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[Jay The Yid]

... I think you are forgetting that young players tend to improve as they get older....

True. But more often than not you can spot true talent or a player you think might have something about him.

Seen Kane a fair bit now and there really is nothing to suggest he will be a premier league player in fact he's looked poor.

We are a club who are looking to make the champions league regularly we are not the THFC from the dark days in the mid 90's. Don't think Kane has a chance of making at spurs to be honest.

Nothing against the lad in sure he will have a decent career just not at a club like spurs.

 

[Hoopspur]

I know it's overused and from elsehere, but...

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

Can we please stop talking about the posibility of Kane being anywhere near our first team.

That thought is very depressing.

He is not good enough now and probably never will be.

We need our 3/4th choice striker to be of a much higher calibre. It really is as simple as that.

Stop it!!!!

Is it really as simple as that? How many times have you seen him in our first team? And when I say "first team", I mean surrounded by the likes of Lennon, Bale, Modric, VdV, Kaboul, Walker, BAE etc etc etc. Not chucked in with a bunch of youngsters, in a European competition, who haven't played together because there is no reserve team.

When I've seen him put in amongst our first team players, only then will I be able to tell whether he's good enough for it. Look at Gerrard & Fat Frank, both are shit when playing with ordinary players in the national team. However, put them in their club teams where they're surrounded by real quality players, and they become two of the best goalscoring midfielders in world football. Coincidence? I very much doubt it.

This isn't me saying that Kane is good enough to be one of our strikers, this is me saying that I don't feel it's fair to say he's not good enough to be one of our strikers, when he hasn't even been given the chance to show what he can do when surrounded by quality.

 

[Breezer]

I don't get the doubters either. All I know is that he's playing for the England under 19's which means he's one of the best English prospects in the country.

Maybe because England are poo!

 

[Parkie]

not impressed with the latest info regarding strikers.....

to be honest when AVB was appointed I thought Defoe was gone immediately....just didn't think he would be fit into AVB's plans etc...

I always think that Defoe will turn into a 20+ a season striker ... I am used to disappointment!
However, maybe AVB sees something in him that others have not so far - maybe being first choice (or even only choice!) could give him the belief!
Either that or we are working on the principle that a club with NO strikers would be prepared to pay waaaaay over the odds for one so we need to keep a recognised striker on our books until we have signed the replacement(s). Here's hoping!

 

[Berglad]

akqayid ‏@akqayid
Oh god.... I'm buying alcohol pre going out Riesling? Oh go on then

uh-oh!

 

[dn013]

True. But more often than not you can spot true talent or a player you think might have something about him.

Seen Kane a fair bit now and there really is nothing to suggest he will be a premier league player in fact he's looked poor.

We are a club who are looking to make the champions league regularly we are not the THFC from the dark days in the mid 90's. Don't think Kane has a chance of making at spurs to be honest.

Nothing against the lad in sure he will have a decent career just not at a club like spurs.

I am guessing you just saw him in the Europa League and not for Millwall, because for Millwall he did brilliantly, scoring and assisting in vital goals that kept them in the Championship.

He has performed excellently for an 18 year old, he may not be replicating Rooney's early successes, but that doesn't mean that he will never cut it at Spurs. In fact, many footballers bloom far later than Rooney came of age - Drogba for example.

 

[arthurgrimsdell]

Here's another way to look at it. Adebayor did well for us last season BUT his first touch is as good as that provided by the cushion on a snooker table at The Crucible, his shooting is about as strong as that from Heather Mills' left leg, and he misses far too many simple chances. Not only that, but when he's missed that simple chance, he grins his head off like a husband who has farted in Tesco & walked away from his wife & left the smell behind.

Like I said, he did well for us last season, but to come in & end up as the clubs highest earner, he simply must be the clubs best player. He wouldn't be!!. And for the wage he demands, I think it's only fair to expect him to be able to control a football & hit a half decent shot? He's a fecking great wimp aswell. 6ft 3", probably at least 14 stone, but can't even head a decent ball..

With respect I think you are contradicting yourself. Apparently, he did well last season, but can't control a football?
Also, the point at issue is surely whether he will or will not be a worthwhile part of whatever formation he is involved in, and as good as we can realistically hope to get, rather than what his salary is, which I think we can trust Levy to limit to what is affordable, and whether he smiles a lot. We might be able to get better, if so, all well and good, but, on last season's form getting him would be, in my view, far from a disaster.
You can also, currently, add VDV to the list of those who could play in a 433.
But it's all about opinions.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

True. But more often than not you can spot true talent or a player you think might have something about him.

Seen Kane a fair bit now and there really is nothing to suggest he will be a premier league player in fact he's looked poor.

We are a club who are looking to make the champions league regularly we are not the THFC from the dark days in the mid 90's. Don't think Kane has a chance of making at spurs to be honest.

Nothing against the lad in sure he will have a decent career just not at a club like spurs.

Well no surprise that I disagree with you again .. The coaches who work with him think VERY highly of him. So without wanting to come across as a patronising twat, I think people are more likely to pay attention to the opinion of the people that work with, and train these players on a daily basis. Especially when one of those people working with him is a PL winning captain who has played & trained with strikers of Alan Shearer's ability. Fair comment?

 

[DaveTheYido]

If Kane does chokeslam on defenders.
Then he is clean through on goal.

 

[Parkie]

... I think you are forgetting that young players tend to improve as they get older....

And others never go on to fulfil their initial potential.

Having said that, playing regularly in a top league, alongside top players is probably the best way to improve.

 

[thejames]

I reckon if we didn't own Harry Kane, but were linked with him, folks would be over the moon to be going after the best young talents out there.

He'd probably be the "next Alan Shearer".

I also don't want to chuck a load of money at building a title-challenging team and then rely on someone like Kane to get us goals, but I'll bow down to THFC's expertise. Plus, as has been said, we're really only talking about 1 position. Furthermore, there's so much time left in this window, I see us going for another - like a Llorente, Daimio, or someone versatile like Remy.

Bottom line: Chill. We're already well ahead of ourselves - don't get greedy.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

With respect I think you are contradicting yourself. Apparently, he did well last season, but can't control a football?
Also, the point at issue is surely whether he will or will not be a worthwhile part of whatever formation he is involved in, and as good as we can realistically hope to get, rather than what his salary is, which I think we can trust Levy to limit to what is affordable, and whether he smiles a lot. We might be able to get better, if so, all well and good, but, on last season's form getting him would be, in my view, far from a disaster.
You can also, currently, add VDV to the list of those who could play in a 433.
But it's all about opinions.

Never once said it'd be a disaster, not even close to it.. As for the bold part, there's no contradiction. To put it simply, if I was writing his end of term report, I'd say something along the lines of "could do better".... He DID do well for us, but those 17 PL goals could easily have been at least 25 if he never missed so many sitters, or attacked the odd cross. The 12 assists helped his cause somewhat BUT I think it's far from unreasonable to expect your main striker to be clinical infront of goal. Yeah he had 3 or 4 wrongly ruled out for offside, but those ruled out goals had sweet fa to do with the chances he missed.

Oh and he's offside more than Defoe, and I didn't even think that was humanly possible..

Finally, I think it's worth taking into consideration that last season was his second most prolific EVER in the PL. 8 seasons of PL football, and in 3 of those seasons he's not even made double figures. I just think it's a heck of a risk putting all of our eggs in an Adebayor shaped basket.

 

[edson]

I reckon if we didn't own Harry Kane, but were linked with him, folks would be over the moon to be going after the best young talents out there.

He'd probably be the "next Alan Shearer".

I also don't want to chuck a load of money at building a title-challenging team and then rely on someone like Kane to get us goals, but I'll bow down to THFC's expertise. Plus, as has been said, we're really only talking about 1 position. Furthermore, there's so much time left in this window, I see us going for another - like a Llorente, Daimio, or someone versatile like Remy.

Bottom line: Chill. We're already well ahead of ourselves - don't get greedy.

If he does make it he will be more like a Teddy Sheringham type of player,he has a good touch and passing ability but he is not the fastest and will never be as good in the air as Teddy was.For the record I am not saying Kane is the next Teddy Sheringham I am just saying he is that type of player.

 

[thejames]

Just to add, in a recent interview with TS, he kept banging on about the value of repeated loans to (specifically) the Championship, or rather, the lack of value. Wouldn't surprise me if, after a preseason with us and pending other activity, we'll whore Kane out to a lower Prem side - ala Caulker.

 

[spud]

I think I will trust AVB and Tim's assessment of Kane over a bunch of keyboard jockeys who don't know fuck all.

Not sure about that. Everybody knows that using FM is the best way to judge a player.

 

[Parkie]

Just to add, in a recent interview with TS, he kept banging on about the value of repeated loans to (specifically) the Championship, or rather, the lack of value. Wouldn't surprise me if, after a preseason with us and pending other activity, we'll whore Kane out to a lower Prem side - ala Caulker.

I know there is a limit to the number of players you can have on loan, but is there one to the number you can loan out? Rather than lower leagues, why don't we loan our prospects out to other Prem teams and then screw up their team when they play us because the players are ineligible?

 

[spud]

I personally think akaqayid is playing a dangerous game. Yes, he may have a contact, and be getting some info, but he is showing off a bit too much, and building up everyone's hopes that we will getting all our targets, and that everything will be perfect. The first time that one of the transfers collapses, even if his info at the time was good, he is going to kop a lot of stick.

At which point he'll suddenly disappear from Twatter and re-appear on here.

 

[fazza]

Transfer ITK @ITK_TRANSFER

Stephen Pienaar is having a medical at Everton tonight #efc #thfc

 

[Parkie]

Transfer ITK @ITK_TRANSFER

Stephen Pienaar is having a medical at Everton tonight #efc #thfc

Wasn't it AVB that tried to sign him at Chelsea?
I would've thought a player like Pienaar would want to wait and see how he might fit in - mind you, maybe he already knows he wouldn't.