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How/where did he play (CM/AM ?) I watched both games but can't remember ?
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How/where did he play (CM/AM ?) I watched both games but can't remember ?
Blake Griffin
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#10. he set up sterling's goal in the 1st leg and scored our goal in the away leg.
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I have seen very little of Roles, what's your take on him BG?
When you look at quality of players we are starting to sign, it's going to become increasingly difficult for our kids I fear.And this will only get worse as revenue increases.IMO I don't think ENIC /levy care how the moneyball roles as long as it does.Im sure in the back of his mind he is thinking yes Sanchez £42m but in 2 years that will be £150m.He is still getting his £100m profit if he wants to cash in.My cynical point is really does Levy promote the academy for his love of young players or a money making exercise.But I'm actually going off my original point.Im sure poch will still try to promote kids,but they really are gonna have to be something special if we are spend £40m on a 21 CB.With foyth looking Every likely,the first casualty of our increased revenue/raised ambition and profile is likely to be Ccv.Sadly he just can't compete the 2 fore mentioned .But maybe this will all filter down to the academy ,in that we will become like city/Chelsea and attract the best of the best.
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my take on Roles, is he's like a poor's man dele, which is meant to be a compliment. He's a CM/AM that makes excellent late runs into the box, scores a shit ton of goals, has an above average eye for a killer pass, is a bit naughty and loves spurs. His all round game needs to improve and he isn't as athletic as Dele but he has such a wonderful skill set and would really add serious goal threat to our depth. Which makes it all the odder that it seems the club doesnt neccasarily rate him.
Hopefully if he goes to Exeter which I think would be an excellent expierence for him as they play good football for league 2, love to bring through youth and chairmen Perryman would treat him well, it doesnt mean the end of the road for Jack at spurs, but it is a definate concern.
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Cheers, what makes you think that he's not highly rated? Because he's being considered for a loan?
spurs9
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I'm pretty sure there has been ITK that he is highly rated. If memory serves, he got a pro contract when most thought would get another scholarship.
Roles is the player that scored a ridiculous amount of goals for the U16, even when playing CB. He also had the joint best goals per min ratio in the U18 league last season despite being a CM.
spurs9
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So was Alli when he started saying for MK Dons, although he was a couple of years younger.
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As somebody who loves our youth and is a staunch beleiver in them, I love the Sanchez transfer and equate him to the Dele transfer in that he's a ridicolous talent that we'd be nuts to pass an opportunity to sign and think Foyth would be an excellent under the radar youth signing that we are more accumstomed too. That brings a skillset that is very different to CCV and anybody else we have in the academy. It's all very exciting and the young centerhalf lads that we have at the club that fancy their chances of making it should relish the opportunity to push themselves against these two outstanding young talents.
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the consideration for a loan, he wasn't a nailed on starter in the academy and he hardly recieved any minutes at the u23 level.
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and since there very similar players i can only see league football as a positive for Jack's development.
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CCV is 19, we are likely going to be playing more 3-man back lines, we play nearly 60 matches a year across all comps. And, the increased competition is good for him and the club.
agrdavidsfan
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I'm getting worried about carter vickers future with us
Seems that foyth is inbound and Sanchez has already arrived
Seems that foyth is inbound and Sanchez has already arrived
allpaths
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dont it will only force him to rise to the challenge, if he cant handled it then it wont be able to handle being a spurs player.
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Yeah, I was sure that I'd read good things from the regulars in here, but I've seen very little of the current U18's and below. The Chelsea games didn't really tell me much.
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Fuck sake lads, half our squad made their debut for us at 21 or under, including six who came through the youth team (if you include Rose, who was signed as a youth). That's before you consider the significant opportunities given to youth team players who have since left like Bentaleb, Mason, Carroll, Livermore. That sort of output from a youth system is more or less unheard of at the top end of modern football. And still people are questioning whether our youngsters will be given the opportunities?
I'm not sure what dream you're chasing...Pochettino has shown time and again that he is willing to give young players a chance if he thinks they are good enough - his anti-loan policy shows that he wants them in his sights, so he can judge how able they are, how ready they are, on a daily basis. Has he not earned the right to be trusted that if he Carter-Vickers isn't being given a go, it's because he's not ready or - say it quietly - simply isn't judged to be good enough? Let alone people assuming that our youth team will be completely squeezed out completely in the next few years
I'm as delighted as anyone when a youngster is given a chance and succeeds, but we're currently in a delicate situation where A) our chances of winning major trophies in the short term are higher than any time in decades, and B) our success or failure over the next couple of years could directly affect our ability to challenge in the medium and long term, with regard to holding onto our best players. We're not a mid-table team treading water who can blood a youngster whenever we feel like it safe i the knowledge that winning or losing is likely to make little difference other than whether we finish 12th or 13th - if a youth team player is going to get a chance, there needs to be a very low risk of failure. I know the romance of a kid like Edwards or Oakley-Boothe coming through and smashing it is attractive, but we have to be realistic, and it has to be done slowly. If and when they are ready, they will get their chances.
I'm not sure what dream you're chasing...Pochettino has shown time and again that he is willing to give young players a chance if he thinks they are good enough - his anti-loan policy shows that he wants them in his sights, so he can judge how able they are, how ready they are, on a daily basis. Has he not earned the right to be trusted that if he Carter-Vickers isn't being given a go, it's because he's not ready or - say it quietly - simply isn't judged to be good enough? Let alone people assuming that our youth team will be completely squeezed out completely in the next few years
I'm as delighted as anyone when a youngster is given a chance and succeeds, but we're currently in a delicate situation where A) our chances of winning major trophies in the short term are higher than any time in decades, and B) our success or failure over the next couple of years could directly affect our ability to challenge in the medium and long term, with regard to holding onto our best players. We're not a mid-table team treading water who can blood a youngster whenever we feel like it safe i the knowledge that winning or losing is likely to make little difference other than whether we finish 12th or 13th - if a youth team player is going to get a chance, there needs to be a very low risk of failure. I know the romance of a kid like Edwards or Oakley-Boothe coming through and smashing it is attractive, but we have to be realistic, and it has to be done slowly. If and when they are ready, they will get their chances.
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My point was that I think it will become harder for our youth players over next few years.But that's the whole point of the move.Suddenly we aren't little spurs.We really can attract the very best.Would Davinson be coming if we weren't playing at Wembley with new stadium round the corner I doubt it.Its only common sense that as the standard of our 1st xi and players we can attract goes up and up Hopefully,it will become tougher for our youth players to break through.
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Spurs U18s at Leicester City: De Bie (c), Lock, Hinds, Bowden, Omolabi, Dinzeyi, Markanday, Reynolds, Griffiths, A Shashoua, Patterson. Subs: Lyons-Foster, P Maghoma, Mukendi, Statham, Oluwayemi (GK)
GOAL! Positive start is rewarded as Reynolds plays in Griffiths who drills in from right angle. 1-0, 9mins
Equaliser against the run of play as Shade squirms away from Patterson and rounds De Bie to score. 1-1, 25mins
Sloppy defending as ball bounces between our centre-halves and Tee rams home. 1-2, 37mins
Penalty and goal to Leicester. Bowden adjudged to have tripped Ughelumba, who steps up to convert the penalty. 1-3, 41mins
H.T. 1 - 3
Goal to Leicester. Tee's deep free-kick finds defender Heaven who powers a header across sub keeper Oluwayemi into net. 1-4, 58mins
GOAL! Patterson breaks down right and finds Griffiths, who finishes with his left foot beyond the keeper. 2-4, 90mins
FT: Leicester 4-2 Spurs - Came back into it late on with good Oluwayemi save and Griffiths goal but earlier mistakes cost us.
GOAL! Positive start is rewarded as Reynolds plays in Griffiths who drills in from right angle. 1-0, 9mins
Equaliser against the run of play as Shade squirms away from Patterson and rounds De Bie to score. 1-1, 25mins
Sloppy defending as ball bounces between our centre-halves and Tee rams home. 1-2, 37mins
Penalty and goal to Leicester. Bowden adjudged to have tripped Ughelumba, who steps up to convert the penalty. 1-3, 41mins
H.T. 1 - 3
Goal to Leicester. Tee's deep free-kick finds defender Heaven who powers a header across sub keeper Oluwayemi into net. 1-4, 58mins
GOAL! Patterson breaks down right and finds Griffiths, who finishes with his left foot beyond the keeper. 2-4, 90mins
FT: Leicester 4-2 Spurs - Came back into it late on with good Oluwayemi save and Griffiths goal but earlier mistakes cost us.
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scat1620
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I'm not sure if I'm just not paying proper attention [very probably the case], but lately our youth sides at all levels just seem to be losing every match they play. I know that youth football is about developing players (and that only a select few will ever be good enough to come into first team squad contention) rather than the results, but even so am I wrong in thinking that it's been pretty bleak on the results side of things for a while now?
