Tim Sherwood sacked as Tottenham manager

ginola007

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...We all knew it was going to happen... and all wanted him to succeed... but also wanted a TOP TOP manager to take over... cant have it both ways
Trouble is: with our history of constant sacking, what TOP, TOP manager will want to come? We have been linked to many over the years, but few answered our call.
 

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Some perspective is in order. Whatever comments his lack of media training led to they all pointed to the fact that the guy loves the club and wanted to succeed - both personally and for the club.

And who can blame him? At least he had a go rather than delivering the drivel AVB served up week after week following his appointment. Last season looked far better than it was due to one man - and we sold him to Real Madrid basically because he wanted to go and we could command a record breaking fee for him.

I say fair play to Sherwood. He was an interim appointment by an inept footballing board that limited the club's progression 3-years ago by not capitalizing on our champions league season in the transfer window with world class strikers and sacking our third best manager in our history and replacing him with a man who everyone knew couldn't hack it in the Premier League and had limited tactical and terrible player management skills.

If they'd done their job better we might have made the champions league again and maybe even challenged for the title. Maybe we'd even still have the likes of Bale at the club. Unlikely but maybe.

When Abramovich bought Chelsea they started winning things. When the Arabs bought City they started winning things. Many Spurs fans were heard to say, "well if we had £100mil to spend every transfer window we'd win stuff too."

Well our esteemed board proved us all wrong didn't they.

I say thanks Tim, for getting us playing slightly better football than under AVB, for bringing through some younger talent from the squad, for putting up with some shameless behavior by some fans, some of the primadona players who should also take their share of the blame and the board -- and for keeping us in Europe.

Because being in the Europa next season could well lead to the champions League the next season if we can get ourselves a strong, experienced and tactically competent manager to replace the one we sacked 3-years ago, a new defence and a forward line of players who can each ship us 15-goals a season.

He wasn't the best manager we've ever had but he had no previous experience and still did a damn sight better than AVB and deserves a bit of credit.
Spot on, mate. Could not have said it better!
 

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I want my club back me levy and co. How many managers have gone now ? No top manager will want too come. Maybe fat rafa ? But in the future that won't last long aswell
 

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But its also wise to see the potential problems down the line and rectify it ASAP which is what has been done here.
Totally agree in principle - but if practically there simply are no alternative approaches then what rectification can actually be done?

There are people on other threads saying Ancellotti or Van Gaal may be available and would want to come to us. I mean FFS.

My main point was - unless we actually have a proven experienced upgrade to Tim, why would we want to sack him? I hope Dan Levy has his cards lined up to make the appointment we need. I think Pochettino and FDB are as much of a gamble as Tim was. They may look good on paper (remember AVB's?) but only time will tell whether they are up to it.

Also, I think expectation levels in general are simply way way too high. Until we get a massive new stadium, we are simply a number 5/6 team. If we get 4th we are punching above our weight. 5th is about where we should be (although with Liverpool stepping up, that may be challenging) and 6th is below par
 

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Totally agree in principle - but if practically there simply are no alternative approaches then what rectification can actually be done?


I hope Dan Levy has his cards lined up to make the appointment we need. I think Pochettino and FDB are as much of a gamble as Tim was.
After Harry was sacked, the pundits all agreed that DL had someone already lined up. But nothing happened for several weeks and then we got AVB, who didn't distinguish himself with Chelsea, and though we fans all wanted him to succeed, his style of football was too sterile and boring for us. I just hope history does not repeat itself.
 

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I think you are overstating the problem. Basically we've had Harry, AVB, and a caretaker since 2008.

Harry had taken us as far as he was going to, and basically overplayed his hand. AVB led us to our best point total ever, but had a falling out with the club. The caretaker, finished out the season for us, and now we move on.

Given where we were at each hiring, I don't think any of them were bad hires for the situation. Nor do I think Pochettino or de Boer will be bad hire now, even though they, like all managers, will be sacked at some point in the future.
It is misleading to say he had topped out. The board did not capitalise on our entry into the ECL and strengthen the forward line.

The distraction of the England job should not have been enough to sack him. Especially when he brought the best football seen at the Lane for 30 years.
 

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I think time has blurred the reality of quite how bad it was under Jol towards the end and Redknapp signed his own death warrant whoring himself out for the England job. Sherwood was another Redknapp, a glorified self publicist who constantly contradicted himself and basically made himself look an idiot most of the time.
Sorry but that is just revisionist .

Jol was being undermined by the board .

Redknapp had said he wanted the England job years before he joined Spurs .

It's amazing how some fans always find a way to justify Levy's actions .
 

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I'm glad this has been done quickly and I wish the best of luck to Sherwood in the future. Maybe he'll be back some day, though probably at a time when Levy isn't at Spurs.

It looks like we're backing Baldini and he'll get this one shot to get the right man. If it goes pear shaped again, he'll be out with the new manager. There seems to be an emphasis on head-coach rather than manager.

If it is Pochettino, I hope he never speaks English in public as Spurs boss. That way the fans wont be able to get their nickers in a twist about interviews, which is a very sackable offence at Spurs it appears.
 

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Trouble is: with our history of constant sacking, what TOP, TOP manager will want to come? We have been linked to many over the years, but few answered our call.
That's not because of constant sackings, they happen at bigger clubs too and 'TOP' managers still go to them (Chelsea, Madrid). There are always bigger jobs than this one so the 'TOP' managers will wait for those.
 

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I feel sorry for Tim but then again I feel sorry for everyone who manages my club. I'm probably just a softie as they get paid well enough, but I'll always sympathise with someone who tries hard when failure occurs. He tried and he did some things well (Kane, Ade, Bentalab) but was never going to be accepted by Levy or the fans.

Now get someone decent in and stick with him FFS!!!!!!! :mad:
 

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The distraction of the England job should not have been enough to sack him. Especially when he brought the best football seen at the Lane for 30 years.
Some would agree, some wont. Personally he showed that if something bigger came along his commitment to Spurs was likely to be compromised (unlike AVB), could have happened again 6 months down the line. I think the board that doesn't consider that as dim wits.
 

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No need to feel sorry for Tim. He got his first step into management and am sure saw this as just a springboard to a permanent post at a higher level than he could otherwise expect. From day one he alienated people whether players, the board or fans. I almost thought he was daring the board to sack him with his constant comments.

Let's hope we chance upon a good manager this time
 
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