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Lighty64

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Liverpool is most definitely not a play thing. It is a business but one that believes in value creation through sporting success not property development.

I know we are trying to avoid replying to each other, but how did you expect us to compete in the old stadium?

also remember the stadium started many moons ago way before we started to really become a possibility on the field
 

Paolo10

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Tammy "the tampon" Abraham has also scored 20 goals, so I wouldn't get too excited by the standard of The Championship

Tammy Abraham who has 55 goals in 125 appearances at 21 (better strikerate than Harry at that age) and who we were apparently interested in quite recently?

Yeah, good point.

Goalscoring is easy for a young player in a physical league (who doesn't even play up front in the case of Bowen).
 

am_yisrael_chai

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I know we are trying to avoid replying to each other, but how did you expect us to compete in the old stadium?

also remember the stadium started many moons ago way before we started to really become a possibility on the field
I’m done trying to explain this to you but for everyone else’s benefit, moving to a new stadium does not have to go hand in hand with a total absence of on field sporting ambition, that was a pro-active choice by our owners who are more focussed on getting a return by selling the club than by developing it on the pitch, as far as they are concerned the stadium is the end game not the beginning of anything. I like reading the ITK on transfers, taken with appropriate salt, but I am ITK when it comes to the stadium and the sale of the club so I’m not speculating I’m telling you know what I know to be true.

Joe Lewis isn’t a football fan, he is a forex speculator and he wants to take his chips off the table at Spurs so JJ bemoaning him not backing Levy is sadly naive, especially as it implies Lewis and Levy aren’t wedded at the hip because they 100% are.
 

thefierycamel

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We need 6 players of high quality, which means that we're fucked. A new pair of fullbacks, a new pair of high grade CMs, and a replacement each for Eriksen and Toby. That doesn't even take into account the fact that we're in desperate need for a good quick winger (like Sane, not Lucas or Son), and a second striker. That's how bad it has got, and it's as a result of poor investment, and then a lack of investment.
 

am_yisrael_chai

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We need 6 players of high quality, which means that we're fucked. A new pair of fullbacks, a new pair of high grade CMs, and a replacement each for Eriksen and Toby. That doesn't even take into account the fact that we're in desperate need for a good quick winger (like Sane, not Lucas or Son), and a second striker. That's how bad it has got, and it's as a result of poor investment, and then a lack of investment.
Agreed but would add that the poor investment largely arose as a result of trying to get things done on the cheap, an expensive mistake in the long run.
 

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Liverpool is most definitely not a play thing. It is a business but one that believes in value creation through sporting success not property development.

Didn't the owners just smash out a huge new stand at Anfield? I'm sure if they had to they'd have redeveloped Anfield like we've had to WHL
 

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We need 6 players of high quality, which means that we're fucked. A new pair of fullbacks, a new pair of high grade CMs, and a replacement each for Eriksen and Toby. That doesn't even take into account the fact that we're in desperate need for a good quick winger (like Sane, not Lucas or Son), and a second striker. That's how bad it has got, and it's as a result of poor investment, and then a lack of investment.

With the new stadium costs we were always going to take one step back to take two forward like Arsenal. The different is Arsenal went from league winners and Champions League finalists to top 4 finishers to Europa League since they invested in that stadium of theirs.

We have gone from mid table to Europa to Top 4 since our stadium build. The longer we stay there the better but at a deficit of what is rumoured to be anything from £600m-£1bn what does anyone expect?

Every season that passes where we stay in the top 4 is a massive achievement. That will stay the same until we genuinely see the rewards of our labours off the pitch
 

am_yisrael_chai

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Didn't the owners just smash out a huge new stand at Anfield? I'm sure if they had to they'd have redeveloped Anfield like we've had to WHL
They made the choice not to redevelop the entire ground as the previous owners had proposed going for the cheaper option of redeveloping the existing stadium to give them a bigger capacity at a far lower capital outlay. No doubt this facilitated their greater investment in players. This isn’t random they took a similar path with their baseball franchise in Boston.

To suggest Liverpool is a play thing is ridiculous, to suggest they have engaged in massive capital spending on property as we have is simply to deny reality.
 

piedpiper

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Yeah I'm sure Josh (15) from Enfield is better at spotting talent than professional scouts who have setup scouting networks all over the world, I think there's a bit more to it than just turning on the Playststion and checking stats.

Im referring to regular respectable posters on here who watch teams in the various leagues not a random kid poster wanting his next shiny new thing. I'm always intrigued at new players who get mentioned of which I've never heard of if truth be told.
 

piedpiper

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With Tielemans one of the rumours coming out of Monaco was work rate, looks like that was wrong, but Poch wants that, and is Tielemans putting in the effort to get a move

Brooks/Maddison I don't know what wages they are on, or whether we actually went in for them, but with both especially if Eriksen was still a possibility of signing a new contract, how do you convince them they will get enough game time. with Brooks he has shone with Bournemouth, but he plays in a wider role.

Maddison had already turned us down to go to Norwich from Coventry and like Brooks knew he wouldn't be 1st name, plus would he of wanted to sign for us after his comments on twitter. there is a chance that both player might of been offered a higher starting wage, or with starting regular the bonuses they got with both clubs meant earning more regular.

NDombele had just moved permanently to Llyon for 8m, had only had 1 year top flight action (remember Janssen) in a much weaker league, and Llyon wanted 50m+. also be honest Berge also plays in a weak league.

on top of that we had a squad of 28 players, failed to sell anyone with Dembele, Wanyama and Janssen were all going to be hard to shift due to either being injured or having a terrible injury history or both

Thanks for the considered response. No need to defend the club. Its my general observations of up and coming players and the keen eye for talent some posters have, thats all...

The players name that escaped me earlier was Lobotka and i could add Diawara too. I guess i only have time for PL games and enjoy the scouting thread for exactly that reason.
 

ToDarrenIsToDo

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They made the choice not to redevelop the entire ground as the previous owners had proposed going for the cheaper option of redeveloping the existing stadium to give them a bigger capacity at a far lower capital outlay. No doubt this facilitated their greater investment in players. This isn’t random they took a similar path with their baseball franchise in Boston.

To suggest Liverpool is a play thing is ridiculous, to suggest they have engaged in massive capital spending on property as we have is simply to deny reality.

I have done neither. I haven't suggested that Liverpool are a play thing, their owner loans focused investment not share investment would suggest so and their stadium redevelopment was done so in a different way to ours, although I do feel our location limited our choice to do so.

Liverpools redevelopment of Anfield is a completely different project and outlay for us. The space we've used and had access to was only ever going to be maximised with a bowl shaped stadium. This isn't something Liverpool had to worry about as the space around Anfield is in far greater supply than it is WHL. This has seen our investment have to be substantially more than Liverpools in CAPEX, thus limiting our spending power on the playing staff side of things.

I agree Liverpool are 100% not a play thing and shouldn't be seen as such. The only new kids on the block I'd regard as play things are PSG, City & Chelsea, although Chelsea seem to be easing up moreso with the Rose of City & PSG.
 
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We need 6 players of high quality, which means that we're fucked. A new pair of fullbacks, a new pair of high grade CMs, and a replacement each for Eriksen and Toby. That doesn't even take into account the fact that we're in desperate need for a good quick winger (like Sane, not Lucas or Son), and a second striker. That's how bad it has got, and it's as a result of poor investment, and then a lack of investment.
Banter.
 

spursfan77

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Agreed but would add that the poor investment largely arose as a result of trying to get things done on the cheap, an expensive mistake in the long run.

Yet we are third in the league and in the quarter finals of the champions league.

Yes the last year has been a disaster transfer wise for whatever reason but let’s not try and paint it as a picture of complete failure.
 

nedley

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A Bola saying we sent scouts to watch Benficas new Ronaldo 'Jota'.

Saw this kid in the Euro under 19s and he was different gravy. Got great close control and silky skills.

Personally don't think we'll take the risk as he'll cost huge money. A shame as he's likely to shine on the biggest of stages.
 
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