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1-0 Edwards Pen
1-0 Edwards Pen
Have done since just after the 2012 Olympics, QE was done up and used as a training base for some countries.I didn't know Enfield played their home games at Queen Elizabeth stadium now, used to do pe there when I was in school.
2-0 edwards pen again.
he won both of them by the way, as he does.
A few years ago, there were comments from someone in the Spurs academy, possibly McDermott, that they were looking to bring players through to the senior team when they were 21/22, rather that as 18/19 year olds. The problem is that most of today's 18/19 year olds seem to think they should step into first team squad as soon as they sign a professional contract. Very few are ready at that age but the club does need to find away to encourage/show the best young players that there is a route towards the first team so that they don't leave at the earliest opportunity.
Mason was considered by a failure by many as he went from championship to league 1 football before going straight to premier leaguesometimes i wonder if the club is writing off our young players too early. for example, mason was loaned out so many times and finally become a starter at 24.
What @Paolo10 said was right. From my experience and any others who happen to watch the tournaments you cans spot them from 11/12 which is the youngest you really get exposed to them.Out of interest asking the experts. What’s the youngest you think you can seriously judge a kid ? I don’t tend to take to much notice on here of U16 downwards. But I’m sure you guys can spot serious talent at 15?
Watched the first two games of the U19's, unfortunately only caught the last 35 minutes of the France game. It was all pretty turgid stuff throughout. I know there were some of the better players missing, but I haven't always been as impressed with the football the youth teams have played even when winning their competitions as some. I think it owes more to the club academies than it does to the England coaches (certainly Simpson and Boothroyd) and this group just emphasises that I think. The movement of this team was atrocious throughout, the touch, just simple things like caressing a pass instead of whacking it at the recipient, and England sides still sort to humping the ball aimlessly in the vague direction of a forward when they are under pressure - partly because the movements so bad they sometimes feel it's safer to do that than try a pass.
England are still far too obsessed with results and winning tournaments, when they need to focus on introducing an endemic footballing philosophy.
What @Paolo10 said was right. From my experience and any others who happen to watch the tournaments you cans spot them from 11/12 which is the youngest you really get exposed to them.
Kirby, TOB, Skipp and Eyoma stood out a mile when I watched their age group at u13s . Similarly, Forson, BBW, Haysman and Hackett, looked arguably as good at that age so it will be interesting to see how they develop.
Also looking back after watching the videos below I forget just how good they were TOB et al where. I saw enough and rated them enough to say I don't think there'd be a better CM partnership than TOB and Kirby in Europe when they were u16s, and though Kirby was injured and going through other stuff, TOB saw us to a Euro final and then WC final, and Kirby has seemingly jumped straight back into the England set up after a year of being fit. Also when you watch the games the ones you highlight as being talented generally then get called up to England, so I think good players usually standout by a mile. Others that have really caught my eye are Madueke, John and of course Edwards.
As Paolo said, you could if you had the access, probably be able to tell as young as 8, having said that soo much development, growth and social changes go on, that it's not always a straight path, and those you thought looked good at 13 fall into place when they're 18.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVJbt16MSSY
Watched the first two games of the U19's, unfortunately only caught the last 35 minutes of the France game. It was all pretty turgid stuff throughout. I know there were some of the better players missing, but I haven't always been as impressed with the football the youth teams have played even when winning their competitions as some. I think it owes more to the club academies than it does to the England coaches (certainly Simpson and Boothroyd) and this group just emphasises that I think. The movement of this team was atrocious throughout, the touch, just simple things like caressing a pass instead of whacking it at the recipient, and England sides still sort to humping the ball aimlessly in the vague direction of a forward when they are under pressure - partly because the movements so bad they sometimes feel it's safer to do that than try a pass.
England are still far too obsessed with results and winning tournaments, when they need to focus on introducing an endemic footballing philosophy.
I guess there must be a lot of physical unevenness though which must make it much harder to judge.
Not only the youth are doing that. The semi-final against Croatia is a case in point. McGuire and Stones were just belting the ball blindly from defence which put England immediately under pressure again.
Absolutely. I said this before/during the group stages. There's good intentions from Southgate, but England just does not have an endemic "footballing" philosophy to fall back on, like the best or even 2nd tier international teams do. There's hope, because there's some cracking academies teaching good footballing ethos, and educating players tactically, but it may take a while and it needs better coaches and for England youth football to stop seeing "winning" as success, but producing cohesive football as the goal.