Time for Harry to go ?

[full-frontal-nudity]

In my opinion the thing we need to take us to the 'next level' is cash, and lots and lots of it not a new manager.

I fear that when Harry goes we'll enter another period of instability that will do great harm to this club. The grass often is not greener.

I know for a fact we had big cash to sign players in January.
It was Harrys reluctance on signing the players Levy wanted to bring in.
Because just like Tactics. He hasn't got a clue in the transfer market for a big club like us.
I have contemplated that he actually thinks he's still at pompey.

 

[full-frontal-nudity]

he had cash in january & he couldnt identify that suarez was better than anything we have....ANYTHING by a mile!!

thats just not good enough! it simply isnt!

thugs in black thugs with straps thugs bussin back at the law!!

bone bone bone bone bone

 

[Welshiespursboyo]

I don't think that slagging off Harry, calling him names, etc is appropriate at all. Regardless of what is currently happening, he deserves total respect for what he has achieved with us so far.

That being said, my faith IS slowly waning at the moment. I do have some doubts which are growing increasingly stronger, that Harry has taken us as far as he can, and that possibly a change is needed. The rest of the season will really shape whether I'm right about that or not.

We shall see.

 

[adiepf]

I don't think that slagging off Harry, calling him names, etc is appropriate at all. Regardless of what is currently happening, he deserves total respect for what he has achieved with us so far.

That being said, my faith IS slowly waning at the moment. I do have some doubts which are growing increasingly stronger, that Harry has taken us as far as he can, and that possibly a change is needed. The rest of the season will really shape whether I'm right about that or not.

We shall see.

like i said before, hes a top bloke, no doubt but.....he thinks we are pompey...

end of season he needs to go....

when your at pompey if you scattergun purchase players from spurs/villa etc then its gonna improve your team no matter what cos your POMPEY!...

when your spurs you need to identify class next level players....he CANT do it...hes been around for years & he just CANT do it!

its not his fault, im good at my job but there are PLENTY better!

 

[Welshiespursboyo]

like i said before, hes a top bloke, no doubt but.....he thinks we are pompey...

end of season he needs to go....

when your at pompey if you scattergun purchase players from spurs/villa etc then its gonna improve your team no matter what cos your POMPEY!...

when your spurs you need to identify class next level players....he CANT do it...hes been around for years & he just CANT do it!

its not his fault, im good at my job but there are PLENTY better!

I wasn't having a go at you, btw mate, rather having a go at some of the more 'childish' and blatant name calling posts that have been made here. I agree with a lot of the points you have made :up:

 

[adiepf]

I wasn't having a go at you, btw mate, rather having a go at some of the more 'childish' and blatant name calling posts that have been made here. I agree with a lot of the points you have made :up:

i know mate, just making a general point

 

[striebs]

In my opinion the thing we need to take us to the 'next level' is cash, and lots and lots of it not a new manager.

I fear that when Harry goes we'll enter another period of instability that will do great harm to this club. The grass often is not greener.

That is what Ramos said .

He realised pretty quickly that Spurs were not keen on spending it and engineered himself a move away - smart guy .


It tells you a lot about the board that they were prepared to pay a coach £100k/wk (Ramos) but had a pay structure which restricted players to 50k/wk .

Also I think our club may be finally suffering the effects of the departures of old club secretary John Alexander and old commercial director Paul Barber at around the same time .

 

[DEFchenkOE]

Harry has taken us to the next level, he took us to the champions league ffs. Yes we got dicked on last night, but we will only learn from this.

It's true, as much as Harry's decisions baffle me at times, we're already at the next level, we finished 4th last year and we're in the CL 1/4 finals. That's a level we haven't been at in my lifetime (26 years).

I would say the next level above this would be competing for the title/CL year in year out and for a club like ours that would be difficult for any manager in fairness.

 

[Zammo]

I know for a fact we had big cash to sign players in January.
It was Harrys reluctance on signing the players Levy wanted to bring in.
Because just like Tactics. He hasn't got a clue in the transfer market for a big club like us.
I have contemplated that he actually thinks he's still at pompey.

I agree that the failure to strengthen our front line in January was frustrating at the time and is looking foolish now.

However I wasn't party to what was happening when we were attempting to acquire these players, so any comment I make is based purely on speculation or 'ITK'. I would be surprised to be honest if anyone on this forum has actual hard facts about each of the failed transfers.

 

[pcross99]

Dear god, what a muppet, what a ridiculous post. Time for Defoe, Keane and Pav to go yes! and bring in a top top striker, but we all know that don't we.

 

[mpickard2087]

It's true, as much as Harry's decisions baffle me at times, we're already at the next level, we finished 4th last year and we're in the CL 1/4 finals. That's a level we haven't been at in my lifetime (26 years).

I would say the next level above this would be competing for the title/CL year in year out and for a club like ours that would be difficult for any manager in fairness.

Well said.

 

[adiepf]

I agree that the failure to strengthen our front line in January was frustrating at the time and is looking foolish now.

However I wasn't party to what was happening when we were attempting to acquire these players, so any comment I make is based purely on speculation or 'ITK'. I would be surprised to be honest if anyone on this forum has actual hard facts about each of the failed transfers.

we deffo had options on suarez, he was well within all our budgets & we had been following him for some time...

comolli has taken our best european scout with him, he is a top class, so is comolli....

we could have gotten suarez, Harry didnt think he was good enough-fact

Harry has stated himself, the chairman would have spent £35m on a striker....he wanted a top player, the money was there...H couldnt identify a striker in his opinion that was better than what we have...

epic failure imo

 

[Zammo]

we deffo had options on suarez, he was well within all our budgets & we had been following him for some time...

comolli has taken our best european scout with him, he is a top class, so is comolli....

we could have gotten suarez, Harry didnt think he was good enough-fact

Harry has stated himself, the chairman would have spent £35m on a striker....he wanted a top player, the money was there...H couldnt identify a striker in his opinion that was better than what we have...

epic failure imo

Perhaps Suarez didn't want to come? Perhaps his wages demands were to high? Perhaps he's a massive Beatles fan.
Maybe you are right, maybe you are wrong.
I'm not defending Harry, but things that get stated as fact on an internet forum need to be taken with a pinch of salt.

 

[Bobbins]

He has lost the dressing room with a number of our players

You're literally just making shit up.

People aren't neg repping you because they're 'numbskulls' - they're neg repping you because of this stupid, knee-jerk, ridiculous thread.

You could've started one expressing your genuine concerns and questioning whether Harry might be entirely focused on the team, whether his tactics are right at the moment etc, but the first thing you did, ten minutes after losing a quarter-final first-leg away from home to Real Madrid, was start to call for his head (and don't claim you weren't, just because you were only 'suggesting' it).

There are legitimate points to make about our strikers, our poor transfers, our poor performances, our formations etc. That doesn't mean it's automatically time to sack our manager and start all over again, yet again.

 

[adiepf]

question who would you rather lose?

modric or redknapp

bale or redknapp

vdv or redknapp

interested cos vdv is a worldy on his day but i am sensing there is something seriously wrong with there relationship??...

could we attract a better player?

or could we attract a better manager to mange vdv??....

which?

 

[dimiSpur]

It's hard to disagree with this TBH. And responding to all criticism of Harry by calling it "knee-jerk" is a little knee-jerk in itself, quite frankly.

Harry has done very well for us but is he actually going to take us to the next level? On current evidence one would have to say no.

No, I called the notion to sack Harry knee-jerk. The mistakes pointed out over last night's shambles I totally agree with, I just don't see them reason enough to sack a man who's turned us from relegation candidates into CL quarter-finalists.

 

[Krafty]

No need to sack him as long as he uses the experience to improve. Remember this was not only the club's and a lot of the players first time in the CL but also Harry's, and I still feel he hasnt got his ideal squad together. Mistakes have been made, in hindsight, but for the most part he's been spot on and really its individual errors/ineptitude that has cost us.

 

[talkshowhost86]

That is what Ramos said .

He realised pretty quickly that Spurs were not keen on spending it and engineered himself a move away - smart guy .

:grin:

He engineered himself a move away? By being rubbish? It's perhaps worth noting that with the same board, therefore the same money, Redknapp has taken us from bottom of the league (where Ramos left us) to the quarter finals of the Champions League.

Blaming the board for anything at the moment is a bit odd.

 

[Azrael]

What a silly thread. Sure, questions have to be asked of Harry in terms of team selection (why did Defoe play last night?) and transfer skills (re: the obvious), but to call for his sacking because we lose with 10 men against the biggest team in Europe is hardly justified. In fact it's crazy.

I'd like to ask MattC who he proposes to bring in to replace Harry to has a realistic chance of bettering what Harry has done thus far?

 

[adiepf]

No, I called the notion to sack Harry knee-jerk. The mistakes pointed out over last night's shambles I totally agree with, I just don't see them reason enough to sack a man who's turned us from relegation candidates into CL quarter-finalists.

lets have this right, we were NEVER gonna get relegated...not in a million years...

that squad had finished 5th, 5th & won the carling cup in the 3 years prior...