Time to drop Parker.

[Misfit]

Ahead of Bale, Modric and Van der Vaart.

I dont think so.

wut?

 

[Bus-Conductor]

The guy was really good in the first half of the season but he is extremely limited in terms of his productivity. Everything he does is very simple and pointless.

Time for Livermore and Sandro.

He has got a little leaden footed when he gets into and around the oppositions's area lately but to boil his contribution down to this and suggest Livermore or Sandro would be better options in the role that Parker plays is frankly just demonstrating a lack of understanding of what he is doing and how it relates to the team dynamic as a whole.

Whilst also holding the fort of one of the laziest off-the-ball midfields in the country?

Parker has so much to do in our team, so much responsibility to allow players like Modric, Bale and VDV to do what they do. I don't see how you can question it.

It's no coincidence that Palacios' best form was with either Jenas or Hudd sharing his workload. Stick him next to Modric and you saw a different player.

This post was pretty much the end of the thread for me. It's exactly that. Nevermind Livermore, Sandro is a better player then Parker is and will be for years to come, but what Scotty has brought us from the first day he came here was something we've lacked and needed for so long it's embarrassing. It's not a coincidence that we're are suddenly big fish ever since the time Parker joined us. He has done a lot for us and I think any criticism would be unfair, he's not there to score goals. With a midfield of van der Vaart, Bale, Modric etc. it's ridiculous to think we are criticising the defensive midfielder for not attacking well enough. Yeah, he's safe on the ball and is nothing spectacular going forward, but to overlook exactly what Parker does for us is absolutely insane.

That's not to say Livermore hasn't come on a lot though. This lad has really looked the part as a Premiership footballer which is strange as from what I heard he didn't really do too well in the Championship. But fair play to him, I'm yet to see him have a bad game really.

But Sandro is definitely the player we need here for the next ten years. The man just oozes quality. He is top class and keeping him is as pivotal as keeping Modric for me.

I wouldn't go as far as the hyperbole about Sandro, I like him, think he's a good DM etc, but don't think he's going to be a box to box player of the highest calibre, just a DM of the highest calibre, he's certainly no better than Parker when he does go forward.

But the rest of this and Kendall's stuff is bang there really. Every week he runs his arse into the ground covering other arses, tracking back, covering liberties that others take, covering other's poor pressing right and left and still comes forward and joins in attacks. Would like to improve on him. Hell yes. How easy would it be ? Fucking hard. Yaya Toure cost 24m.

And Jake Livermore's a good pro with an economical ball distribution, but he ain't no upgrade on Parker. Not even close.

 

[danielneeds]

OP is misguided. Twice tonight Walker and BAE found themselves cutting inside and venturing all the way to the opposite wing. As they wandered back to their positions who was there covering their position? One guess, Scotty P. Selfless team stuff like this is what makes a good team tick.

 

[Mr Pink]

He has got a little leaden footed when he gets into and around the oppositions's area lately but to boil his contribution down to this and suggest Livermore or Sandro would be better options in the role that Parker plays is frankly just demonstrating a lack of understanding of what he is doing and how it relates to the team dynamic as a whole.







I wouldn't go as far as the hyperbole about Sandro, I like him, think he's a good DM etc, but don't think he's going to be a box to box player of the highest calibre, just a DM of the highest calibre, he's certainly no better than Parker when he does go forward.

But the rest of this and Kendall's stuff is bang there really. Every week he runs his arse into the ground covering other arses, tracking back, covering liberties that others take, covering other's poor pressing right and left and still comes forward and joins in attacks. Would like to improve on him. Hell yes. How easy would it be ? Fucking hard. Yaya Toure cost 24m.

And Jake Livermore's a good pro with an economical ball distribution, but he ain't no upgrade on Parker. Not even close.

Come on BC, Livermore was good tonight and I think his passing wasn't just economical all of the time, he hit a couple of great passes.

 

[Spurrific]

Played a lovely slid pass through to the left wing for Bale too. I really like the guy, good attitude, hard working, technically astute (IMO), seems like he gives a shit and he's fearless.

 

[Misfit]

Agree about Livermore. Bloody good addition to the squad.

 

[Twizzle]

next season

1.Sandro
2. Jake
3. Parker

in that order

 

[InOffMeLeftShin]

next season

1.Sandro
2. Jake
3. Parker

in that order

Say what? I don't think that is how it will be to be honest. Personally I think Sandro and Parker are quite different players who tend to get tarred with the same brush simply because they put in a few tackles. Sandro to me seems to read it a little better when he is in front of the defence and puts himself in the right places to stop teams playing through the midfield. Parker is more of an all-action, grab the game by the scruff of the neck, try to do all the work of everyone around him type midfielder. I think there is a definite call for both.

In the situation where we play both I'd definitely see Parker as the one pushing forward more often. When we were on a roll earlier in the season he was actually playing a few nice passes in attacking areas. of course at that point his work rate was infectious and we were getting better shifts out of our other midfielders which has seemed to slow to almost nothing of late.

Far from writing off Parker. He is going to be a part of our side next season too.

 

[not_tenth-again]

He needs resting, not dropping. He's into the last few years of his career and his health and fitness therefore need to be managed a bit more actively.... which is also a positive for the development Sandro and Livermore as they will get more game time. It's a win / win for the club.... if we ever rotated properly. I think the keepers are the only part of our squad that get rotated correctly

On Parker - does anyone think he's shortchanged himself by taking the money options earlier in his career? Don't get me wrong he's a fabulous player but does anyone think moving to Chelsea (which stunted his opportunities) and then a battling Newcastle followed by a woeful West Ham, he's effectively had to curb the attacking side of his game so much he's almost lost it? - I mean to me he looked a box-to-box at Charlton with goal scoring potential. He's now a DM's DM

 

[Spurs_Bear]

Harry has dropped some bollocks this year, but nobody dropped a bigger one than the dear chairman for failing to get Parker in before the first league game.

As for the post above with the pecking order for next year, genuine LOL. :lol:

Parker + Sandro
Parker + Livermore (way overhyped is old Jakey boy, but hey ho)
Parker + Modric

Parker is the glue, and until the others are able to do the disciplined job that he is, he will quite rightly be the first name on the teamsheet, it was no coincedence that he didn't appear on the losing side for what appeared a shit load of league games when we first signed him.

As for Livermore, it's a case of the Pav syndrome with people seeing a bit more than is actually there because they want to, he was decent tonight but he's still quite rightly backup to Parker, then Sandro.

 

[Spurs_Bear]

I wouldn't go as far as the hyperbole about Sandro, I like him, think he's a good DM etc, but don't think he's going to be a box to box player of the highest calibre, just a DM of the highest calibre, he's certainly no better than Parker when he does go forward.

But the rest of this and Kendall's stuff is bang there really. Every week he runs his arse into the ground covering other arses, tracking back, covering liberties that others take, covering other's poor pressing right and left and still comes forward and joins in attacks. Would like to improve on him. Hell yes. How easy would it be ? Fucking hard. Yaya Toure cost 24m.

And Jake Livermore's a good pro with an economical ball distribution, but he ain't no upgrade on Parker. Not even close.

This is on the money for me, if it was a Facebook status I would definitely 'like' it.

One thing us yids do better than anyone else (bar the Scousers but then they are not a human race) is overhype our players to the point where they are built up to be something that they never ever will be.

 

[Wheeler Dealer]

next season

1.Sandro
2. Jake
3. Parker

in that order

That will deliver absolutlely no progression what so ever.

 

[MightyModric]

We have arguably the best midfield in the league, and Parker makes up part of that midfield.

Keep him there, he does the job.

 

[kungfugrip]

Parker has made the most tackles in the Prem League this year (as of last wekend - Opta). This is exactly what we've been missing with our useless midfielders for years. keep it up Scott.

 

[jurgen]

He has got a little leaden footed when he gets into and around the oppositions's area lately but to boil his contribution down to this and suggest Livermore or Sandro would be better options in the role that Parker plays is frankly just demonstrating a lack of understanding of what he is doing and how it relates to the team dynamic as a whole.

I wouldn't go as far as the hyperbole about Sandro, I like him, think he's a good DM etc, but don't think he's going to be a box to box player of the highest calibre, just a DM of the highest calibre, he's certainly no better than Parker when he does go forward.

But the rest of this and Kendall's stuff is bang there really. Every week he runs his arse into the ground covering other arses, tracking back, covering liberties that others take, covering other's poor pressing right and left and still comes forward and joins in attacks. Would like to improve on him. Hell yes. How easy would it be ? Fucking hard. Yaya Toure cost 24m.

And Jake Livermore's a good pro with an economical ball distribution, but he ain't no upgrade on Parker. Not even close.

Agree with this, apart from his banger against Chelsea, and a couple of decent-ish runs I think there's not that many indications Sandro will become the Vieira some people think he will. From my eyes, he's pretty inconsistent with his passing, but his ability to shield and tackle is already really very good - but as pointed out earlier, both he and Livermore don't have Parker's reading of the game yet. But I see Sandro's position as the deeper lying Parker role rather than as a box-to-box player... absolutely.

I would be keen to see more of the Scotty/Jake axis because I think Livermore is a little more physical and dynamic in his play which complements Parker rather well, and he's potentially likely to spread the play quicker and with more incision than the other two. If we continue to play 3 CM's, I think Livermore will be a very useful squad player, he's neat, tidy and has a decent physical presence and stamina. I would also love to see big Tommy Hudd in a 3 with Parker/Sandro and Modric when he's back though.

 

[CosmicHotspur]

I'm frankly surprised at how many of you underrate Parker. He's a valuable squad member and puts in a hell of a lot of effort every game.

He's a tough little cookie, never afraid to get in there and fight for the ball and we needed those kind of guts to bolster the team.

A bargain buy imho.

 

[Misfit]

This is on the money for me, if it was a Facebook status I would definitely 'like' it.

One thing us yids do better than anyone else (bar the Scousers but then they are not a human race) is overhype our players to the point where they are built up to be something that they never ever will be.

Where's this happened then?

Other than many countering constant criticisms and "ohnoez" from some nail-biters whenever Livermore's name appears on the team sheet that he isn't in fact entirely made up of dog shit, I haven't seen anyone saying he's the next big thing. (Despite someone putting Parker 3rd in a list of defensively-minded DMs which raised a smile and there's always one). He is great value as 3rd/4th choice in the DM role and provides us with good, young and homegrown depth in that area.

 

[Spurs_Bear]

Where's this happened then?

Other than many countering constant criticisms and "ohnoez" from some nail-biters whenever Livermore's name appears on the team sheet that he isn't in fact entirely made up of dog shit, I haven't seen anyone saying he's the next big thing. (Despite someone putting Parker 3rd in a list of defensively-minded DMs which raised a smile and there's always one). He is great value as 3rd/4th choice in the DM role and provides us with good, young and homegrown depth in that area.

Everywhere, and not just with Livermore.

Pav
Gomes
Rose
etc

 

[JerryGarcia]

Is it April 1st yet? Is this thread a joke?

 

[theaman]

Parker is indispensable. A must on every Spurs timesheet.

Cannot even entertain the thought of dropping him.