The Spurs Youth Thread - 2017/2018

[IGSpur]

Bennetts and Eyoma have not had a good year for me.

I think Bennetts could go in most improved no? Compared to last year or especially his first year in teh academ his threatened and scored some good goals.

Eyoma imo performs to a very good standard in general, we all agree he's not a RB but he has done his job without fuss and never looked troubled. We all want to see him back at CB but I think relatively speaking he's had a good year, especially internationally.

 

[chinaman]

I live too far away (in Canada) and rely on this thread for a glimpse into our future.
To me, what probably is holding Poch back as far as introducing anymore academy players into the first team is the pressure he is under to at least match, if not improve on the previous 2 years. Both he and Levi would want CL when we move into our new stadium.
Guess if the 4 teams ahead of us break away by March, he'll then feel free to experiment.

 

[Lemon]

I live too far away (in Canada) and rely on this thread for a glimpse into our future.
To me, what probably is holding Poch back as far as introducing anymore academy players into the first team is the pressure he is under to at least match, if not improve on the previous 2 years. Both he and Levi would want CL when we move into our new stadium.
Guess if the 4 teams ahead of us break away by March, he'll then feel free to experiment.

No doubt partially true, but Cups (APOEL especially) show there to be an unfathomable plan (to play no youth in that game was just bizarre, when he brings on Dembele for Son at 65minutes, who now has hip inflammation again). What a way to fire up the youth teams (playing 3-4 in a Champions League game at Wembley), instead Sterling gets 5minutes and KWP 20 odd, once the game is effectively over.

Can see why IG gets irate.

 

[IGSpur]

Probably not really for this specific thread but the general youth thread was more made during international tournaments so games can be discussed without clogging this thread. Also this thread gets more attention and it's a topic that needs attention. It's Liverpool's Rhian Brewster talking about being racially abused. Some may or may not have heard about what happened in UYL recently against Spartak Moscow and some may remember how it all got quite nasty in the u17 World Cup final this also explains why. It's a good read and as we all know there is so much more that needs to be done about racism is football. They love the little ad campaigns and posters but it is all meaningless when no one is truly punished. What's even more laughable is how FIFA disbanded it's anti-racism taskforce as their job was complete. Smh

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/dec/28/liverpool-rhian-brewster-racial-abuse-england-uefa

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/sep/25/fifa-anti-racism-task-force-russia-2018-world-cup

 

[IGSpur]

List of players to look out for in 2018

http://inbedwithmaradona.com/journal/2017/12/26/ibwm100-for-2018

 

[IGSpur]

List of players to look out for in 2018, going by their criteria I can see why there are few under England

http://inbedwithmaradona.com/journal/2017/12/26/ibwm100-for-2018

 

[IGSpur]

List of players to look out for in 2018, going by their criteria I can see why there are few under England

http://inbedwithmaradona.com/journal/2017/12/26/ibwm100-for-2018

 

[allpaths]

You have a point about Eyoma but neither player would make a list of players who have played well this year for Spurs.

They both had their moments, as long as they both keep progressing nicely i have high hopes for both of them.

 

[Lemon]

List of players to look out for in 2018, going by their criteria I can see why there are few under England

http://inbedwithmaradona.com/journal/2017/12/26/ibwm100-for-2018

Sessegnon going to be expensive is my thought skimming that.

 

[chinaman]

Sessegnon going to be expensive is my thought skimming that.

Just wondering if Poch really wants him, will Levy oblige even at 50 million pounds?

 

[taidgh]

List of players to look out for in 2018

http://inbedwithmaradona.com/journal/2017/12/26/ibwm100-for-2018

Not the kind of article I was expecting from a site with that name tbh.

 

[newbie]

That could be really good signing and a cheeky one by them. Hope he goes, takes balls. Tbf Oxford in the few times he has played in the PL has played very well, just hasn't had chances. He is also clearly talented and Leipzig have seen it.

I reckon we would accept £16m for Edwards. £16m for a player who has played 5 mins in the League Cup, that's more than Sancho went for and he hadn't featured either.

I don’t think we would, that might sound crazy, his ceiling is huge, what can you buy for 16 million. Unless Poch has no intentions of ever playing him.

 

[IGSpur]

I don’t think we would, that might sound crazy, his ceiling is huge, what can you buy for 16 million. Unless Poch has no intentions of ever playing him.

Ye but if he is as far away from the first team as it seems, and is going to require a lot of physical work plus the fitness levels and apparent mental work required to become a Poch player it looks very unlikely he will reach the standard required by Poch. Conversely you take 16m now that is an extra 10 mil onto a transfer fee for someone Poch really wants now and 6m extra you can use on their wages or other squad players wages.

I agree his ceiling and potential is huge but what could is it if he never gets used, or he never taps into it? Take the money and go surely

 

[THFCSPURS19]

Lilywhite Rose‏@lilywhite_rose 4m4 minutes ago
#thfc development squad midfielder, Samuel Shashoua could head out on loan to the @MLS shortly.

 

[Cravenspurs]

Lilywhite Rose‏@lilywhite_rose 4m4 minutes ago
#thfc development squad midfielder, Samuel Shashoua could head out on loan to the @MLS shortly.

Wow that seems a bit random? Does he have US ties? Is that a preemptive Walkes type thing where we are done with them essentially?

MLS could be a good place to develop for our youth, but why not the Championship where you can see them everyday without taking a plane?

 

[IGSpur]

Wow that seems a bit random? Does he have US ties? Is that a preemptive Walkes type thing where we are done with them essentially?

MLS could be a good place to develop for our youth, but why not the Championship where you can see them everyday without taking a plane?

If this is true Poch can't be done with him yet as Shashoua was one of the first to be offered a pro in that age group. He also apparently iirc has trained with the first team before. If he goes it may be an admission from Poch that maybe his method of only developing them in house isn't the only way of doing things and there are benefits to going on loan.

If I were him, I'd send a load of that age group on loan as there are so many potential first teamers in there. If a couple have great seasons then they could save us money in the long run or earn us money.

I wouldn't send to the championship as the league isn't that important in terms of standard imo. By that I mean as long as he is playing at a good level, the most important aspect is playing under pressure against adults as that is an easier way to get integrated and convince a manager you're ready. Playing in the Championship may be a bit too rough and tumble for someone of his size initially. He can adapt in MLS and then move onto the Championship the following season

 

[chinaman]

If this is true Poch can't be done with him yet as Shashoua was one of the first to be offered a pro in that age group. He also apparently iirc has trained with the first team before. If he goes it may be an admission from Poch that maybe his method of only developing them in house isn't the only way of doing things and there are benefits to going on loan.

If I were him, I'd send a load of that age group on loan as there are so many potential first teamers in there. If a couple have great seasons then they could save us money in the long run or earn us money.

I wouldn't send to the championship as the league isn't that important in terms of standard imo. By that I mean as long as he is playing at a good level, the most important aspect is playing under pressure against adults as that is an easier way to get integrated and convince a manager you're ready. Playing in the Championship may be a bit too rough and tumble for someone of his size initially. He can adapt in MLS and then move onto the Championship the following season

I really don't see what they learn from the MLS. Even my home-town Toronto FC who won this year's MLS Cup won't stand a chance in the Championship. The players over here aren't even fit to play 60 minutes in England.

 

[Roynie]

Reading the previous posts, I am encouraged to think that, maybe, Poch has realised that just working with the 1st team in training is not enough. Perhaps a mix of 1st team training, followed by competitive games on loan and then, if that loan is successful, back into training with the 1st squad to see how they've improved. Everyone is different and what works for one won't necessarily work for someone else. The key here is to be flexible and try to work out the best method of improving the player. At the end of their training most won't get into our 1st team, but if we can make them good enough to sell on to someone then it's a bonus for the club.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

If this is true Poch can't be done with him yet as Shashoua was one of the first to be offered a pro in that age group. He also apparently iirc has trained with the first team before. If he goes it may be an admission from Poch that maybe his method of only developing them in house isn't the only way of doing things and there are benefits to going on loan.

If I were him, I'd send a load of that age group on loan as there are so many potential first teamers in there. If a couple have great seasons then they could save us money in the long run or earn us money.

I wouldn't send to the championship as the league isn't that important in terms of standard imo. By that I mean as long as he is playing at a good level, the most important aspect is playing under pressure against adults as that is an easier way to get integrated and convince a manager you're ready. Playing in the Championship may be a bit too rough and tumble for someone of his size initially. He can adapt in MLS and then move onto the Championship the following season

I just do not understand why we don't have some proper tie-up with a European side somewhere like Holland, Belgium or France (I know someone has posted reference to some kind of link we have with a team, but whoever it was it certainly doesn't seem to be being used at all).

Not only could this further their footballing development, both in playing terms and tactical terms, it would also build their character and learning a language would broaden their opportunities later in their careers too. These other countries have a culture of youth integration, so fans are used to seeing younger players etc.

 

[IGSpur]

I just do not understand why we don't have some proper tie-up with a European side somewhere like Holland, Belgium or France (I know someone has posted reference to some kind of link we have with a team, but whoever it was it certainly doesn't seem to be being used at all).

Not only could this further their footballing development, both in playing terms and tactical terms, it would also build their character and learning a language would broaden their opportunities later in their careers too. These other countries have a culture of youth integration, so fans are used to seeing younger players etc.

Whatever happened to our partnership with Roda JC