides more of ours go in in an even match...Suddenly every wanker on TV and in here uses the pathetic phrase ' We've made a statement ' . We're the kings apparently .

Then whaddya know , we play Utd its an even game but fortune decides more of theirs go in than ours . Suddenly every wanker is bleating 'We're legends , we can never win anything because we've got a weak mentality' .

Dear Lord give me the strength to carry on amongst such rank wanksterism !

agree to a very large extent but the better comparison would be the semi last year.

This year I thought we had the life sucked out of us as soon as Sanchez scored. Prior to that we were playing so well i thought we'd murder them. After, it looked like a meek surrender.

the chelsea semi last year was different - i thought we were the better team almost throughout, but were undone by a moses dive just on half time and two 25/30 yarders, one from Matic FFS!. We were unlucky - i happens. Last saturday against Man U was different......a horrible, depressing performance.

 

[thebenjamin]

This article sums up what I've been feeling the last week or so, listening to MP's comments. He's completely changed his tune talking about when we go into the new stadium - earlier in the season he was saying that when we move - then we can be judged and compete for titles with the other big clubs. He was so bullish about that earlier in the season - how everything will be different when we move. In the last couple of weeks he's changed tack and is now saying the opposite -- that nothing will change. It will be the same financial model for years to come. ie sell to buy, low wages.

I obviously had feared this would be the case, given we are basically following Arsenal's model I expected a 10 year period of austerity post-moving into the new stadium, but all the messages coming out of the club were that the stadium move would pay immediate dividends.

Reading between the lines here it seems that MP has had a conversation about budgets for next season -- and this has caused his total about-face from a message of 'judge me on trophies in the new stadium', to 'nothing will change'. Hence the recent comments 'me or another'. Sadly, it seems we are rapidly approaching a situation where Pochettino is not going to be backed and will feel that he's taken us as far as he can.

https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...ck-stadium-costs-escalate-mauricio-pochettino

 

[nicdic]

He's always said the same. He's always said the stadium won't change how we look to building the squad. He's always said we will continue to do it a different way from the rest of the top teams.

 

[Shadydan]

This article sums up what I've been feeling the last week or so, listening to MP's comments. He's completely changed his tune talking about when we go into the new stadium - earlier in the season he was saying that when we move - then we can be judged and compete for titles with the other big clubs. He was so bullish about that earlier in the season - how everything will be different when we move. In the last couple of weeks he's changed tack and is now saying the opposite -- that nothing will change. It will be the same financial model for years to come. ie sell to buy, low wages.

I obviously had feared this would be the case, given we are basically following Arsenal's model I expected a 10 year period of austerity post-moving into the new stadium, but all the messages coming out of the club were that the stadium move would pay immediate dividends.

Reading between the lines here it seems that MP has had a conversation about budgets for next season -- and this has caused his total about-face from a message of 'judge me on trophies in the new stadium', to 'nothing will change'. Sadly, it seems we are rapidly approaching a situation where Pochettino is not going to be backed and will feel that he's taken us as far as he can.

https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...ck-stadium-costs-escalate-mauricio-pochettino

Even though we've had ITK saying that the wage cap will be increased and there will be more funds to spend this summer?

Maybe it's a good idea to wait and see what happens rather then fall into the media trap of idle speculation, whatever happens this summer in terms of contracts and transfers will tell us a lot.

 

[nicdic]

The wage bill will continue to grow. We had the highest percentage growth in the league by a long way last year, and yet still miles behind.

 

[Oh Teddy Teddy]

This article sums up what I've been feeling the last week or so, listening to MP's comments. He's completely changed his tune talking about when we go into the new stadium - earlier in the season he was saying that when we move - then we can be judged and compete for titles with the other big clubs. He was so bullish about that earlier in the season - how everything will be different when we move. In the last couple of weeks he's changed tack and is now saying the opposite -- that nothing will change. It will be the same financial model for years to come. ie sell to buy, low wages.

I obviously had feared this would be the case, given we are basically following Arsenal's model I expected a 10 year period of austerity post-moving into the new stadium, but all the messages coming out of the club were that the stadium move would pay immediate dividends.

Reading between the lines here it seems that MP has had a conversation about budgets for next season -- and this has caused his total about-face from a message of 'judge me on trophies in the new stadium', to 'nothing will change'. Hence the recent comments 'me or another'. Sadly, it seems we are rapidly approaching a situation where Pochettino is not going to be backed and will feel that he's taken us as far as he can.

https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...ck-stadium-costs-escalate-mauricio-pochettino

While I'm sure we won't be spending more than the rest of the T6 (maybe Arsenal aside), the wage cap will be broken. It will have to be because we cant' afford to lose the likes of Kane, Alli etc.

That being said, the article quoted talks about Levy's annual wage of £6m – I may be wrong, but I figured that was a one-off in this set of results and not an annual salary(?) – just a small thing, but partnered with the rumoured departures of Toby, Rose and Dembele (none of which are to do with the stadium), seems like the journo is taking a bit of a leap with the truth for clicks (not that i'm complaining; it's their nature).

 

[danielneeds]

There’s definitely has been a significant change in tone from Poch in the last couple of weeks. Maybe it’s just the disappointment of losing the semi-final, but my spidey-senses are telling me that we’re in for a rough summer.

 

[thebenjamin]

There’s definitely has been a significant change in tone from Poch in the last couple of weeks. Maybe it’s just the disappointment of losing the semi-final, but my spidey-senses are telling me that we’re in for a rough summer.

Yeah I think so too. His message about the impact of the new stadium on the club's short term future has completely changed

 

[SpartanSpur]

I'm not sure I'm agreeing with some in here about Poch getting ominous of late, disappointed in the semi-final, yes, but that's about it. His next presser seemed genuine to me and most journos on site took that as a clarification on his future, and they have more context than just the quotes.

I think he's annoyed with the criticism he gets and it's totally fair, 6 top teams fighting for 3 domestic trophies and some have literally double the wage bill, let alone transfer budget.

It's clear he is trying to put pressure on Levy to be ambitious and decisive in the transfer market, and obviously he's going to be coy on his new contract talks in public, he's got class.

It's very easy after such a crushing blow as that cup semi defeat to assume the sky is going to fall in, we'll drop top 4, everyone including the manager will want to leave, etc... The disappointment leans towards a pessimistic viewpoint. Hopefully tonight can improve things.