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Tottenham Vs Bolton: match Thread

Spurger King

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Just watched MotD highlights. Just wanted to say - Gary Lineker - I love you :grin:
 

nferno

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Linkear is a lej haha, altho Hansen DID praise us lol
 

spur_souljah

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The commentator basically said 'Allah' a reference when something is great/beautiful, i.e. the great goal.. he called tottenham the team of dreamers and also mentioned that huddlestones goal was amazing..
 

spurs_viola

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A lot has already been said about our strikers who have not scored from open play for several games now. While their lack of precision in front of the goal has been a major reason, I think we should also note the lack of good service on many occasions during the last few matches - even though they should have scored from the chances that they did have.

I'm afraid the main culprit - ironicaly at the same time as the main creative threat! - in not providing the forwards with the proper ball when required has been the player in the most impressive form of late - one Gareth Bale.

Before people get excited, let's please pay attention to the several occasions when after a great run Bale would go for the goal from a tight angle, while a forward - most of the time Pavlyuchenko - was in a much better position and a simple pass would have made a much more clear-cut chance to score. Okay, many would snidely say that Pav would have probably missed anyway - but actually, apart from the 2 really good chances v Chelski, his other misses came from not exactly clear-cut chances. Today was a good example.

He should have probably scored at least one goal, but none of the chances were as clear cut as the one missed by Gudjonssen (not for the first time BTW).
At the same time, his movement has been consistently good (better than Defoe's) in all those matches, and what is a good sign is that in spite of the misses, he still wants the ball and still makes good, clever runs into space. And that is why the team still plays better with him up front than with Crouch, even when both of them are not scoring.

If Bale squared to Pav or Defoe at least a couple of times after his runs into the box, when one or both strikers (usually Pav) pulled up cleverly into space behind the defenders, we could well have scored that second goal - and I think the third would have followed. Same with Modric early in 1st half, when he chose to shoot weakly instead of making a simple through ball to Pav who moved free of defender and would have had a clear shot one on one.

Much as we have praised Bale recently, I hope he is not letting it go to his head too much, becoming too selfish and going for the goal every time he has a chance, while ignoring teammates in much better positions.
 

ziggy

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A lot has already been said about our strikers who have not scored from open play for several games now. While their lack of precision in front of the goal has been a major reason, I think we should also note the lack of good service on many occasions during the last few matches - even though they should have scored from the chances that they did have.

I'm afraid the main culprit - ironicaly at the same time as the main creative threat! - in not providing the forwards with the proper ball when required has been the player in the most impressive form of late - one Gareth Bale.

Before people get excited, let's please pay attention to the several occasions when after a great run Bale would go for the goal from a tight angle, while a forward - most of the time Pavlyuchenko - was in a much better position and a simple pass would have made a much clear-cut chance to score. Okay, many would snidely say that Pav would have probably missed anyway - but actually, apart from the 2 really good chances v Chelski, his other misses came from not exactly clear-cut chances. Today was a good example.

He should have probably scored at least one goal, but none of the chances were as clear cut as the one missed by Gudjonssen (not for the first time BTW).
At the same time, his movement has been consistently good (better than Defoe's) in all those matches, and what is a good sign is that in spite of the misses, he still wants the ball and still makes good, clever runs into space. And that is why the team still plays better with him up front than with Crouch, even when both of them are not scoring.

If Bale squared to Pav or Defoe at least a couple of times after his runs into the box, when one or both strikers (usually Pav) pulled up cleverly into space behind the defenders, we could well have scored that second goal - and I think the third would have followed. Same with Modric early in 1st half, when he chose to shoot weakly instead of making a simple through ball to Pav who moved free of defender and would have had a clear shot one on one.

Much as we have praised Bale recently, I hope he is not letting it go to his head too much, becoming too selfish and going for the goal every time he a chance, while ignoring teammates in much better positions.

Good points, something I was alluding to earlier when I said that whoeve was up front for us would still need the chances and our strikers aren't being given them. Hopefully Lennon when fully fit will help but whatever we are still in the driving seat for 4th so whatever the team is doing, chances or not for the strikers is OK by me atm.
 

Gilzeanking

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A lot has already been said about our strikers who have not scored from open play for several games now. While their lack of precision in front of the goal has been a major reason, I think we should also note the lack of good service on many occasions during the last few matches - even though they should have scored from the chances that they did have.

The best killer through passes recently, came from Defoe .I agree that final ball to our forwards is part of our striker's drought.
 

Coyboy

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Dec 3, 2004
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A lot has already been said about our strikers who have not scored from open play for several games now. While their lack of precision in front of the goal has been a major reason, I think we should also note the lack of good service on many occasions during the last few matches - even though they should have scored from the chances that they did have.

I'm afraid the main culprit - ironicaly at the same time as the main creative threat! - in not providing the forwards with the proper ball when required has been the player in the most impressive form of late - one Gareth Bale.

Before people get excited, let's please pay attention to the several occasions when after a great run Bale would go for the goal from a tight angle, while a forward - most of the time Pavlyuchenko - was in a much better position and a simple pass would have made a much clear-cut chance to score. Okay, many would snidely say that Pav would have probably missed anyway - but actually, apart from the 2 really good chances v Chelski, his other misses came from not exactly clear-cut chances. Today was a good example.

He should have probably scored at least one goal, but none of the chances were as clear cut as the one missed by Gudjonssen (not for the first time BTW).
At the same time, his movement has been consistently good (better than Defoe's) in all those matches, and what is a good sign is that in spite of the misses, he still wants the ball and still makes good, clever runs into space. And that is why the team still plays better with him up front than with Crouch, even when both of them are not scoring.

If Bale squared to Pav or Defoe at least a couple of times after his runs into the box, when one or both strikers (usually Pav) pulled up cleverly into space behind the defenders, we could well have scored that second goal - and I think the third would have followed. Same with Modric early in 1st half, when he chose to shoot weakly instead of making a simple through ball to Pav who moved free of defender and would have had a clear shot one on one.

Much as we have praised Bale recently, I hope he is not letting it go to his head too much, becoming too selfish and going for the goal every time he a chance, while ignoring teammates in much better positions.

Yea selfish Bale wanting to score after doing so against two of the best teams in the league:duh:. It's called confidence. He has the skill and brought two good saves from the keeper but did put crosses in for the strikers, one which no one gambled on, one which Knight beat Pav to and one which Pav almost got.

It was not many times, he shot from a tight angle rather than cross, it was about once and it wasn't a tight angle just not a sufficienlty powerful or placed shot and a very very good save. But if you want to heap blame on one of our best players to explain Pav's bad patch, go ahead. Whether he has better movement than Defoe is moot, they are pretty equal to be fair.

You are just guessing he has become selfish and believed the hype, it was the same odd theory some people used vis. Lennon when he was on form. They have the confidence to try long shots and audacious tricks. I would prefer they do that then retreat to their shell as they have both done at times.

And EG's miss was bad, very casual- but no worse than Pav's against Chelsea which was one of a fair few he should have put away.

I can't imagine your outcry when Bale scored against Chelsea, the selfish prick.
 

thinktank

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Sep 28, 2004
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The best killer through passes recently, came from Defoe .I agree that final ball to our forwards is part of our striker's drought.

The problem is that our strikers do not attack the 6 yard box. Pav does it more than most (though not enough), but it is still a part of the game that is missing from our repertoire up front. Many great balls have been fizzed across the goal mouth only to be missed by slow reaction or anticipation or lack of desire or guile to take a chance and make an angled dash/dart towards the kill zone.

We would capitalize more on final third opportunities if our strikers had more desire and anticipation to penetrate in this respect.
 

Rocksuperstar

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Jun 6, 2005
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Guys, please, can't we all pause for a moment and salute the effort Kaboom put in yesterday? He was solid throughout, i don't think i saw him caught out once and, when he found himself out of position, he was working his tiny French testicles off to get back. Made some immense tackles and interceptions and all that at RB, not one of his natural positions but could well become one it seems.

After his last spell with us, and the rather hap-hazard aggression we saw him display at Pompey, despite really wanting him to do well (he was f*cking cool - ever understands) he never struck me as the type of guy to produce a performance like he did. Maybe his time on the coast got some of the anarchy out of his game and, now he's had time to hang around with the likes of Ledley, Dawson and Charlie, he's beginning to find a technique amongst all them horse eating jokes.

Despite the injury situation at the moment, our defence is actually looking quite well set for a few years to come if we can keep hold of our current crop.
 

Rocksuperstar

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Actualy, something i did notice during the game and i meant to ask if anyone else had spotted it - the amount of lip the Bolton players appeared to be giving our boys? At one point, Pav was tugging on his socks waiting for a corner, Robinson was in his ear, bending over and getting in his face. Well, for one, he obviously doesn't know Pav speaks barely any English whatsoever, so whilst it was obvious gamesmanship, it was also sort of hilarious. Later on though, i noticed Kaboom, Ledley, Bentley and Bale all getting shit from various players.

I didn't realise smack-talking the oppo was still so popular! I remember seeing it happen back in the 80's and early 90's, with Wimbledon and Millwall being prime culprits as windup merchants but i've not seen that in top flight football for ages.

Kudos to all the lads (who spoke enough English to understand) for not rising to it.
 
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