Time for Harry to go ?

[jj87]

As frustrating as the last month or so has been....

Absolutely fucking not. You're a moron.

 

[Matt C]

Mourinho was inexperienced when he took over at Porto, Guardiola was inexperienced when he took over at Barcelona, there is no reason why a highly talented young manager could not do a very good job for us like Villas Boas or Coyle.

Hiring Villas Boas is achieveable, he will know us from his time at Chelsea and Jose would hype us up to him as he likes us

Coyle has had 2 teams punching well above their weight and playing the type of football we all love, I think at worst we would be 5th under him.[/quote]


no progression then?

It is a risk but then any managerial appointment is a risk, we could hire Wenger or Ferguson and it could go pear shaped but since we are realistically not going to get Mourinho we should look for a manager who will be the next Mourinho and those 2 tick the most boxes and are IMHO realistic.

 

[Spurger King]

That's the most fucking ridiculous statement i've seen for a while... Well done.

:lol: The only person on the whole of Spurs Community I have on ignore, and thanks to you quoting his post he still manages to annoy me.

 

[14/04/91]

Mourinho was inexperienced when he took over at Porto, Guardiola was inexperienced when he took over at Barcelona, there is no reason why a highly talented young manager could not do a very good job for us like Villas Boas or Coyle.

Hiring Villas Boas is achieveable, he will know us from his time at Chelsea and Jose would hype us up to him as he likes us

Coyle has had 2 teams punching well above their weight and playing the type of football we all love, I think at worst we would be 5th under him.

And how much time would you give them to settle in? If they took time to adapt at working at a bigger club? In Villa Boas' case in a new country?
Say we're 15th at Xmas, would you still think this was such a good idea?

We've not been outside the top 5 for 2 years now yet people still want more. Our average Premier League position is something like 12th which shows how we're progressing.

I hope I'm not starting a thread in 2 years time asking if certain people are glad they wanted a change.

 

[tttcowan]

as frustrating as the last month or so has been....

Absolutely fucking not. You're a moron.

this.

 

[14/04/91]

I wouldn't say he should go but I'm starting to wonder whether Milan away was luck rather than design. Not since that game have we witnessed anything like the solid, tactical unity that we employed against Milan. Even in the home leg they wiped the floor with us and since that game our confidence seems to have dropped dramatically.

I'm left wondering whether or not the players witnessed their own fallibility in that game because Milan passed us off the pitch like no other sie has done to us in recent times.

Did they really?? They had a lot of possession but created hardly any clear cut chances. The one scary moment was our own fault when Gomes came charging out.
And the reason is we were solid tactically, just as we were in the 1st leg.
Yes they passed the ball a lot, but we weren't passed off the pitch. And in fairness they're Serie A #1 so should be able to keep the ball.

 

[Matt C]

And how much time would you give them to settle in? If they took time to adapt at working at a bigger club? In Villa Boas' case in a new country?
Say we're 15th at Xmas, would you still think this was such a good idea?

We've not been outside the top 5 for 2 years now yet people still want more. Our average Premier League position is something like 12th which shows how we're progressing.

I hope I'm not starting a thread in 2 years time asking if certain people are glad they wanted a change.

Villas Boas was assistant manager at Chelsea and has English heritage too so I don't believe he would take any time to settle as he has experience of the premiership as an assistant manager.

 

[jonathanhotspur]

Regardless of results Harry is going end of next season anyway when Capello leaves, maybe even sooner if he is sent down so the very maximum we have him for is another year so your question will not be any different in a years time and we would have no choice but to choose someone as a new manager.

Exactly.

 

[Azrael]

are you think???

Charming individual.

he has said nuthin of the sort....leave the lad alone its his opinion...we need somebody who will take us forward not stagnate....

He has said exactly that. Read his list of managerial choices. None will be avialable in the summer aside from Coyle, who is more inexperienced than Redknapp.

the fact is we are a good side INSPITE of redknapp not BEACAUSE of him...

Rubbish. That's pretending that during the course of two and a half years Redknapp has done nothing but sit in portacabin selling hooky wallets while the team train outside. Surely, he has made mistakes, but pretending he has done nothing? That's crazy talk....and you jave the nerve to call me thick!

we have been going backwards for a few months now

No we haven't. We have only been going backwards for the last four league games. Some of Harry's mistakes have contributed to those results I'll give you that. But to wipe away more than two years of management because of a run of four bad results is lunatic stuff.....especially when all you "sack Harry" types have no realistic suggestions for a summer replacement.

 

[Zimmy]

Did they really?? They had a lot of possession but created hardly any clear cut chances. The one scary moment was our own fault when Gomes came charging out.
And the reason is we were solid tactically, just as we were in the 1st leg.
Yes they passed the ball a lot, but we weren't passed off the pitch. And in fairness they're Serie A #1 so should be able to keep the ball.

Who are you trying to kid?

We never got close to them in that game. Right from the off we couldn't string two passes together. It just so happens that our destroyer in midfield, and our two centre backs managed to put out enough fires to keep a clean sheet.

It doesn't change the fact that the contrast between the two sides technically was monumental and that our credentials as a serious team in Europe didn't look quite as assured as they had done a fortnight previous.

 

[Welshiespursboyo]

As frustrating as the last month or so has been....

Absolutely fucking not. You're a moron.

:clap:

 

[Mr Pink]

Pace? What pace?

Pepe gave him a yard start and then made him look like he was running in quick sand.

he looks quick cos he has little legs... he cover NO ground.

Look...he's the quickest of our four forwards.

 

[Maske2g]

Look...he's the quickest of our four forwards.

And I'm the quickest in my family....so what. He's paceless.

 

[Mr Pink]

Defoe had pace once, but he's lost some of it so I don't buy the pace argument. Plus, basics, is it really realistic who play a player who has managed so few goals this season when you are trying to defend to give yourself a chance in the return leg. If Defoe can't score against bottom of the table sides did Harry really think he was going to do the business with 10 men against RM?

I find the substitution utterly baffling, but ultimately it's a seperate issue from the OP.

He wasn't on to solely get a goal! After our start the plan became one of damage limitation - that was clear.

Defoe was brought on to give us more options in terms of an outlet and by playing on the shoulder it was designed to push Madrid back a bit. For a brief period he actually did alright and at least we got out of our half on a couple of occasions.

If you think Harry brought on Defoe for the sole pupose of him poaching a goal you're very mistaken. A lovely bonus had it happened but it was most definitely tactical from the point of view of the way the game had taken shape - which was us boxed in our final third for 90% of game.

Harry was thinking damage limitation to keep the tie alive for the return leg. Anything to get us up the pitch more and just something for Madrid to think about.

 

[Mr Pink]

And I'm the quickest in my family....so what. He's paceless.

Tell someone who cares...

 

[Zimmy]

VDV did a better job than Defoe.Though I could see the sense in bringing on him at some point, half time seemed a tad too early.

 

[Batspur]

VDV did a better job than Defoe.Though I could see the sense in bringing on him at some point, half time seemed a tad too early.

I felt the same about vdv. He was obviously knackered and also angry enough to get a second yellow but I would have kept him on till at least the 60 min mark. Baffling stuff. Also choosing Defoe above Pav was strange.

 

[Mr Pink]

VDV did a better job than Defoe.Though I could see the sense in bringing on him at some point, half time seemed a tad too early.

He really didn't though....we were certainly more tired as a team in the second half though, understandably. I think people see the conceding of three goals in the second half and that influences their judgement.

VDV did very little in my eyes...I was glad to see him coming off and being totally honest he's been like this for weeks now, although last night is hardly fair to just single him out. There was obviously a lot more to it in terms of our downfall.

 

[14/04/91]

Who are you trying to kid?

We never got close to them in that game. Right from the off we couldn't string two passes together. It just so happens that our destroyer in midfield, and our two centre backs managed to put out enough fires to keep a clean sheet.

It doesn't change the fact that the contrast between the two sides technically was monumental and that our credentials as a serious team in Europe didn't look quite as assured as they had done a fortnight previous.

I don't think we needed to get close to them. We held a good line, 2 banks of 4 and frustrated them. We almost looked Italian!! True we didn't keep the ball that well but defensively we were sound.
I honestly thought (especially over 2 legs) we looked very decent against a seasoned Euro side.
Last night is a different matter; I can't judge us when we only had 10 men. Madrid are certainly a step on from AC though.

 

[Maske2g]

Tell someone who cares...

The whole site cares that we have a paceless strike force.

Must be nice to coast along with shit in your eyes and a lack of ambition.