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Tim Sherwood on Harry Kane

si_yidarmy

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I think all opinions should be left until after he has more decent appearances, especially in the PL. A young lad who deserves a chance. He certainly needs us to roar him on when he comes onto the pitch! Good luck Kane!
 

Bobbins

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Oh and apparently he's a bit of a cock as well. Another example of a spurs youngster giving it Charlie big bollocks when in reality they have done fuck all. Seen it all before!

I don't know why you bother posting this sort of stuff anymore - hardly anyone bites on the wumming and trolling these days, so I imagine whatever Chelsea forum you're posting on isn't getting any more amusing "This is the reaction I got on SC when I started winding them up about >insert subject<, LOL!".
 

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I don't know why you bother posting this sort of stuff anymore - hardly anyone bites on the wumming and trolling these days, so I imagine whatever Chelsea forum you're posting on isn't getting any more amusing "This is the reaction I got on SC when I started winding them up about >insert subject<, LOL!".

I suppose they got a bit bored after the 519th report that our reaction to absolutely any so-called wind-up he attempted was John Terry is a :censored:
 

EastLondonYid

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His young and might improve, but as we speak and from what i have seen of him, he looks like a player who might have had a chance of playing for us in the mid 90's when we were very average, i thought the sacking of Harry and the new stadium was for us to challenge the top top boys, i don't personally see much about Kane to excite me or for him to be that player who would be a top top forward, but i am still willing to give him a fair chance, but don't expect him to be at spurs for the long haul.
 

JimmyG2

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His young and might improve, but as we speak and from what i have seen of him, he looks like a player who might have had a chance of playing for us in the mid 90's when we were very average, i thought the sacking of Harry and the new stadium was for us to challenge the top top boys, i don't personally see much about Kane to excite me or for him to be that player who would be a top top forward, but i am still willing to give him a fair chance, but don't expect him to be at spurs for the long haul.
He's nineteen and is being generally proposed as 4th striker.
No great claims have been made for the boy
other than that he has shown enough ability on loan at Millwall
and coming on pre-season to be given a chance.
What's the problem?
How can you say you are willing to give him a fair chance
and in the same breath write him off?
 

AngerManagement

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To be honest I don't really care

If he is good enough or becomes good enough great, we'll have a player worth having on our hands.... if not then he will be moved on and we will buy better, I don't care, I just want the best for the team.

If we can produce our own top talent all the better, if not we will just buy some. All I want is for us to have the best striker options we can have, if Harry gets a spot I want it to be on merit not on sentiment, raise the bar and makes the youngsters rise to it it don't lower the bar for them just for the sake of having "your own" (because Sol Campbell proved that doesn't always count for much)
 

AngerManagement

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His young and might improve, but as we speak and from what i have seen of him, he looks like a player who might have had a chance of playing for us in the mid 90's when we were very average, i thought the sacking of Harry and the new stadium was for us to challenge the top top boys, i don't personally see much about Kane to excite me or for him to be that player who would be a top top forward, but i am still willing to give him a fair chance, but don't expect him to be at spurs for the long haul.
I agree with every word
 

scat1620

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Very much hope he makes it with us as nothing would make me happier than seeing Spurs producing a homegrown striker good enough to be a regular in our first team. But is Kane currently a better prospect than Lee Barnard was at the same age? Genuine question, btw, not a veiled dig at HK.

I remember Barnard scoring a boatload for the youth and reserves, but as much as I wanted him to make it at Spurs it was clear he was never going to be a Premier League regular. I really hope Kane ends up as a far better player than Barnard was, but I'm not sure I've seen signs that suggest he will be significantly better than Barnard. Can anyone convince me otherwise?
 

eddiebailey

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Yes, Kane is. Barney at 19 had played no higher than League Two, Kane was Millwall's young player of the year in the Championship. Also Barney was only just finding his scoring boots at that age, not having been a prolific scorer at youth level = before Clive got hold him Lee had tended to play quite deep. Lee was also a terrible hot head at that age (he still is a bit, witness his recent court case.)

So Kane is far more advance than Barney at the same age. And Barney was not rubbish, but for injuries he would most likely have had a far more successful career.
 

fazza

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Alot also depends on the manager, Is AVB the type of coach who will give more opportunities to the younger players, At a glance so far I'm encouraged by his selections but it is only pre season, I hope AVB can mold these youngsters into a team that will challenge.
 

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Alot also depends on the manager, Is AVB the type of coach who will give more opportunities to the younger players, At a glance so far I'm encouraged by his selections but it is only pre season, I hope AVB can mold these youngsters into a team that will challenge.

I think that is what he is here for.
 

EastLondonYid

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He's nineteen and is being generally proposed as 4th striker.
No great claims have been made for the boy
other than that he has shown enough ability on loan at Millwall
and coming on pre-season to be given a chance.
What's the problem?
How can you say you are willing to give him a fair chance
and in the same breath write him off?

Oh fucking chill....i gave an honest opinion about a spurs player on a spurs site...get over it and stop making something out of nothing.
 

Ionman34

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Sherwood has a very bad opinion here, Kane could learn how to play a full season in professional football! Getting ready for a game every few days, learning how to manage himself, what preparation works and doesn't. That would help his development, rather than rotting until xmas, only getting a Europa League game now and then.

You want players playing regurlarly so they get into that mode early into their career, where they are a first team footballer, rather than making the bench for a PL team and occasionally getting on the pitch. Stops their development.
Like it did with Beckham, Giggs, Scholes and the Neville's?
Or even King, Bale and Hoddle?

Didn't do too much harm to the likes of Fabregas, Clichy, Oxlaide-Chaimberlaine et al either.

I won't even get into the La Marca products either.
 

Ionman34

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I believe that it's important for young players to play different positions. It should help with their understanding of the game, seeing play develop from a different perspective.
I agree, and this will be very much in keeping with AVB's philosophy I believe. Many people wax lyrical about La Marca but that is just an extension of the Dutch, or to be more precise Ajax, philosophy of total Football, where players in all positions should be comfortable on the ball and familiar with other roles. BMJ began implementing this in Lennon's development when he played him out on the left for a season. Many were upset about this, but the benefits can ba seen now when he is able to switch seamlessly with Bale.
With Kane, I think this will help to develop his intelligence and positional sense on the pitch. For a player lacking in pace this can give him a huge advantage. Pace is more often than not reactive, intelligence is proactive.
From what I've seen of the boy, he may not be win too many foot races, but that shouldn't be what he is looking to do. He should be looking to gain space for service. Gaining a yard or two through intelligent movement will net him far more opportunities and afford him a longer career.

It didn't harm Teddy after all
 

Ionman34

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Oh and apparently he's a bit of a cock as well. Another example of a spurs youngster giving it Charlie big bollocks when in reality they have done fuck all. Seen it all before!
You have passed judgement on him based on an 'apparently?'

You've written him off based on, what, 3 Europa League games?

And you don't see this as jumping the gun when professionals, who work with him every day, rate him highly enough to feel he's earned an opportunity to step up to the next level?

I'm genuinely interested here because, quite frankly, I'm baffled.
 

michaelden

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What happened to our new drogba?

Couliaby was touted as a new Drogba but people say he's more of a stocky Eto'o. In truth I'd rather an Eto'o than a Drogba. He's playing in the youth tourney in Portugal I think at the moment
 
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