Tottenham Vs Leicester: Match Thread

[eViL]

Our set-pieces are dogshit. Sorry Christian.

All of players want a 'soft' first touch before doing something instead of starting a move or movement which instantly puts the opposition on the back foot and slows everything down instead.

Too many long balls when the chips are down.

Too much shifting the ball side to side instead of getting it forward quickly (hoofing it doesn't count).

Not enough off the ball movement in behind from the wingers.

 

[Monkey boy]

Oh what ive give to have a David Ginola in this team.

 

[Shea]

I was with you right up until this point. Sorry but in my eyes they are exactly that, a team of mid table cloggers and I will be flabbergasted if they finish above 10th IMHO. If you had put a West Brom or Stoke kit on them yesterday then nobody would have been able to tell the difference. They literally plonk 10 men behind the ball and then lump it forward to their one striker. If you do get passed that first line of defence then you get either the cynical little foul to break up the play or the worst kind of foul for me which is the blatant rugby tackle like that prick Simpson did on Son in the closing minutes.

Current champions they may be but they are a mugging mid table team all day long.

They have more quality on the counter than a run of the mill midtable clogger

That makes them dangerous

 

[eViL]

Oh what ive give to have a David Ginola in this team.

It's exactly what we're missing.

 

[thebenjamin]

Oh what ive give to have a David Ginola in this team.

Way too lazy, would never get selected.

 

[Monkey boy]

They have more quality on the counter than a run of the mill midtable clogger

That makes them dangerous

Again I disagree. Vardy, Mahrez, Albrighton and Musa are no more dangerous than your Benteke, Townsend, Zaha or a Shaqiri, Bojan, Bony for example.

If it wasn't for the woeful goal we conceded yesterday which even after Wanyamas inexplicable mistake could and should have been defended a whole lot better then they would have once again gone a whole game without creating a single chance of note.

They lucked out last season due to a number of factors which was horrible for us but I think we are all now seeing the true Leicester which is nothing more than a team of cloggers defending for their lives hoping to knick a goal from a set piece.

 

[Monkey boy]

Way too lazy, would never get selected.

Whilst I agree with you about the laziness, I think with the way we are set up we could afford to carry a player like him. Somebody who knew how to use the ball and create chances all on his own. Dare I say it a Payet.

 

[thebenjamin]

Whilst I agree with you about the laziness, I think with the way we are set up we could afford to carry a player like him. Somebody who knew how to use the ball and create chances all on his own. Dare I say it a Payet.

We probably could, but still Pochettino would never select a player like that, it would undermine his entire ethos.

 

[Shea]

Again I disagree. Vardy, Mahrez, Albrighton and Musa are no more dangerous than your Benteke, Townsend, Zaha or a Shaqiri, Bojan, Bony for example.

If it wasn't for the woeful goal we conceded yesterday which even after Wanyamas inexplicable mistake could and should have been defended a whole lot better then they would have once again gone a whole game without creating a single chance of note.

They lucked out last season due to a number of factors which was horrible for us but I think we are all now seeing the true Leicester which is nothing more than a team of cloggers defending for their lives hoping to knick a goal from a set piece.

We can agree to disagree then

I agree they're by no means a top team but equally I think there is more to them than the sum of their parts and while the fact they won the league doesnt mean they're one of the elite it does (in my opinion) mean there's more to them than the likes of palace and stoke even if a player for player comparison on paper doesn't highlight this

Their league title can't be dismissed or discredited to the extent you are discrediting it

I don't believe even in an easy cl group that the likes of palace or stoke would have maximum points in the CL so far but I think Leicester's blend of players and tactics which enabled them to win the league is enabling them to perform well in Europe

They don't have the depth to compete on both fronts, they lost a key player in kante, teams may have figured them out a little and they may have a hangover from their success but to me there is still something about them that sets them above the likes of palace and stoke (possibly even everton)

 

[guiltyparty]

They have more quality on the counter than a run of the mill midtable clogger

That makes them dangerous

Yep. All dangerous teams have super-quick forward/attacking mids in the mix to stretch teams out

Arsenal have Sanchez, Walcott
Man City have Sterling, Sane, Navas
Liverpool have Mane, Coutinho (not even including Origi, who's super-quick too)
Chelsea have Hazard, Willian
Leicester have Vardy, Musa

Spurs have no attacker with any real pace, we rely almost exclusively on our full backs overlapping. Vertonghen, when he gets forward, seems to have more pace than a lot of our attackers.

Also intriguingly, of the top 20 fastest footballers last season according to this study thing, Leicester have 5 in there (Vardy, Schlupp, Albrighton, Da Laet, Morgan). Spurs have two: Walker and Sissoko (then for Newcastle). So that's what Sissoko needs to bring to the party as it certainly won't be many goals (31 in 305 games).

But it's not all roaring pace, there's also quickness of thought. City, Arsenal, Liverpool even Chelsea have quick brains, fast moves. This is what we need to get back to and what the likes of Eriksen and Lamela really can bring to the table.

Leicester don't play like that, they sit back, soak it up, lump it forward and run on to it fast as they can.

 

[Gambler]

I'm sorry but by calling them the champions you have completely weakened your argument. Leicester are a mid table team who got lucky with a once in a lifetime streak. Nothing more. Nothing less. There is nothing about them that is worthy of being called champions.

First point away from home I think the commentator said.

 

[guiltyparty]

Again I disagree. Vardy, Mahrez, Albrighton and Musa are no more dangerous than your Benteke, Townsend, Zaha or a Shaqiri, Bojan, Bony for example.

Sorry this is dogshit. Mahrez was 2015/16 Player of the Year. Vardy scored 24 goals in 36 games and is on the Ballon D'or shortlist. Albrighton was in the PL's fastest team of the year and played every single game for the team who won the league.

Now look at all those other names you've listed and feel rightfully embarrassed.

Fucking Wilfried "Can't score, won't score" Bony

 

[Shadydan]

We probably could, but still Pochettino would never select a player like that, it would undermine his entire ethos.

Payet used to play under Bielsa so it's not as if he's alien to the press.

 

[guiltyparty]

First point away from home I think the commentator said.

I think they got a bit brave earlier in the season, riding on the understandable arrogance of winning the league. Had new players they'd bought on big money for first time, they dropped busy fuck Okazaki to play their new fancy striker.

They've also had Champions League (where they've won every game) and are clearly prioritising that, with a fairly smallish squad. The Tinkerman came back, moved away from what they were good at, ideas above their usual station, etc.

Against us they went back to predominantly the side that played last season, and looked better for it. Bar a very iffy penalty, they could have nicked it old-season style too.

 

[Monkey boy]

Sorry this is dogshit. Mahrez was 2015/16 Player of the Year. Vardy scored 24 goals in 36 games and is on the Ballon D'or shortlist. Albrighton was in the PL's fastest team of the year and played every single game for the team who won the league.

Now look at all those other names you've listed and feel rightfully embarrassed.

Fucking Wilfried "Can't score, won't score" Bony

The same Bony that many on here were clamouring for before he went to Man City. You know the guy who scored a lot of league goals in a weak team. Also see Benteke for exactly this before his move to pool.

Bojan, once the new Messi and a produce of the Barca academy who before his knee injury was tearing up the league. Shaqiri, need I say more? You don't play for Bayern Munich if you are that shit or score some of the goals that he has.

Jamie Vardy, Ballon Dor shortlist my arse. Means fuck all. He had the season of his life (as did Leicester) doesn't make him the next maradonna. Mahrez, has the quality no doubt but is he streets ahead of the others you "embarrassingly" dismissed? Not in my eyes. He did fuck all yesterday other than throw a tantrum.

Mark Albrighton, the fastest player in the league great argument that.

 

[Stamford]

Just watched the highlights of the Man City/West Brom game as well, two goals gifted to City.

What goals were they gifted? Good attacking play imo

 

[Sweetsman]

Frankly, who knows what they talked about?

you may have said the id be surprised and if in the first part of your sentence but then the way you finished it id swear that you were sat there with them the whole time sharing their nachos or something.

Anyway, whatever mate. You seem to be angling with a fight with just about everyone at the moment so I think ill put you on the ignore list.

You can dress it up anyway you like to make yourself feel better. I'm only arguing people who are needlessly attacking the team and manager, probably because they weren't happy with his appointment for whatever reason. In some cases, it may be that they are still pining from that bloke from Borehamwood.

 

[Sweetsman]

The same Bony that many on here were clamouring for before he went to Man City. You know the guy who scored a lot of league goals in a weak team. Also see Benteke for exactly this before his move to pool.

Bojan, once the new Messi and a produce of the Barca academy who before his knee injury was tearing up the league. Shaqiri, need I say more? You don't play for Bayern Munich if you are that shit or score some of the goals that he has.

Jamie Vardy, Ballon Dor shortlist my arse. Means fuck all. He had the season of his life (as did Leicester) doesn't make him the next maradonna. Mahrez, has the quality no doubt but is he streets ahead of the others you "embarrassingly" dismissed? Not in my eyes. He did fuck all yesterday other than throw a tantrum.

Mark Albrighton, the fastest player in the league great argument that.

He didn't say Albrighton was the fastest player, he said he was in the fastest team. That's a major difference. So, who's laughing now?

 

[guiltyparty]

The same Bony that many on here were clamouring for before he went to Man City. You know the guy who scored a lot of league goals in a weak team. Also see Benteke for exactly this before his move to pool.

Bojan, once the new Messi and a produce of the Barca academy who before his knee injury was tearing up the league. Shaqiri, need I say more? You don't play for Bayern Munich if you are that shit or score some of the goals that he has.

Jamie Vardy, Ballon Dor shortlist my arse. Means fuck all. He had the season of his life (as did Leicester) doesn't make him the next maradonna. Mahrez, has the quality no doubt but is he streets ahead of the others you "embarrassingly" dismissed? Not in my eyes. He did fuck all yesterday other than throw a tantrum.

Mark Albrighton, the fastest player in the league great argument that.

I've never clamoured anywhere near Bony. *So* not right for our system and would stink the place out way worse than Janssen. I don't base any rational thought on what some people on a forum might say at any one time. Your last comment being a great reason why.

Bojan and Shaqiri sum up Stoke - have a worldy one in 10 against shit opposition. Jordi 'the best years of my life were spent playing for Wigan, Sunderland and Blackburn' Gomez was a product of Barca academy. So was Dos Santos. That's no argument against what people are actually producing consistently at professional level.

Vardy - the Ballon D'or means fuck all? Righto, be sure to tell Cristiano and Lionel. And I'm sure that makes Andros Townsend sleep better at night seeing as he'll never be on the longlist. Or get 4 in 8 for England, either.

Albrighton - that wasn't the only argument was it? You're just being silly now. He was the first Leicester player to have his contract extended, Ranieri declared him the epitome of Leicester's season and was a revelation - you may not like his style of play but god he'd add something different to us right now, however unfashionable his name. Not that I'm suggesting we buy him either.

But Leicester won the league, guys. Some of you still can't come to terms with it, it seems. You don't win the league being shit

 

[Sweetsman]

Frankly, who knows what they talked about?

you may have said the id be surprised and if in the first part of your sentence but then the way you finished it id swear that you were sat there with them the whole time sharing their nachos or something.

Anyway, whatever mate. You seem to be angling with a fight with just about everyone at the moment so I think ill put you on the ignore list.

Their nachos? They're not Mexican, and Scott's isn't a place known to serve nachos.
http://m.scotts-restaurant.com/menu/