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Tim Sherwood on Harry Kane

Spurs_Bear

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Give me one of our own everyday over a foreign import, it's time we started giving our lags the opportunity, Kane, Carroll, Smith, Caulker, Townsend I hope will all feature this coming season and of course Livermore as well who should already be a regular now anyway.

Livermore will struggle this season.

I really don't understand this kind of attitude, give me a foreign import over one of our own if the foreign import makes us a better team.
 

dn013

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I have seen nothing to suggest he is THFC player he just doesn't look good enough.

We surely need to be aiming for higher.

1) Maybe you a blind.

2) That's right, let's not try to coach any youngsters except for young versions of Messi because obviously if they aren't good enough by the time they hit puberty then they are not good enough for Spurs.

Please be realistic, he might not be first team quality now but he did well in the Championship and if you watched the Liverpool game then you would have seen that he has good movement and great first touch. Also I was at the game and can tell you that it was boiling hot in the stadium, there was no way he could have been expected to do much out there after about 40 minutes in. He had one run towards the end where he could have done better, but by that time he had been on the field longer than any other outfielder so his just running was a near miracle. Furthermore, we didn't buy him, he is from the Tottenham academy and so financially he is a great asset.
 

dn013

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I really don't understand this kind of attitude, give me a foreign import over one of our own if the foreign import makes us a better team.

Simple economics. Homegrown players don't require transfer fees and often take lower wages than foreign imports would require. It would be a waste of funds to spend money on improving our back up players when we have cheaper options who can do a decent job.
 

Spurs_Bear

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Simple economics. Homegrown players don't require transfer fees and often take lower wages than foreign imports would require. It would be a waste of funds to spend money on improving our back up players when we have cheaper options who can do a decent job.

That's not what the poster said, he said give me one of our own over a foreign import. For the romantic view rather than economic.

The romantic view takes over, and it's what holds teams/clubs back. It's lovely to have a Ledley King as the captain of the club, but for every one of them there's 20 Jamie O'Hara's.
 

Jay The Yid

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1) Maybe you a blind.

2) That's right, let's not try to coach any youngsters except for young versions of Messi because obviously if they aren't good enough by the time they hit puberty then they are not good enough for Spurs.

Please be realistic, he might not be first team quality now but he did well in the Championship and if you watched the Liverpool game then you would have seen that he has good movement and great first touch. Also I was at the game and can tell you that it was boiling hot in the stadium, there was no way he could have been expected to do much out there after about 40 minutes in. He had one run towards the end where he could have done better, but by that time he had been on the field longer than any other outfielder so his just running was a near miracle. Furthermore, we didn't buy him, he is from the Tottenham academy and so financially he is a great asset.


He isn't good enough in my opinion. Poor first touch, not particularly quick, not good in the air. Don't really care whether he has come through the youth or not or how much he has cost the club he isn't good enough and will never make it at a top club like Spurs.

He will be playing for a Lower pl club/championship club the season after next after he has flopped at spurs.
 

mpickard2087

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If Harry Kane is one of our 3 strikers next season I will despair.

I have seen nothing to suggest he is THFC player he just doesn't look good enough.

We surely need to be aiming for higher.

Nothing against the lad I'm sure he will have a decent enough career but I'm sorry he should not be anywhere near our first team.

Remind me, how many times has the guy played with our first team in a competitive match?

The guy is just 19 and still developing. He has shown huge amounts of promise at youth levels and in the lower leagues on loan. Yet you have already passed judgement based on a few Europa League games with a team that was thrown together each game with little thought. Bravo (y)

We will presumably go with one main striker up top next season, but let me guess you want something like Adebayor, Damiao and <Insert name of wildly optimistic, super-duper striker here> with no thought at all about how these all get enough playing time to keep them happy and also the cost of purchasing them and the wages. Sometimes it is better to have a low-cost youngster in reserve who is happy to bide their time and gain experience and when the chance does come will be super keen to impress.
 

StartingPrice

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1) Maybe you a blind.

2) That's right, let's not try to coach any youngsters except for young versions of Messi because obviously if they aren't good enough by the time they hit puberty then they are not good enough for Spurs.

Please be realistic, he might not be first team quality now but he did well in the Championship and if you watched the Liverpool game then you would have seen that he has good movement and great first touch. Also I was at the game and can tell you that it was boiling hot in the stadium, there was no way he could have been expected to do much out there after about 40 minutes in. He had one run towards the end where he could have done better, but by that time he had been on the field longer than any other outfielder so his just running was a near miracle. Furthermore, we didn't buy him, he is from the Tottenham academy and so financially he is a great asset.

Could I also point out, and this is the second time I have said this, so please pay attention, Liverpool are further along in their pre-season because they start competitive football next week. We also, as someone else said, had a Modric sized hole in midfield, and no AVB to make up for the lack of creativity. And just for good measure, he is often utilised further back, and isn't really a lone striker at all - so anyone just expecting to see that would have been sorely disappointed (or just have their prejudice, that he isn't good enough, confirmed).
 

Jay The Yid

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Oh and apparently he's a bit of a cock as well. Another example of a spurs youngster giving it Charlie big bollocks when in reality they have done fuck all. Seen it all before!
 

Jay The Yid

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Remind me, how many times has the guy played with our first team in a competitive match?

The guy is just 19 and still developing. He has shown huge amounts of promise at youth levels and in the lower leagues on loan. Yet you have already passed judgement based on a few Europa League games with a team that was thrown together each game with little thought. Bravo (y)

We will presumably go with one main striker up top next season, but let me guess you want something like Adebayor, Damiao and <Insert name of wildly optimistic, super-duper striker here> with no thought at all about how these all get enough playing time to keep them happy and also the cost of purchasing them and the wages. Sometimes it is better to have a low-cost youngster in reserve who is happy to bide their time and gain experience and when the chance does come will be super keen to impress.

We are spurs, 4th last season.

Of course I want to see at least an Adebayor leading the line, or preferably better.

We need to be ambitious and it worries the fuck out of me that with 3 weeks to the start of the season we have the WORST strike force in the league. Not for one minute I expect it to remain like that. I hope!

But come on. You would honestly be happy with Kane as one of our strikers? And at the moment one of two?! Are you honestly happy with that?
 

dn013

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Oh and apparently he's a bit of a cock as well. Another example of a spurs youngster giving it Charlie big bollocks when in reality they have done fuck all. Seen it all before!

Wow he really is the devil in disguise.

I would be happy if he played some this season because I trust the coaching staff to recognize talent. I trust them more than I trust you on that count.
 

mpickard2087

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We are spurs, 4th last season.

Of course I want to see at least an Adebayor leading the line, or preferably better.

We need to be ambitious and it worries the fuck out of me that with 3 weeks to the start of the season we have the WORST strike force in the league. Not for one minute I expect it to remain like that. I hope!

But come on. You would honestly be happy with Kane as one of our strikers? And at the moment one of two?! Are you honestly happy with that?

I have no problem with Kane being 3rd choice striker, a young player in reserve who is still learning and will come in for the odd game. Its not as if I am demanding him to be playing every week.
 

nedley

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Oh and apparently he's a bit of a cock as well. Another example of a spurs youngster giving it Charlie big bollocks when in reality they have done fuck all. Seen it all before!

Apparently?

Thanks for letting us know.
 

SlickMongoose

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Oh and apparently he's a bit of a cock as well. Another example of a spurs youngster giving it Charlie big bollocks when in reality they have done fuck all. Seen it all before!

Says who? Fans at Millwall and Orient like his attitude and i've never heard anything to suggest this.
 

Spurger King

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Oh and apparently he's a bit of a cock as well. Another example of a spurs youngster giving it Charlie big bollocks when in reality they have done fuck all. Seen it all before!

Oh what a fucking surprise. The trolling Chavski fan makes up bollocks about a Spurs youngster.

Seriously 'Jay' or whatever your name is, it's time to call it a day. Your number is up.
 

Jay The Yid

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I said apparently!

Just what I heard from a mate. Apparently he drives a 100k sports car and gives it the biggan.

Probably about as reliable as some of the "ITK" that gets discussed on here.
 

lillywhites61

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He is a young lad, there has been a glimpse or two of what he may be able to do, he will need time to build his game, I hope he makes it and it is way to early to judge. We need to be a patient
 

Makkaveli101

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This is optimistic, but wouldn't it be amazing if (after our own Ledley retiring), Kane hits the Premiership running and was banging in goals left, right, and centre... and getting everyone excited.

It's been a long time coming...surely we're due an academy star player again?!

Would lift the whole club and our supporters!
 

Spurger King

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This is optimistic, but wouldn't it be amazing if (after our own Ledley retiring), Kane hits the Premiership running and was banging in goals left, right, and centre... and getting everyone excited.

It's been a long time coming...surely we're due an academy star player again?!

Would lift the whole club and our supporters!

Yep. It's obviously important for people to have realistic expectations, but from what I've seen of him he not only has a good finish but he's also just got that knack of being in the right place. He's scored at every level he's played at, and with all due respect, he's generally not being playing alongside top players. Could do very well with players like Bale, VDV and Sigurdsson creating chances (and hopefully with Adebayor holding up the ball for him).
 

StartingPrice

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This is optimistic, but wouldn't it be amazing if (after our own Ledley retiring), Kane hits the Premiership running and was banging in goals left, right, and centre... and getting everyone excited.

It's been a long time coming...surely we're due an academy star player again?!

Would lift the whole club and our supporters!

Going by the amount of time, effort and money put into our youth set-up, and seen as it is clearly a cornerstone of Levy's strategic vision, I think we should be looking for a steady influx of 1st team/squad players in the future. We are still only starting to get the benefits of it, but, in time, I would be expecting a 1st teamer every couple of years and a couple of squad players every three. Anything more would be surpassing my expectations. And, just as importantly, I would expect our excess product (hate talking about human beings like manufactured goods in a marketing brochure, but there you go) to sell to a higher level of club than hitherto, and for more financial renumeration.
 

Reado

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I say give him a chance. As has already been mentioned here, he was never gonna bang in the goals with the poor service he received in the Europa League, but with a Bale, a VDV or a Lennon, then who knows. We all know the lad can finish, so give him that bit of quality from the wings and who knows.
 
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