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Hercules

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Jul 23, 2014
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For all the will in the world I cannot see it happening. For well known reasons we will not break our wages ceiling. Just cannot see us paying in excess of 30m on one player, and if we did wages would be in excess of 125k pw. Very interesting and challenging times for the management and board.
 

KILLA_SIN

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May 24, 2008
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That is THE problem. You can employ the best scouts in the business, if Levy keeps baulking at negotiating-table it'll all come to naught...

Whether you like it or not, it's got us this far hasn't it? And it's hard to make a case against his methods.
 

lol

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Aug 31, 2008
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You're placing way too much emphasis on past reputations. Kids in the game, backed by aggressive agents/agencies are going on what's happening currently, not 20 odd years ago when these kids were still in nappies.

exactly. plus nowadays we have the internet. everyone knows what is happening everywhere.
 

Partizan

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We have spent big money on player likes him though. Lamela, Son and Eriksen are prime examples. Sisokko is not the norm and we shouldn't pretend he is.

Our success rate with big money signings has been undoubtedly dissapointing more often than not since levy's been at the club (just as a point of reference).
 
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Mr Pink

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As I say, wages are the crux. We love to think everyone views the project here as positively as we do, but we're still a relatively small ripple continentally.

Personally I think we're more than a ripple now, we've been exceptionally good, and doing it in style I might add, for two seasons now.

I take your point, but its the most watched league in the world.

I think it's painfully obvious that we're on the up as a Club whilst Arsenal have stagnated, and renewed the contract of the man who's responsible for that stagnation despite past achievements.

I think young and ambitious players would look seriously at that with their representatives.
 

Ionman34

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Jun 1, 2011
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I disagree with this statement
To be fair Shogun, our "bigger" money signings haven't exactly been great, we're probably at 50/50 if you look at 4 of our biggest, Lamela, Soldado, Son and Sissoko. It's fair to say that Soldado, as much as I loved the guy, failed in his time with us. Sissoko too has been poor. Lamela took a while but came good and Son has improved measurably.

If we look at the next bracket, the 10-20 million players, we've been more hit than miss, going back since the acquisitions of Modric and
Berbatov. It's debatable whether these would be classed as "big money signings" for the time, but they were considerably cheaper than many of the players that the likes of Utd were paying for, and we sold them on for considerably more, so it could be argued that they weren't big money signings, more astute purchases.

On the whole, it's a matter of opinion on whether a 50% success rate on players bought at the top end of our scale is acceptable. Personally I think it's marginal and, ultimately, a failure in comparison.
 

doctor stefan Freud

the tired tread of sad biology
Sep 2, 2013
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Anyone else getting these Danny Bhoy ads? I can't make out if it's a west end play or a well groomed lifestyle guru. Gay cruise ads were so much easier to understand
 

fletch82

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Anyone else getting these Danny Bhoy ads? I can't make out if it's a west end play or a well groomed lifestyle guru. Gay cruise ads were so much easier to understand

Just bmw ones for me but I am a car detailer and search a lot of high end cars and car product's so understandable.
Gay cruise ads you say :whistle:
 

Dazzazzad

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To be fair Shogun, our "bigger" money signings haven't exactly been great, we're probably at 50/50 if you look at 4 of our biggest, Lamela, Soldado, Son and Sissoko. It's fair to say that Soldado, as much as I loved the guy, failed in his time with us. Sissoko too has been poor. Lamela took a while but came good and Son has improved measurably.

If we look at the next bracket, the 10-20 million players, we've been more hit than miss, going back since the acquisitions of Modric and
Berbatov. It's debatable whether these would be classed as "big money signings" for the time, but they were considerably cheaper than many of the players that the likes of Utd were paying for, and we sold them on for considerably more, so it could be argued that they weren't big money signings, more astute purchases.

On the whole, it's a matter of opinion on whether a 50% success rate on players bought at the top end of our scale is acceptable. Personally I think it's marginal and, ultimately, a failure in comparison.

It's not just us. Look at the biggest 25 PL signings and there's probably only 3 or 4 that are home runs. A few "the jury is still out". Some were/are decent albeit poor value for money. And then the rest are either bad or outright disasters. Big money should provide more certainty but I'm not sure it does.
 

doctor stefan Freud

the tired tread of sad biology
Sep 2, 2013
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Just bmw ones for me but I am a car detailer and search a lot of high end cars and car product's so understandable.
Gay cruise ads you say :whistle:
Indeed; alas my love of German philosopher Nietzsche's work The Gay Science and my penchant for stalking Tom Cruise sometimes combine with hilarious results. Me and my parole officer spends hours chortling at the calamitous outcomes
 

spurslenny

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Nov 24, 2006
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Wenger is not the draw he once was. That's the point (I believe) he's trying to make. If he has some sort of affinity to Arsenal, it's a completely different matter. Arsenal don't really develop young French footballers anymore. That's many years in the past.
Two words.

Yaya Sanogo.

Think that settles it :woot:
 

The Long Suffering One

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